DSA Appeal 2011
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Thank you and we always appreciate someone who willing to put their effort in trying to understand my point.
We felt sad indeed not able to success in our appeal, but we do not feel bad about the sec sch that we chosen.
My argue point is that the moe has really made a serious mistake in the process. And the children as well as parents were sacrificed.
We always tell ourselves when u worked hard and u get rewarded in sg, but this time we worked hard trying to appeal as what has been going on in the past yrs, but we were played out by the moe. I am curious to find out is there anything related to the new minister's \"new thought\"?
We just want an open apology from the ministry, telling our kids even so-called elites made mistake in sg!
pepper spice:
Hi parentathome, I empathise with you, that you are feeling disappointed and perhaps bitter about the situation you are in.parentathome:
I have double checked the documents issued to us early this yr and the one that we signed for dsa preference and it WASN'T stated that NO dsa appealing after we accepted. So frens, pls ensure you know abt the entire process and story b4 commenting my unsatifaction. We do not argue with no grounds. We r talking abt an administration mistake that ignored what's going on for yrs and terminate it out of a sudden to our kids.
Just to share with you - my hubby was from RI and when our son was unable to get in, and I felt disappointed, my hubby consoled me and said that his years of studying in RI also never give him any distinct advantage or priviledges that other schools in Singapore cannot give. So he gives his blessings and support to our son to whichever school he is being posted to.
Hope I am not bragging, but over the years, I have learned to appreciate the very sound, wise and far-sighed advice that my hubby gives, and I am now sharing with you one as above. If you do finally succeed in your appeal, congrats, but if not, move on. If you feel bitter about it, your child may also sense it and it is not healthy for the relationship. Merry christmas. -
Before applying for DSA, we were told that MOE is not going to entertain DSA appealing this year and were advised to DSA to school(s) that our child is/are keen or do not mind going. The P from NYGH and HCI have also informed parents abt MOE’s direction.
Since the pupil was informed of the DSA outcome before the PSLE (even before prelim) and only needs to exercise the DSA offer AFTER the PSLE so the pupil should have a feel how well he did for the exam. In fact MOE has given us more than enough time to consider whether to take up the 2nd choice CO. Imagine we have to exercise the DSA offer before the PSLE! -
Then in this case, it is even more unfair. Not all principals informed the parents of the MOE’s new directive before the kids accept the DSA CO. The P from NYGH and HCI have done the students justice, but not other principals. MOE customer service will tell you MOE communicates the "new" directive directly with schools (not parents) and schools are suppose to relate the info to parents. So in this case, many principals have not done so. There is definitely a communication breakdown. BTW the new directive is roughly that …transfer allow only for extenuating reasons, eg. not able to fulfil sports DSA commitment due to permanent injury…
I strongly believe this strict adherence to the "new" directive has alot to do with the new minister who came in after the GE in May. That’s why schools receive the "new" directive very late in Oct ??? It should have been done in Jan to make sure there is enough time to pass the info to ALL parents and students. -
I agree with you wholeheartedly. We cannot be deprived of DSA re-Appeal just like that. I am speaking for the parents who wish their child the best of education, the needs of the many. We ( parents and child ) have spent years of effort, money, love to groom our child. All this cannot be measured, yet we are turned down by a simple “no Appeal for DSA students”. Deep in our heart, we know your child who did well in PSLE, qualifies for his first choice school ( which literally a “dream” school now), simply have to accept the 2nd choice. What parents are we if we are not fighting for them ?
I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP and I even heard some schools charged $20 "Appeal fee" to DSA students knowing that they are not going to be successful. What is this!
Should acceptance of DSA be done after the PSLE result ? MOE should lift this restriction now! ( not next batch onwards ). I will be writing to them. -
LongPimple:
This pathetically accepted students might have missed a place in DSA because of parents accepting any DSA that comes along for backup and I am glad they dont miss it again this time for the same group of people.I agree with you wholeheartedly. We cannot be deprived of DSA re-Appeal just like that. I am speaking for the parents who wish their child the best of education, the needs of the many. We ( parents and child ) have spent years of effort, money, love to groom our child. All this cannot be measured, yet we are turned down by a simple “no Appeal for DSA students”. Deep in our heart, we know your child who did well in PSLE, qualifies for his first choice school ( which literally a “dream” school now), simply have to accept the 2nd choice. What parents are we if we are not fighting for them ?
I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP and I even heard some schools charged $20 from DSA student knowing that they are not going to be successful. What is this!
Should acceptance of DSA be done after the PSLE result ? MOE should lift this restriction now! ( not next batch onwards ). I will be writing to them. -
LongPimple:
I can bet with you if today your DS/DD scores lower than the COP of your 2nd choice DSAed school, you will say \"heng ar\" and happily accept the 2nd choice. Then out of sudden, there is no more noises, no more MOE is unfair, no more importance to go 1st choice dream school....Becoz now the 2nd choice DSAed school has become the dream school..I agree with you wholeheartedly. We cannot be deprived of DSA re-Appeal just like that. I am speaking for the parents who wish their child the best of education, the needs of the many. We ( parents and child ) have spent years of effort, money, love to groom our child. All this cannot be measured, yet we are turned down by a simple “no Appeal for DSA students”. Deep in our heart, we know your child who did well in PSLE, qualifies for his first choice school ( which literally a “dream” school now), simply have to accept the 2nd choice. What parents are we if we are not fighting for them ?
