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    DSA Appeal 2011

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    • J Offline
      joe0599
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      LongPimple:
      I agree with you wholeheartedly. We cannot be deprived of DSA re-Appeal just like that. I am speaking for the parents who wish their child the best of education, the needs of the many. We ( parents and child ) have spent years of effort, money, love to groom our child. All this cannot be measured, yet we are turned down by a simple “no Appeal for DSA students”. Deep in our heart, we know your child who did well in PSLE, qualifies for his first choice school ( which literally a “dream” school now), simply have to accept the 2nd choice. What parents are we if we are not fighting for them ?


      I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP and I even heard some schools charged $20 from DSA student knowing that they are not going to be successful. What is this!

      Should acceptance of DSA be done after the PSLE result ? MOE should lift this restriction now! ( not next batch onwards ). I will be writing to them.
      This pathetically accepted students might have missed a place in DSA because of parents accepting any DSA that comes along for backup and I am glad they dont miss it again this time for the same group of people.

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        ycpang
        last edited by

        LongPimple:
        I agree with you wholeheartedly. We cannot be deprived of DSA re-Appeal just like that. I am speaking for the parents who wish their child the best of education, the needs of the many. We ( parents and child ) have spent years of effort, money, love to groom our child. All this cannot be measured, yet we are turned down by a simple “no Appeal for DSA students”. Deep in our heart, we know your child who did well in PSLE, qualifies for his first choice school ( which literally a “dream” school now), simply have to accept the 2nd choice. What parents are we if we are not fighting for them ?


        I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP and I even heard some schools charged $20 \"Appeal fee\" to DSA students knowing that they are not going to be successful. What is this!

        Should acceptance of DSA be done after the PSLE result ? MOE should lift this restriction now! ( not next batch onwards ). I will be writing to them.
        I can bet with you if today your DS/DD scores lower than the COP of your 2nd choice DSAed school, you will say \"heng ar\" and happily accept the 2nd choice. Then out of sudden, there is no more noises, no more MOE is unfair, no more importance to go 1st choice dream school....Becoz now the 2nd choice DSAed school has become the dream school..

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        • Z Offline
          zeemimi
          last edited by

          LongPimple:


          I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP ...
          Why do u humiliate the sch and this batch of successful appeal girls? Are they of lesser worth than the potential dsa students? Are they not someone else's precious dd who also hv dream schs of their own? :gloomy: do students of lower cop not deserve to hv their dreams fulfilled too?

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          • M Offline
            merlionkid
            last edited by

            zeemimi:
            LongPimple:



            I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP ...

            Why do u humiliate the sch and this batch of successful appeal girls? Are they of lesser worth than the potential dsa students? Are they not someone else's precious dd who also hv dream schs of their own? :gloomy: do students of lower cop not deserve to hv their dreams fulfilled too?

            :salute:

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            • D Offline
              DVL
              last edited by

              ycpang:
              LongPimple:

              I agree with you wholeheartedly. We cannot be deprived of DSA re-Appeal just like that. I am speaking for the parents who wish their child the best of education, the needs of the many. We ( parents and child ) have spent years of effort, money, love to groom our child. All this cannot be measured, yet we are turned down by a simple “no Appeal for DSA students”. Deep in our heart, we know your child who did well in PSLE, qualifies for his first choice school ( which literally a “dream” school now), simply have to accept the 2nd choice. What parents are we if we are not fighting for them ?


              I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP and I even heard some schools charged $20 \"Appeal fee\" to DSA students knowing that they are not going to be successful. What is this!

              Should acceptance of DSA be done after the PSLE result ? MOE should lift this restriction now! ( not next batch onwards ). I will be writing to them.

              I can bet with you if today your DS/DD scores lower than the COP of your 2nd choice DSAed school, you will say \"heng ar\" and happily accept the 2nd choice. Then out of sudden, there is no more noises, no more MOE is unfair, no more importance to go 1st choice dream school....Becoz now the 2nd choice DSAed school has become the dream school..

