GEP 2011 - Screening & Selection

[Snow Crystal]

LegoMan:

Yes, that's my thoughts exactly. and not just that, all the competitions/CCAs will be taken up by the shiniest students, so those \"average\" GEPers might miss out, which might rob them of valuable experience.
There might be \"invisible\" pressure to keep up too, will too many bright kids in the class.

I guess if one decides to go to such competitive GE centre, got to be prepared to be mediocre or give up some things. Eg, in his/her original primary school, may be the one marked out to be head prefect. But in the new school, can't even get a normal prefect position. Or, may be receiving prizes for top 3 for p1-3, but in new school for next 3 years, may be average kid on the block or worse, bottom few in GE class. But that's facing reality at a young age - that there's always someone better than you out there :nailbite: jiayou to all!

[8228]

phtthp:

for NYPS,

heard that - each year, usually about 30 to 40 of their own pupils grow up from (p1-p3) get into GEP. This year how many - is it 34 ?

assume that 40 kids get in this year, and the school opens up 4 new classes, with each class having 25 kids max, means Total new intake = 100.

assume all 40 in-house kids stay put (ie. did not transfer out to other centre), means left only about approximately ... 60 vacancies, for outsider requests to transfer in.

also notice that China students (foreign talent) tend to choose NYPS as their number 1, first choice school. Somehow, they're attracted to NYPS a lot. Once come in at P4, all will be doing Higher Chinese.

I think 34 is the right number. 2 years ago, there were more than 40. NYPS may take in more than 100. My ds's class has 26 students.

I am quite puzzled that many GEP students have to stay back many days in the school as my ds never stayed back for any GEP curriculum or projects for the past two years. :?

[LegoMan]

8228:

I think 34 is the right number. 2 years ago, there were more than 40. NYPS may take in more than 100. My ds's class has 26 students.

I am quite puzzled that many GEP students have to stay back many days in the school as my ds never stayed back for any GEP curriculum or projects for the past two years. :?

Hi 8228, how is your DS coping ?
is there a lot of competition ?
Is it hard to be picked as one of those involved in the CCAs and activities like prefects, maths olympaid, etc ?

Thanks

[jtoh]

Snow Crystal:

LegoMan:

Yes, that's my thoughts exactly. and not just that, all the competitions/CCAs will be taken up by the shiniest students, so those \"average\" GEPers might miss out, which might rob them of valuable experience.
There might be \"invisible\" pressure to keep up too, will too many bright kids in the class.

I guess if one decides to go to such competitive GE centre, got to be prepared to be mediocre or give up some things. Eg, in his/her original primary school, may be the one marked out to be head prefect. But in the new school, can't even get a normal prefect position. Or, may be receiving prizes for top 3 for p1-3, but in new school for next 3 years, may be average kid on the block or worse, bottom few in GE class. But that's facing reality at a young age - that there's always someone better than you out there :nailbite: jiayou to all!

I don't think NYPS is a better GE centre than any of the others. What it has is a rich school history and an affiliation to NYGH. If these things don't matter to you, then you might want to consider another GE centre with a cosier environment, where classes aren't filled to the hilt.

As for realizing that there are people better than you, I feel it's healthy to do so. In fact, you'll see this happening at all the GE centres. Many of the kids were top students in their primary schools and obviously not everyone GEP kid can be top in the new school. But in a protected environment, the kids bounce back quickly with the support of their parents.

But more importantly, these kids will face even higher mountains when they get to the top secondary schools. I've seen mainstream kids go into the top secondary schools with T-scores of 270+ flounder in secondary school bec they can't cope with the syllabus and with not being the top student anymore. So they let their grades slide. Very sad.

[Intelligent]

sweetheart:

Only 5 from Nanhua ? So few? My son who is from a vvv Neighbourhood Sch has 6-7 kids who gets selected to GEP ..

Maybe NHPS students are all rounders, not only gifted in 1 area. Understand NHPS has 1 'TAG' class (Talented and Gifted), the class size will be about same as the GEP class. Only TAG class students get to enjoy some subjects classes with the GEP students. So you see, these students not only Gifted, but Talented. :rotflmao: So you can't just put these TAG students into GEP class.

