Looking for better 2nd & 3rd tier Secondary Schools
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leow:
It is important besides looking at the plain cutoff point, we need to look at the Secondary school's banding. If a Secondary school with a lower PSLE cutoff point, then end up having the banding better than another school who had stronger PSLE corhort, it shows that the school is able to groom the children of a certain PSLE caliber to attain a higher level than another comparable school of similar or better PSLE quality.
For eg, the last i checked, Tanjong Katong Sec school vs Chung Cheng, I think the cutoff for chung cheng was higher, but if I'm not wrong, tanjong katong secondary school's banding (band 2) was better than Chung Cheng (band 3). Such statistics is very telling on what is the quality and how the secondary school groom the students.
Do we need to track back to the cut-off 4 years ago and look at it together with this year's banding? -
yes, that’s a good point, to check 4 yrs ago’s PSLE COP and the resulting banding 4 yrs later. Because the banding is just the results of the school per se and not relative to other schools or PSLE results. Another indicator is the school’s MOE value added awards. But this does not tell us how much is the value add though, i believe, only the numbers of times / yrs the school gets the value add award.
If anybody knows of a measurement of the quality of value add, especially if compiled by MOE, pls share. -
May I ask if a school is Band 1, does that mean on the average the express stream students in the school scored <11 for their L1B5? So for 6 subjects, each subject is not more than A2? Thank you.
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leow:
Where will we be able to check the PSLE COP 4 years ago? What we are given is S1 posting booklet for this year, so it is based on last year's COP only. Wonder if anyone really bother to keep booklet 4 years agoyes, that's a good point, to check 4 yrs ago's PSLE COP and the resulting banding 4 yrs later. Because the banding is just the results of the school per se and not relative to other schools or PSLE results. Another indicator is the school's MOE value added awards. But this does not tell us how much is the value add though, i believe, only the numbers of times / yrs the school gets the value add award.
If anybody knows of a measurement of the quality of value add, especially if compiled by MOE, pls share.
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Pen88n:
Hm, my dd1 is in sec 3 this year , so the booklet that she received was 4 years ago ? I think I still have it somewhere in my storeroom
Where will we be able to check the PSLE COP 4 years ago? What we are given is S1 posting booklet for this year, so it is based on last year's COP only. Wonder if anyone really bother to keep booklet 4 years agoleow:
yes, that's a good point, to check 4 yrs ago's PSLE COP and the resulting banding 4 yrs later. Because the banding is just the results of the school per se and not relative to other schools or PSLE results. Another indicator is the school's MOE value added awards. But this does not tell us how much is the value add though, i believe, only the numbers of times / yrs the school gets the value add award.
If anybody knows of a measurement of the quality of value add, especially if compiled by MOE, pls share.
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znzyzyzx:
No, it is 3 years ago.
Where will we be able to check the PSLE COP 4 years ago? What we are given is S1 posting booklet for this year, so it is based on last year's COP only. Wonder if anyone really bother to keep booklet 4 years agoPen88n:
[quote=\"leow\"]yes, that's a good point, to check 4 yrs ago's PSLE COP and the resulting banding 4 yrs later. Because the banding is just the results of the school per se and not relative to other schools or PSLE results. Another indicator is the school's MOE value added awards. But this does not tell us how much is the value add though, i believe, only the numbers of times / yrs the school gets the value add award.
If anybody knows of a measurement of the quality of value add, especially if compiled by MOE, pls share.
Hm, my dd1 is in sec 3 this year , so the booklet that she received was 4 years ago ? I think I still have it somewhere in my storeroom[/quote]
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znzyzyzx:
No, it is 3 years ago.
Where will we be able to check the PSLE COP 4 years ago? What we are given is S1 posting booklet for this year, so it is based on last year's COP only. Wonder if anyone really bother to keep booklet 4 years agoPen88n:
[quote=\"leow\"]yes, that's a good point, to check 4 yrs ago's PSLE COP and the resulting banding 4 yrs later. Because the banding is just the results of the school per se and not relative to other schools or PSLE results. Another indicator is the school's MOE value added awards. But this does not tell us how much is the value add though, i believe, only the numbers of times / yrs the school gets the value add award.
If anybody knows of a measurement of the quality of value add, especially if compiled by MOE, pls share.
Hm, my dd1 is in sec 3 this year , so the booklet that she received was 4 years ago ? I think I still have it somewhere in my storeroom[/quote]Numbers doesn't add up 
Ok, this years booklet has banding which is based on last year 2010 \"O\" level results. If the kid is Sec 4 and taking \"O\" Level in 2010, he will be in the P6 batch batch in 2006, and his PSLE COP will be published in the 2007 S1 posting booklet (for admission to sec sch in 2008). So, I've worked out which booklet, but not sure if anyone has that \"antique\" (or should I say outdated?) booklet now :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: -
we are all the kiasu parents right, if we look hard enough sure can find !
Nevertheless, somebody already compiled the last 3 yrs COP. u can see the trend from here even if not exactly 4yrs ago.
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/content/3-year-official-psle-cop-2009-2011-secondary-1-intake
Also if we have shorlisted a few schools, can always ask the school. To do the final assessment on which school to go. -
leow:
Sorry, I am more on the left.we are all the kiasu parents right, if we look hard enough sure can find !
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Can I clarify about the ‘banding’ ?
Is this Secondary school banding based on O levels results ?
I checked the MOE School Information System but I can’t find this banding for the schools. Only the COPs (2008/2009/2010) and MOE Awards are listed.
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