How to tell if a child is gifted?

[2ppaamm]

mashy:

Wow, in university! I also find that it is a very fine line between giftedness and autism. I think most gifted pp aren't really interested in people. Like what temple grandin said, if this world was left to the socialites, we will still be living in caves. Lol.


I don't think we can ever afford to leave the country though becoz on top of this, he has growth hormone deficiency. Talk about double whammy. It's bleeding us dry already. Hope we will be able to wriggle through the system somehow. Thanks for sharing!

Are u the blogger who wrote on the conflicts of your son and the sch teachers? And how the teachers kept accusing him of pushing the table?

Haha, I no longer blog. Only a few articles and I stopped writing because I transferred all of them to my Facebook account using a newer technology to reach my readers, same name though. You can like the page if you find it, don't really want to publicize my page on ksp, not very right to leverage on KSP. I like this site a lot.

[2ppaamm]

sleepyqueen:

deardear07:

my child's teacher once told me that children who can draw quite well tend to have higher IQs. how true is that? as in...can see that they have advanced development in terms of drawing and not simply doodling lines.


I know itz norm for children aged 3 to be able to recognize the alphabet and count (not rote count, but meaningfully) but i know itz not norm for them to write clear letters and numbers. im referring to all these for children who have not received formal 'training' but more of through observation of teachers and minimal teaching.

any comments on these?

Oops, mine until today still does not draw well even though he is in P3.

It's ok I think, my 2nd daughter just turned 14 and she suddenly found a lot of passion in drawing, she's been drawing non stop the last 2 weeks and have improved a lot. And, she is such a late 'drawer', but she earned her place in the uni just last week. So I don't think drawing is the only indicator of ability. I certainly think she has proven she is not too low in the IQ department. We have been celebrating these 2 days! She with her drawings, and me with all the food. Yum!

[deardear07]

2ppaamm:

sleepyqueen:

[quote=\"deardear07\"]my child's teacher once told me that children who can draw quite well tend to have higher IQs. how true is that? as in...can see that they have advanced development in terms of drawing and not simply doodling lines.


I know itz norm for children aged 3 to be able to recognize the alphabet and count (not rote count, but meaningfully) but i know itz not norm for them to write clear letters and numbers. im referring to all these for children who have not received formal 'training' but more of through observation of teachers and minimal teaching.

any comments on these?

Oops, mine until today still does not draw well even though he is in P3.

It's ok I think, my 2nd daughter just turned 14 and she suddenly found a lot of passion in drawing, she's been drawing non stop the last 2 weeks and have improved a lot. And, she is such a late 'drawer', but she earned her place in the uni just last week. So I don't think drawing is the only indicator of ability. I certainly think she has proven she is not too low in the IQ department. We have been celebrating these 2 days! She with her drawings, and me with all the food. Yum! :)[/quote]
Lol...when they have the interest,they can most certainly excel. Gifted children tend to be self motivated.

[ConcernedDaddy]

interesting thread!

[solochn]

Hi,


He seems to gifted of sort. I am not too sure really.

My Child is almost 5 now and when he was 3 he can do a 200 piece puzzle by himself. He enjoys it very much and can do and dismantle and redo the same puzzle countless time. We never thought much of it. Just kept buying him puzzles.

Until now… He is almost 5 and is able to complete a 1000 piece puzzle mostly by himself. We have done about 3 sets of 1000 already and is not able to buy a bigger one for him because he cannot handle the size. He however prefer someone to do it together with him. And as before he likes to complete and dismantle and redo the same puzzle over and over again.

Now here is the interesting part… After completing a 1000 piece puzzle the first time ,with some help from us. On the second attempt onwards, I can give him any piece of puzzle and he knows exactly where it goes most of the time. After a few more attempt on the same puzzle he can do it with uncanny accuracy. He can place a piece in the middle and tell you it belongs there.

We are now doing a 1000 puzzle of ‘The last Judgement’ by Michelangelo, it is not an easy one to complete even for an adult, its the most difficult one we have done so far. We are on our second attempt and he is displaying the same ability once again.

Much as I want to shower him with puzzles, which he really love. I just need to know if he is gifted or just has a very good memory, or if there are any other kids like him.

Does anyone has a similar experience? Please share.

Thank you.

SC

[2ppaamm]

Hi SC,


Of my 5 kids, I have one who is extremely interested in puzzles as well. That would be my youngest child. I can recall him starting to do puzzles very young, before he could talk. He would arrange them and smile happily. They are very few pieces, maybe 20 or so.

His interests in puzzles continued until he started primary school. I stopped buying puzzles because I have no time to go to the shop, and he also stopped assembling them because I am a neat freak and would keep everything and forget to bring them out. I remember his uncles and aunts used to be amazed by the rate he could do puzzles and his accuracy even before he turned one. I took no notice of it.

I am not sure if he is gifted or not, he is only in P2, and it is not that important. Come to think of it, maybe I should go and buy some puzzles since he used to like them so much. I don’t do them with him, or guide him. He just walks around the puzzles and puts them in place as a child. Fun to watch.

Have fun with the child!

[laughingcat]

My DS1 also loves to read, draw and play puzzles as well. Likewise he can do 1000 pieces of puzzles. He can even fixed starwar lego than is meant for age 12 and above. To me i don’t care whether is he gifted or not. Personally it is early to be label as such. A quick hasty labelling is unnecessary as it will give an unwarranted expectation and disappointment. So what if the child is gifted or not? Does it means the provision is based on giftedness?


To me I just want my DS to enjoy childhood and all i ever do is to provide as much as possible in my capacity and support and loves to spur him on. That is more important.

[solochn]

Thanks for the reply.


I agree with laughingcat that it does not matter if our kids are gifted or not. But we’ll need to know their ability, in order to create the best environment for them. Expectation and disappointment depends on individual parents and has nothing to do with the child. Having a gifted child is as good as having on that has learning disabilities, in terms of responsibility to the child. Hope you can understand what I am getting at. Just my 2 cents worth. Please do not be offended.

By the way laughingcat, how old is your DS1?

[laughingcat]

DS1 is K2 next year.


Why i am saying that it is unnecessary to label your child is because of my past. My father used to tell his relatives and my mum how intelligent and gifted I am among my sibilings. Each time after the release of the exam result, he will surely repeat those remarks. However these remarks really made me very uncomfortable because i can sense the negative vibes from my elder sibilings and worse from my mum because she can’t accept the fact that her only DS is not. It came to a point that it just sour the relationship and abusive action follows on. Many a times, i just felt so left out just because i am "smartest" ones. It just hurt.

Labelling a child like that may not necessarily be good. Parents will be parents. Sometime actions maybe for the goodness but subconciously it can turn out to be negative to others. Acceptance is another.

You do not necessarily need to know the child’s ability to create the best environment. As a parents, you just create the best environment in your capacity to improve ypur child weaknesses. That is my humble opinion yeah based on my bad past. Pls don’t slam me if my remarks is offensive as i didn’t mean it that way.

[mashy]

Hehe, I think gifted kids are actually problematic ones coz they won't accept your answers readily and give teachers a headache by doing things their way. They take things apart and question authority. It's a huge responsibility of the parents to give them the right nurturing.


If kids are obedient and smart, they are probably just bright not gifted.