All About T-Score

[vlim]

Huh ... More then 300 t score u mean, vk2010? Tts cool :imcool: .. Will dream on hahaaaa

[verykiasu2010]

vlim:

Huh ... More then 300 t score u mean, vk2010? Tts cool :imcool: .. Will dream on hahaaaa

you actually don't need to work extra hard to achieve that. just wish everyone else do badly, very badly, and your t-score will be higher

t-score = transformed score. it is a ranking measurement, not an indication of how many marks you scored

I used to mistakenly think that max is 300; but if you play with the formula, there is no max, and in extreme cases, it can be more than 10 or 20 thousand for t-score...but given the cohort size and the normal distribution characteristics of any cohort's performance, it hardly reaches above 295

my DS used to say he was aiming for 303....aim only haha

[vlim]

verykiasu2010:

vlim:

Huh ... More then 300 t score u mean, vk2010? Tts cool :imcool: .. Will dream on hahaaaa

I used to mistakenly think that max is 300; but if you play with the formula, there is no max, and in extreme cases, it can be more than 10 or 20 thousand for t-score...but given the cohort size and the normal distribution characteristics of any cohort's performance, it hardly reaches above 295

my DS used to say he was aiming for 303....aim only haha

Ya if got such abnormal Case which mean very difficult papers .... Many parents would make noise Liao :rant: .. I think moe would not allow tt to happen

[Paddy Field]

Hi all,


I m just curious on the grading for higher MT. All I know is Distinction, Merit or Pass. But do they based solely on raw scores? If so, what is the mark range for D, M and P?

Sorry … But I m super blur on this.

[vlim]

Paddy Field:

Hi all,


I m just curious on the grading for higher MT. All I know is Distinction, Merit or Pass. But do they based solely on raw scores? If so, what is the mark range for D, M and P?

Sorry .. But I m super blur on this.

Good question paddy field as I also not sure. I only know to get distinction one must get 80 and above...
Emmm ... I think since it is not going to add on to the total score... So logically no need to convert raw score to t score .. Which serve no purpose ..

[Paddy Field]

vlim:

Paddy Field:

Hi all,


I m just curious on the grading for higher MT. All I know is Distinction, Merit or Pass. But do they based solely on raw scores? If so, what is the mark range for D, M and P?

Sorry .. But I m super blur on this.

Good question paddy field as I also not sure. I only know to get distinction one must get 80 and above...
Emmm ... I think since it is not going to add on to the total score... So logically no need to convert raw score to t score .. Which serve no purpose ..

I thought it was 80 all the while to get distinction. But DS's Chinese teacher told the class 85. I was totally confused. Anyone else can confirm?

[matadorepy]

verykiasu2010:

coolit:

I see thanks verykiasu2010, I did not know this information was so widely available.

I am much clearer about this after reading the info you have given.

credit must be given to the principal of NUSH - he is the one who devised the t-score formula, so i heard

Yep, Dr Hang Kin Boo, current Principal of NUSH was the one that proposed to MOE years back. He was a statisician with a Maths Phd. That's why he knows that student who can scored well in MT (chinese, Tamils, Malay) etc aways has the edge in achieving higher T-score than his chinese, tamil or malay compatroits. That's why you cannot compare T-score at face-value meaning you cannot compare a chinese vs malay vs tamil PSLE candidates.
You will always have a top chinese, a top indian or top malay candidate.

The Indian and Malay pool of candidates is much much smaller than those taking Chinese as mother tongue. The SD and the mean of Malay and Indian is different from Chinese. If you have a year of very tough Malay or Indian paper and a generally easy Chinese MT paper, the top student will be from the Malay or the Indian PSLE candidates , all other things being equal.

Many folks here probably did;nt know about this.

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[verykiasu2010]

matadorepy:

verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"coolit\"]I see thanks verykiasu2010, I did not know this information was so widely available.

I am much clearer about this after reading the info you have given.

credit must be given to the principal of NUSH - he is the one who devised the t-score formula, so i heard

Yep, Dr Hang Kin Boo, current Principal of NUSH was the one that proposed to MOE years back. He was a statisician with a Maths Phd. That's why he knows that student who can scored well in MT (chinese, Tamils, Malay) etc aways has the edge in achieving higher T-score than his chinese, tamil or malay compatroits. That's why you cannot compare T-score at face-value meaning you cannot compare a chinese vs malay vs tamil PSLE candidates.
You will always have a top chinese, a top indian or top malay candidate.

The Indian and Malay pool of candidates is much much smaller than those taking Chinese as mother tongue. The SD and the mean of Malay and Indian is different from Chinese. If you have a year of very tough Malay or Indian paper and a generally easy Chinese MT paper, the top student will be from the Malay or the Indian PSLE candidates , all other things being equal.

Many folks here probably did;nt know about this. [/quote]thanks for the insightful info on impact of MT papers on the t-score.

however, the admission to sec 1 is based on t-score, hence it may some time be unknowingly affected by the difficulty differential between the different MT.
hence it is an idea worth considering to remove MT from the t-score if it helps to compare performance of different racial candidates ...... but anything racial is taboo ..... :censored: :censored: :censored:

[vlim]

verykiasu2010:

matadorepy:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
credit must be given to the principal of NUSH - he is the one who devised the t-score formula, so i heard

Yep, Dr Hang Kin Boo, current Principal of NUSH was the one that proposed to MOE years back. He was a statisician with a Maths Phd. That's why he knows that student who can scored well in MT (chinese, Tamils, Malay) etc aways has the edge in achieving higher T-score than his chinese, tamil or malay compatroits. That's why you cannot compare T-score at face-value meaning you cannot compare a chinese vs malay vs tamil PSLE candidates.
You will always have a top chinese, a top indian or top malay candidate.

The Indian and Malay pool of candidates is much much smaller than those taking Chinese as mother tongue. The SD and the mean of Malay and Indian is different from Chinese. If you have a year of very tough Malay or Indian paper and a generally easy Chinese MT paper, the top student will be from the Malay or the Indian PSLE candidates , all other things being equal.

Many folks here probably did;nt know about this.

thanks for the insightful info on impact of MT papers on the t-score.

however, the admission to sec 1 is based on t-score, hence it may some time be unknowingly affected by the difficulty differential between the different MT.
hence it is an idea worth considering to remove MT from the t-score if it helps to compare performance of different racial candidates ...... but anything racial is taboo ..... :censored: :censored: :censored:[/quote]aiyo vk2010...u forgotten about the debate about lower the weightage of MT... later those no good in maths or science but v good in MT will come after you :siam: ...