we must welcome talent from abroad to create and ...........
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Oppsgal:
not enough nurses mean not enough people who wanted to study for it. it does not matter what you do do with job scope / salary etcnot enough headcount then should improve the job scope, job salary and expectation of employees.
If give more salary work only 5 hours a day, no need so many qualification, maybe got people to work. Job scope also reduce, people might even rush to fight for the job
for some jobs, qualification is a must, and (minimum already) scope cannot be reduced.
an electrician has to be licenced and passed exam, scope cannot be reduced, else you may get whole building on short circuit if you don't have qualified electrician to do it
doctor's qualification has no short cut
engineer's qualification has no short cut
last time they don't need engineer to sign off the construction drawing and we had hotel new world collapsed. now the scope must include engineer's taking personal responsibility for signing off on the building plan
so simple to just say salary & scope and 5 day week
posted on this forum alone countless times - virtually no Singaporean wants to work as accounts executive / accounts assistant / accountant in Jurong. 5 day week, company transport provided, company holiday chalet program, share options, bla bla bla. Jurong is too ulu for any sane Singaporean to work -
raysusan:
Tharman : we must welcome talent from abroad to create and sustain good jobs
[quote]Today newspaper
He added: “We must tread a balanced
path in our manpower policies. Our
economy must remain welcoming to both
businesses and talent from abroad, so as
to create and sustain good jobs … We will
at the same time seek to keep the overall
share of foreigners in the workforce at no
higher than one-third over the long term.”
On older workers, Mr Tharman noted
that the Retirement and Re-employment Act
will come into effect in January next year.
“We will also assist companies to recruit,
retain and re-employ older workers, with
outreach and incentives to redesign jobs and
work arrangements to suit the needs and
preferences of an older workforce.”
what is your view on this?[/quote]Don't understand why we keep beating this dead horse.
Singapore based companies will hire Singaporeans if there are enough Singaporeans to be hired at the right skills level and at the right cost level that will enable us to be competitive globally. Where there are new industries for which there are fewer Singaporeans with the requisite skills set, there will necessarily be a start-up stage where foreigners will need to be recruited.
It's a really simple equation.
There is also a very simple solution/outcome to promoting \"Singaporeans first\" in jobs.
Close the borders, accept slower growth, accept that some industries will pass us by, accept that some of our best and brightest (that you spend so much angst to educate in our school system) will have to leave our country to find the right type of employment. Accept gradual decay of our economic competitiveness.
Very simple. -
3Boys:
Don't understand why we keep beating this dead horse.raysusan:
Tharman : we must welcome talent from abroad to create and sustain good jobs
[quote]Today newspaper
He added: “We must tread a balanced
path in our manpower policies. Our
economy must remain welcoming to both
businesses and talent from abroad, so as
to create and sustain good jobs … We will
at the same time seek to keep the overall
share of foreigners in the workforce at no
higher than one-third over the long term.”
On older workers, Mr Tharman noted
that the Retirement and Re-employment Act
will come into effect in January next year.
“We will also assist companies to recruit,
retain and re-employ older workers, with
outreach and incentives to redesign jobs and
work arrangements to suit the needs and
preferences of an older workforce.”
what is your view on this?
[/quote]Raysusan, is this a recent one by Tharman?
3Boys, I think the reason why we keep beating this dead horse is because we are actually talking about people who are still alive and struggling to remain so. When people still hubs on this, it shows the argument isn't convincing them. -
Concern2, that’s quite true. If the topic is always the same, that means people are still not convinced. My Myanmar colleague who is a PR told me that it was super easy to get PR. Just work for 2 years in Singapore and you are granted PR regardless of your work scope, your position, your contribution, your whatever. I wished he would wipe off that smug look. I know he is very pleased with the government here.
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3Boys:
Oh Really?
Singapore based companies will hire Singaporeans if there are enough Singaporeans to be hired at the right skills level and at the right cost level that will enable us to be competitive globally. Where there are new industries for which there are fewer Singaporeans with the requisite skills set, there will necessarily be a start-up stage where foreigners will need to be recruited.
It's a really simple equation.
Very simple.
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3436570EDMW:
Kenneth Lim,73, charged for making false statement under empolyment act and faces 60 charges of phantom worker scam. -- ST PHOTO: AZIZ HUSSIN
Construction firm boss Kenneth Lim Ong Long padded his list of local employees with bogus workers so as to be eligible to recruit more foreigners. The 73-year-old would then collect $6,000 for each of the 30 Chinese nationals he hired last year.
Sauce: http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_722091.html -
peapot:
Concern2, that's quite true. If the topic is always the same, that means people are still not convinced. My Myanmar colleague who is a PR told me that it was super easy to get PR. Just work for 2 years in Singapore and you are granted PR regardless of your work scope, your position, your contribution, your whatever. I wished he would wipe off that smug look. I know he is very pleased with the government here.
you don't need two years to get PR in US, Canada, OZ ...... in fact for US, whole family gets citizenship within 24 months -
I usually get irritated and angry silently whenever i heard malaysian (not a PR yet) gets an admin assistant job in SGP. For instance admin assistant to a dental clinic. Come on, i don’t believe no singaporean aunty or SAHM (wanting part time) to fill in this position.
Sometime this company purposely get a foreigner is because no CPF and plus the salary is lower. So let’s be realistic, who does not want to pay low salary as an employer. No need to threaten singaporean about losing competitiveness if there is no foreign talent.
To me having a foreigner to fill in as admin assistant is really so much about foreign "talent".
Today, the use of foreign talent is too loosely interpreted. If it is truly talent, then of course i will be obliging and accept it. But a superficial "talent", of which i cannot accept. -
3Boys:
the dead can be resurrected anytime
Don't understand why we keep beating this dead horse. -
laughingcat:
it is just a wordI usually get irritated and angry silently whenever i heard malaysian (not a PR yet) gets an admin assistant job in SGP. For instance admin assistant to a dental clinic. Come on, i don't believe no singaporean aunty or SAHM (wanting part time) to fill in this position.
Sometime this company purposely get a foreigner is because no CPF and plus the salary is lower. So let's be realistic, who does not want to pay low salary as an employer. No need to threaten singaporean about losing competitiveness if there is no foreign talent.
To me having a foreigner to fill in as admin assistant is really so much about foreign \"talent\".
Today, the use of foreign talent is too loosely interpreted. If it is truly talent, then of course i will be obliging and accept it. But a superficial \"talent\", of which i cannot accept.
it is just another foreign worker by any other terminology.....be it CEO or bus 'captain' or janitor (aka Director of Toilet Health), etc etc -
verykiasu2010:
I don't think so. Some years ago, my friend had to marry her American boyfriend to get a green card (PR status). She recently became a citizen.peapot:
Concern2, that's quite true. If the topic is always the same, that means people are still not convinced. My Myanmar colleague who is a PR told me that it was super easy to get PR. Just work for 2 years in Singapore and you are granted PR regardless of your work scope, your position, your contribution, your whatever. I wished he would wipe off that smug look. I know he is very pleased with the government here.
you don't need two years to get PR in US, Canada, OZ ...... in fact for US, whole family gets citizenship within 24 months
According to the Internet, citizenship will only be granted if the family has lived in the US for five years. If married to a US citizen, the time period will be shortened to three years.
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