[OrangeJuice]

LegoMan:

8228:

I think 34 is the right number. 2 years ago, there were more than 40. NYPS may take in more than 100. My ds's class has 26 students.

I am quite puzzled that many GEP students have to stay back many days in the school as my ds never stayed back for any GEP curriculum or projects for the past two years. :?

Hi 8228, how is your DS coping ?
is there a lot of competition ?
Is it hard to be picked as one of those involved in the CCAs and activities like prefects, maths olympaid, etc ?

Thanks

Hi 8228, curious, what school is your DS attending ?

[8228]

LegoMan:

8228:

I think 34 is the right number. 2 years ago, there were more than 40. NYPS may take in more than 100. My ds's class has 26 students.

I am quite puzzled that many GEP students have to stay back many days in the school as my ds never stayed back for any GEP curriculum or projects for the past two years. :?

Hi 8228, how is your DS coping ?
is there a lot of competition ?
Is it hard to be picked as one of those involved in the CCAs and activities like prefects, maths olympaid, etc ?

Thanks

My ds (P5 this year) is definitely not one of the shiniest but he has been coping quite well so far, a bit of struggling for project deadline in P4 though. He is not strong in EL too.

He took part in AMC, NMOS, UNSW but he did not really spend too much time for preparation except doing some past year papers before the competitions. I plan to let him practise during the coming holiday to prepare for RIPMWC and SMOPS next year to increase his chance for DSA.

For maths olympiad like NMOS, RIPMWC and SMPOS, I think every student is free to take part but I am not sure what the crtiteria are for joining Advanced Maths CCA. Sorry, I had no idea about the selection of prefects but I heard P4 GEP students transferred from other schools are not encouraged to be one as they are new to the school environment.

[8228]

OrangeJuice:

LegoMan:

[quote=\"8228\"]

I think 34 is the right number. 2 years ago, there were more than 40. NYPS may take in more than 100. My ds's class has 26 students.

I am quite puzzled that many GEP students have to stay back many days in the school as my ds never stayed back for any GEP curriculum or projects for the past two years. :?

Hi 8228, how is your DS coping ?
is there a lot of competition ?
Is it hard to be picked as one of those involved in the CCAs and activities like prefects, maths olympaid, etc ?

Thanks

Hi 8228, curious, what school is your DS attending ?[/quote]NYPS.

[LegoMan]

8228:

LegoMan:

[quote=\"8228\"]

I think 34 is the right number. 2 years ago, there were more than 40. NYPS may take in more than 100. My ds's class has 26 students.

I am quite puzzled that many GEP students have to stay back many days in the school as my ds never stayed back for any GEP curriculum or projects for the past two years. :?

Hi 8228, how is your DS coping ?
is there a lot of competition ?
Is it hard to be picked as one of those involved in the CCAs and activities like prefects, maths olympaid, etc ?

Thanks

My ds (P5 this year) is definitely not one of the shiniest but he has been coping quite well so far, a bit of struggling for project deadline in P4 though. He is not strong in EL too.

He took part in AMC, NMOS, UNSW but he did not really spend too much time for preparation except doing some past year papers before the competitions. I plan to let him practise during the coming holiday to prepare for RIPMWC and SMOPS next year to increase his chance for DSA.

For maths olympiad like NMOS, RIPMWC and SMPOS, I think every student is free to take part but I am not sure what the crtiteria are for joining Advanced Maths CCA. Sorry, I had no idea about the selection of prefects but I heard P4 GEP students transferred from other schools are not encouraged to be one as they are new to the school environment.[/quote]
Thanks for yr reply.

Good luck to your son.

[OrangeJuice]

I have decided to put CHS as 1st choice, anyone knows if the GEP kids at CHS stay back often ? So far I am told by CHS teacher P4 GEP kids have to stay back on Thu for computer enrichment class and another day for CCA.