2011 PSLE Discussions and Strategy
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ngbrdad:
Nope, normal classrooms mostly.vlim:
Aiyo. Weather v hot hor ..... Hope the markers are in the good mood ...
:xedfingers:
Should be using air coned rooms right ? -
MummySTay:
Oh i see. Thanx for sharing the info.!
Was HOD in school many moons ago.
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Been trying to find from the web the average mean for the eng, chinese, math & science & their SDs for year 2010 and 2009 but to no avail. Are they ever disclosed? Anyone knows?
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Verysuperkiasu:
Been trying to find from the web the average mean for the eng, chinese, math & science & their SDs for year 2010 and 2009 but to no avail. Are they ever disclosed? Anyone knows?
I hazard to guess these are as follows:
EL mean = 77, SD = 9
CL mean = 72, SD = 12
MA mean = 61, SD = 17
SC mean = 66, SD = 14
These are the rounded up numbers for NYPS mainstream (excl GEP) for 2010 prelim and I know a number of people whose prelim t-scores are similar to actual PSLE t-score, +/- very little, and these people has been very consistent over the years, at least about 15 of them -
verykiasu2010:
Verysuperkiasu:
Been trying to find from the web the average mean for the eng, chinese, math & science & their SDs for year 2010 and 2009 but to no avail. Are they ever disclosed? Anyone knows?
I hazard to guess these are as follows:
EL mean = 77, SD = 9
CL mean = 72, SD = 12
MA mean = 61, SD = 17
SC mean = 66, SD = 14
These are the rounded up numbers for NYPS mainstream (excl GEP) for 2010 prelim and I know a number of people whose prelim t-scores are similar to actual PSLE t-score, +/- very little, and these people has been very consistent over the years, at least about 15 of them
Do you happen to have the numbers for 2011 prelim ? -
verykiasu2010:
So this year's figure should be close to these as well ?Verysuperkiasu:
Been trying to find from the web the average mean for the eng, chinese, math & science & their SDs for year 2010 and 2009 but to no avail. Are they ever disclosed? Anyone knows?
I hazard to guess these are as follows:
EL mean = 77, SD = 9
CL mean = 72, SD = 12
MA mean = 61, SD = 17
SC mean = 66, SD = 14
These are the rounded up numbers for NYPS mainstream (excl GEP) for 2010 prelim and I know a number of people whose prelim t-scores are similar to actual PSLE t-score, +/- very little, and these people has been very consistent over the years, at least about 15 of them
But how can the mean and SD at NYPS be the same as the national average ? -
dagong99:
verykiasu2010:
[quote=\"Verysuperkiasu\"]Been trying to find from the web the average mean for the eng, chinese, math & science & their SDs for year 2010 and 2009 but to no avail. Are they ever disclosed? Anyone knows?
I hazard to guess these are as follows:
EL mean = 77, SD = 9
CL mean = 72, SD = 12
MA mean = 61, SD = 17
SC mean = 66, SD = 14
These are the rounded up numbers for NYPS mainstream (excl GEP) for 2010 prelim and I know a number of people whose prelim t-scores are similar to actual PSLE t-score, +/- very little, and these people has been very consistent over the years, at least about 15 of them
Do you happen to have the numbers for 2011 prelim ?[/quote]sorry no, but i think it is a good guesstimate for any years ...... the fluctuation could be just +/- very few marks, based on observation over the years -
This is the figures supplied by Crazydad on the T score thread for 2009.
CL: Mean = 78, StdDev = 10
EL: Mean = 73, StdDev = 11
Math : Mean = 63, StdDev = 9
Sci : Mean = 67, StdDev = 12
He based it on the 2007 figures with similar style to 2009 ie difficult math, easy Chines and tricky Science. Sound familiar right ?
But the SD for math is way too low, and may end up giving a very false t score for math. -
I hazard to guess these are as follows:
EL mean = 77, SD = 9
CL mean = 72, SD = 12
MA mean = 61, SD = 17
SC mean = 66, SD = 14
These are the rounded up numbers for NYPS mainstream (excl GEP) for 2010 prelim and I know a number of people whose prelim t-scores are similar to actual PSLE t-score, +/- very little, and these people has been very consistent over the years, at least about 15 of them[/quote]
Do you happen to have the numbers for 2011 prelim ?[/quote]
sorry no, but i think it is a good guesstimate for any years ā¦ the fluctuation could be just +/- very few marks, based on observation over the years[/quote]
EL = 50 + 10 (100-77)/9 = 76
CL = 50 + 10 (100-72)/12 = 73
MA = 50 + 10 (100-61)/17 = 73
SC = 50 + 10 (100-66)/14 = 74
T-Score = 296
I used that to compute & got 296 for max score for 2011, is it too high ? seems out of reach, did I compute wrongly ā¦ -
verykiasu2010:
from a statistical viewpoint, it is very unlikely that the T score for a single school matches the T score for the national level. Nanyang is also a school famed for giving out tough questions, tougher than the national level. If there is a such a case where the T score of a student at Nanyang matches the PSLE T score, it should not be construed as a correlation of the school's standard matching that of the national standard, rather, there was a change in the student's ability for the prelims and the PSLE, due to specific preparation work.
sorry no, but i think it is a good guesstimate for any years ...... the fluctuation could be just +/- very few marks, based on observation over the years
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