All About T-Score

[Dharma]

atutor2001:

turquoise:

Hi atutor2001. Can you share with us the performance of the top 2007 to present so we can understand better. Thanks.

No hard feeling to anyone. I am just one of the super kay poh parents.

Generally, the top PSLE student will remain among the top all the way to A level, performing better than the PRC, Vietnam scholars. They are a class above everyone else. I don't think it will happen for 2007, based on the last 2 years results - though the results are still better than the average.

Hi atutor2001,

What makes you say that about the top students of 2007 PSLE batch? Sorry for being kay poh too.

[atutor2001]

In that school, their GPA are about the same for the top students - its not an indicator. You need to know the students personally to know who are the best in the cohort. That is how I kay poh for the info.

[Dharma]

atutor2001:

In that school, their GPA are about the same for the top students - its not an indicator. You need to know the students personally to know who are the best in the cohort. That is how I kay poh for the info.

Seems strange! Çause the mean and median GPA of 2007 PSLE batch at that school much higher than that of the previous 3 batches.

[atutor2001]

Dharma:

Seems strange! Çause the mean and median GPA of 2007 PSLE batch at that school much higher than that of the previous 3 batches.

Cannot compare like that lah. You should know better what (I think your kid is there right?). The GPA is a great joke.

In the earlier years they even have common test on different dates. What do you think would happen? Some silly head .... and was stopped.

Depends on the questions and how much hints .... Personally I know of kids who never study also can get GPA 4 for certain assessments. However, among the students, they know who are the best.

[Dharma]

atutor2001:

Cannot compare like that lah. You should know better what (I think your kid is there right?). The GPA is a great joke.

In the earlier years they even have common test on different dates. What do you think would happen? Some silly head .... and was stopped.

Depends on the questions and how much hints .... Personally I know of kids who never study also can get GPA 4 for certain assessments. However, among the students, they know who are the best.

Friend,

Competition is very keen there. There are couple of girls who are outstanding (she is definitely among them) and it is not easy to differentiate them academically. To be fair to the girl, if you look at her humble family background, I think what she has achieved so far is great.

Surely there are smart ones who don’t study and still be able to score GPA 4.0. But definitely not easy to maintain that if they don’t change their studying habits.

Were your girls from RGS too?

[atutor2001]

Dharma:

....To be fair to the girl, if you look at her humble family background, I think what she has achieved so far is great......

Friend,

This is my greatest fear when I wrote using her as an example - straying away from the actual issue.

I have nothing against her and never doubted her intelligence but only the position in the PSLE T-score. I used her top-score as an example just to substantiate my belief that the assessment method is easily affected by a single subject. I wish she prove me wrong at A-level. The issue we are discussing is

\"How a single subject can change the assessment order of PSLE students\"

OR

\"T-score is not a fair indication of the Students overall performance.

Unfortunately, 2007 was brought up (not by me) and I conveniently use it as an example because the exceptionally record-breaking T-score that year highlighted the flaw in the assessment method caused by \"math\".

So lets not get personal and discuss purely on the system and not the person.

[NYCWTC]

Hi, I don’t think it is possible to have such a high average score for the cohort, and a low SD too.

[CrazyDad]

Hi NYCWTC,

Are you from MOE?
The reason to start this topic is to lure the real MOE dude to put in the REAL Mean and Std Dev. Because whatever we put out here are just some guided guesstimation. Wonder why MOE cannot release these information.

I have been searching for sometime but get nothing... :?

[CrazyDad]

Dharma:

atutor2001:

Cannot compare like that lah. You should know better what (I think your kid is there right?). The GPA is a great joke.

In the earlier years they even have common test on different dates. What do you think would happen? Some silly head .... and was stopped.

Depends on the questions and how much hints .... Personally I know of kids who never study also can get GPA 4 for certain assessments. However, among the students, they know who are the best.

Friend,

Competition is very keen there. There are couple of girls who are outstanding (she is definitely among them) and it is not easy to differentiate them academically. To be fair to the girl, if you look at her humble family background, I think what she has achieved so far is great.

Surely there are smart ones who don’t study and still be able to score GPA 4.0. But definitely not easy to maintain that if they don’t change their studying habits.

Were your girls from RGS too?

The fact that she is no longer the top 10 in the school also prove that T score calculation is skewed towards Malay subject.

[CrazyDad]

jing09292003:

My son took 2007 PSLE. Solved all the tough math questions made him scored 260 with only two A* (M & S).

This example clearly shows that M & S has higher weightage