              Agreed wholeheartedly!

              I am quite bemused by these statements of \"unfairness\" and call for MOE to apologise for their \"mistakes\".

              As parents, we all want the best for our kids. Since we all want the best for our kids, shouldn't we do some due diligence before committing to any COs? I am sure by checking with the school you had received CO from or even checking this forum, you would be aware that there is a strong possibility that MOE would enforce this no appeal rule. From receiving a CO to acceptance, parents have plenty of time to consider, do due diligence and make an informed decision. Why blame others or cry foul when your DS/DD achieved a higher T-score? Also, how can it be unfair when the same rule applies to everyone in the same cohort?

              Unlike S1 posting, MOE had never stated the in the DSA process about appeal after acceptance. Yes, it was a practice to allow appeal previously but if you choose to assume that MOE would continue this practice, do you honestly think it is the fault of MOE? I laughed when I read a post saying that MOE should apologise so that we could teach our kids that even the elites would also make mistake. Instead, I think the lessons we could impart to our kids :

              1) make your decision wisely and take personal responsibility for the decision made
              2) honour your commitment and words

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              • V Offline
                verykiasu2010
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                there is nothing for MOE to apologise


                parents knowingly accepted the DSA CO and now claimed not aware no transfer is allowed is all \"act blurr\" and pretend no such regulation before.

                parents took the chance by accepting the so-called \"second choice\" DSA school as a back up and hoping for a transfer if PSLE turns out to above the cut off point of the \"dream school\" ...... well, if the schools continue to allow it and MOE closes both eyes on the transfer..... then there is nothing we can say and we happily go along and \"game\" the system and exploit the loop hole. but the risk is there .... they can strictly enforce the rule anytime. nothing wrong.

                i am sorry for the parents / child who think this is unfair, but then you have been taking a risk too to exploit the loop hole, admit it. and now the gamble back fired....just say bad luck lah and move on lor ..... after all the \"second choice\" DSA school is actually the \"dream school\" if the PSLE score had been lower than the cop of the second choice school

                LTA has been saying 3/4 tank petrol is required before going across to JB ..... but if they have not been checking and you have been cheating and not caught.....well what is over is over, but if today they decide to check every car and you are caught, you cannot claim don't know lar ....(may not be the best analogy, but you understand what I mean).

                for those parents / child in past years who benefited from the transfer permission, well, lucky lor

                declaration : I used to subscribe to the \"commitment\" of DSA option until I realised the schools were openly co-ordinating on the transfers.

                well, if it happens to me this year, then I would have to say too bad no transfer lor .....

                that is why one should only accept the DSA CO if the child does not mind going to the school which gives the CO. else just decline and wait for PSLE result, as the exams were done before the DSA acceptance date

                okay better :siam: :siam: :siam: 🦆 🦆 🦆

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                  wonderm
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                  DVL:
                  ycpang:

                  [quote=\"LongPimple\"]I agree with you wholeheartedly. We cannot be deprived of DSA re-Appeal just like that. I am speaking for the parents who wish their child the best of education, the needs of the many. We ( parents and child ) have spent years of effort, money, love to groom our child. All this cannot be measured, yet we are turned down by a simple “no Appeal for DSA students”. Deep in our heart, we know your child who did well in PSLE, qualifies for his first choice school ( which literally a “dream” school now), simply have to accept the 2nd choice. What parents are we if we are not fighting for them ?


                  I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP and I even heard some schools charged $20 \"Appeal fee\" to DSA students knowing that they are not going to be successful. What is this!

                  Should acceptance of DSA be done after the PSLE result ? MOE should lift this restriction now! ( not next batch onwards ). I will be writing to them.

                  I can bet with you if today your DS/DD scores lower than the COP of your 2nd choice DSAed school, you will say \"heng ar\" and happily accept the 2nd choice. Then out of sudden, there is no more noises, no more MOE is unfair, no more importance to go 1st choice dream school....Becoz now the 2nd choice DSAed school has become the dream school..