I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP and I even heard some schools charged $20 \"Appeal fee\" to DSA students knowing that they are not going to be successful. What is this!
Should acceptance of DSA be done after the PSLE result ? MOE should lift this restriction now! ( not next batch onwards ). I will be writing to them. -
LongPimple:
Why do u humiliate the sch and this batch of successful appeal girls? Are they of lesser worth than the potential dsa students? Are they not someone else's precious dd who also hv dream schs of their own? :gloomy: do students of lower cop not deserve to hv their dreams fulfilled too?
I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP ... -
zeemimi:
:salute:
Why do u humiliate the sch and this batch of successful appeal girls? Are they of lesser worth than the potential dsa students? Are they not someone else's precious dd who also hv dream schs of their own? :gloomy: do students of lower cop not deserve to hv their dreams fulfilled too?LongPimple:
I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP ... -
ycpang:
Agreed wholeheartedly!
I can bet with you if today your DS/DD scores lower than the COP of your 2nd choice DSAed school, you will say \"heng ar\" and happily accept the 2nd choice. Then out of sudden, there is no more noises, no more MOE is unfair, no more importance to go 1st choice dream school....Becoz now the 2nd choice DSAed school has become the dream school..LongPimple:
I agree with you wholeheartedly. We cannot be deprived of DSA re-Appeal just like that. I am speaking for the parents who wish their child the best of education, the needs of the many. We ( parents and child ) have spent years of effort, money, love to groom our child. All this cannot be measured, yet we are turned down by a simple “no Appeal for DSA students”. Deep in our heart, we know your child who did well in PSLE, qualifies for his first choice school ( which literally a “dream” school now), simply have to accept the 2nd choice. What parents are we if we are not fighting for them ?
I heard NYGS short of appeals of potential DSA students and have to pathetically accept Appeals from those less than COP and I even heard some schools charged $20 \"Appeal fee\" to DSA students knowing that they are not going to be successful. What is this!
Should acceptance of DSA be done after the PSLE result ? MOE should lift this restriction now! ( not next batch onwards ). I will be writing to them.
I am quite bemused by these statements of \"unfairness\" and call for MOE to apologise for their \"mistakes\".
As parents, we all want the best for our kids. Since we all want the best for our kids, shouldn't we do some due diligence before committing to any COs? I am sure by checking with the school you had received CO from or even checking this forum, you would be aware that there is a strong possibility that MOE would enforce this no appeal rule. From receiving a CO to acceptance, parents have plenty of time to consider, do due diligence and make an informed decision. Why blame others or cry foul when your DS/DD achieved a higher T-score? Also, how can it be unfair when the same rule applies to everyone in the same cohort?
Unlike S1 posting, MOE had never stated the in the DSA process about appeal after acceptance. Yes, it was a practice to allow appeal previously but if you choose to assume that MOE would continue this practice, do you honestly think it is the fault of MOE? I laughed when I read a post saying that MOE should apologise so that we could teach our kids that even the elites would also make mistake. Instead, I think the lessons we could impart to our kids :
1) make your decision wisely and take personal responsibility for the decision made
2) honour your commitment and words -
there is nothing for MOE to apologise
parents knowingly accepted the DSA CO and now claimed not aware no transfer is allowed is all \"act blurr\" and pretend no such regulation before.
parents took the chance by accepting the so-called \"second choice\" DSA school as a back up and hoping for a transfer if PSLE turns out to above the cut off point of the \"dream school\" ...... well, if the schools continue to allow it and MOE closes both eyes on the transfer..... then there is nothing we can say and we happily go along and \"game\" the system and exploit the loop hole. but the risk is there .... they can strictly enforce the rule anytime. nothing wrong.
i am sorry for the parents / child who think this is unfair, but then you have been taking a risk too to exploit the loop hole, admit it. and now the gamble back fired....just say bad luck lah and move on lor ..... after all the \"second choice\" DSA school is actually the \"dream school\" if the PSLE score had been lower than the cop of the second choice school
LTA has been saying 3/4 tank petrol is required before going across to JB ..... but if they have not been checking and you have been cheating and not caught.....well what is over is over, but if today they decide to check every car and you are caught, you cannot claim don't know lar ....(may not be the best analogy, but you understand what I mean).
for those parents / child in past years who benefited from the transfer permission, well, lucky lor
declaration : I used to subscribe to the \"commitment\" of DSA option until I realised the schools were openly co-ordinating on the transfers.
well, if it happens to me this year, then I would have to say too bad no transfer lor .....
that is why one should only accept the DSA CO if the child does not mind going to the school which gives the CO. else just decline and wait for PSLE result, as the exams were done before the DSA acceptance date
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