All the simply cant be bother pedestrians! terrible.........

[verykiasu2010]

sall:

Maybe shouldn't use the term 'culture'. But a lot of PRC behave this way. A lot thought that shouting and pushing and behaving aggressively will get them what they want. So the young kids watch and will follow when they grow up. When they think there's a chance to demand compensation, then they will do anything to get it, feigning more serious injuries or falsely accusing others.

Of cos, there are still some morally upright ones around.

in their overcrowded environment, the loudest got heard first

[tamarind]

I don’t even know whether we should generalize and say that all mainland Chinese people are like that. Perhaps the people in Guangzhou are worst ?


China is a vast and diverse country. When I was working in Wuhan, I actually encountered people who gave up their seats to me on buses without me asking, probably because they thought that I looked very tired.

In June this year I just bought my kids to Lijiang, Yunnan, and we did not encounter any problems there, probably because we stayed at 5 star hotels and got the best service. However, after reading about this incident, I don’t think that I will ever bring them to China again. When they grow up I will let them go to China on their own if they want to. I have been to more than 15 cities in China, and there is only one place I want to go back to on my own, which is Shangri-la. After that I probably will not go back to China again.

[BeContented]

tamarind:

I don't think there is anything in the chinese culture that says you should not help people. Recently there was a case in china when someone helped an elderly who fell down. The elderly's family actually sued the person who helped, falsely accused him of causing the elderly to fall down. The family won the case and the kind person was fined a lot of money. Ever since this case, there were a few other cases of 见死不救. The problem is with their judicial system and government. We cannot make a such general statement of the chinese culture.

Cannot just push to the judicial system and govt.
In the first place, the elderly & the family is seriously sick in the mind to even try to accuse the kind person. 忘恩负义。

For me, I will not want to go China & definitely will not bring my kids along.

[sleepy]

tamarind:

after reading about this incident, I don't think that I will ever bring them to China again.

BeContented:

For me, I will not want to go China & definitely will not bring my kids along.

No need to go China. Singapore is already a mini China with the influx of immigrants :nailbite:

[BeContented]

sleepy:

tamarind:

after reading about this incident, I don't think that I will ever bring them to China again.

BeContented:

For me, I will not want to go China & definitely will not bring my kids along.

No need to go China. Singapore is already a mini China with the influx of immigrants :nailbite:

So true. My child's class has ~40%

[tamarind]

I heard there are one million people from mainland China living in Singapore now.


I hope that our judicial system is fair enough to know what is right and wrong. I suspect that the judges in China are so corrupt, the judge may have been bribed by the family of the elderly so that they could win the case. When people lose faith in the judicial system, then all moral values are gone.

[LOLMum]

and yet these people (including taiwanese) like to call us, singaporeans, 没文化，没知识，没函养,没见识 etc. just because we dont know much about chinese history and dont speak mandarin as well as them.

[BeContented]

LOLMum:

and yet these people (including taiwanese) like to call us, singaporeans, 没文化，没知识，没函养,没见识 etc. just because we dont know much about chinese history and dont speak mandarin as well as them.

没文化，没知识, 没见识 - IMO, perhaps to some extent we are weaker as a general but that does not make us 没函养.

Back to travelling to China, in my younger days, Great Wall of China is one place that I had set my mind to visit before I die.....but now, even this one and only place is struck off liao.

[verykiasu2010]

in China, they say :


Singaporean in China (mostly Chinese bizmen) : 无知
Hong Konger in China : 无情
Taiwanese in China : 无耻

Their own local Chinese : 没良心,杀人放火,六亲不认,伤天害里,违法也合法…

[cnimed]

I would like to go to China again and I will bring my children along when they are older. It’s a complex place, no doubt about it. One should be watchful, or get a trusted guide, but I disagree that this incident shows it to be a terrible place. If it’s so terrible, there will not be an uproar in the first place. Rather the incident would have been treated as commonplace and no one would bother to report it. I believe there is societal pressure from poverty and the law is weak and fickle. As an outsider, I will not judge the 18 people.


I read the news article to my children. I highlighted what the victim’s mother said - that she refused to be disappointed by society. That is very commendable.