                  Agreed wholeheartedly!

                  I am quite bemused by these statements of \"unfairness\" and call for MOE to apologise for their \"mistakes\".

                  As parents, we all want the best for our kids. Since we all want the best for our kids, shouldn't we do some due diligence before committing to any COs? I am sure by checking with the school you had received CO from or even checking this forum, you would be aware that there is a strong possibility that MOE would enforce this no appeal rule. From receiving a CO to acceptance, parents have plenty of time to consider, do due diligence and make an informed decision. Why blame others or cry foul when your DS/DD achieved a higher T-score? Also, how can it be unfair when the same rule applies to everyone in the same cohort?

                  Unlike S1 posting, MOE had never stated the in the DSA process about appeal after acceptance. Yes, it was a practice to allow appeal previously but if you choose to assume that MOE would continue this practice, do you honestly think it is the fault of MOE? I laughed when I read a post saying that MOE should apologise so that we could teach our kids that even the elites would also make mistake. Instead, I think the lessons we could impart to our kids :

                  1) make your decision wisely and take personal responsibility for the decision made
                  2) honour your commitment and words[/quote] :goodpost:

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                  • Z Offline
                    zeemimi
                    last edited by

                    wonderm


                    pg 17. time 17:17. so zhun.

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                    • W Offline
                      wonderm
                      last edited by

                      verykiasu2010:
                      there is nothing for MOE to apologise


                      parents knowingly accepted the DSA CO and now claimed not aware no transfer is allowed is all \"act blurr\" and pretend no such regulation before.

                      parents took the chance by accepting the so-called \"second choice\" DSA school as a back up and hoping for a transfer if PSLE turns out to above the cut off point of the \"dream school\" ...... well, if the schools continue to allow it and MOE closes both eyes on the transfer..... then there is nothing we can say and we happily go along and \"game\" the system and exploit the loop hole. but the risk is there .... they can strictly enforce the rule anytime. nothing wrong.

                      i am sorry for the parents / child who think this is unfair, but then you have been taking a risk too to exploit the loop hole, admit it. and now the gamble back fired....just say bad luck lah and move on lor ..... after all the \"second choice\" DSA school is actually the \"dream school\" if the PSLE score had been lower than the cop of the second choice school

                      LTA has been saying 3/4 tank petrol is required before going across to JB ..... but if they have not been checking and you have been cheating and not caught.....well what is over is over, but if today they decide to check every car and you are caught, you cannot claim don't know lar ....(may not be the best analogy, but you understand what I mean).

                      for those parents / child in past years who benefited from the transfer permission, well, lucky lor

                      declaration : I used to subscribe to the \"commitment\" of DSA option until I realised the schools were openly co-ordinating on the transfers.

                      well, if it happens to me this year, then I would have to say too bad no transfer lor .....

                      that is why one should only accept the DSA CO if the child does not mind going to the school which gives the CO. else just decline and wait for PSLE result, as the exams were done before the DSA acceptance date

                      okay better :siam: :siam: :siam: 🦆 🦆 🦆
                      Agree wholeheartedly!

                      There are many posts talking about what is the right thing to do. Personally, I think it is important to honor one's commitment. However, as parent myself, I fully understand the kiasu mentality and won't blame those who choose to play safe first. If the system allows transfer after PSLE results, I also won't blame those who take the chance to transfer to their initial dream school. In fact, I have many friends who did that for their children in past years, I was happy for them too.

                      If we really look at it objectively, we would agree this was a \"loop\" hole in the past and it is increasingly making the DSA process a waste of time for many schools and students. Hence, it should not be a surprise MOE decides to plug the hole.

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                      • W Offline
                        wonderm
                        last edited by

                        zeemimi:
                        wonderm


                        pg 17. time 17:17. so zhun.
                        😄

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