How to tell if a child is gifted?
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lambchop1976:
I agree that the interest and creativity may be eroded. Recently I read some comments that if kids use algebra to solve maths problems, before they have been taught algebra in school, they may be marked wrong even if their answer is perfectly correct. That really sends chills down my spine. It is not about the marks, by marking his solution wrong, is like telling him that algebra is wrong, which is the most ridiculous thing that I have heard.Its true the local preschools do not cater to those kids who r more advance. N even whn they r in pri lvl they onli get tested for GEP whn they are in upper pri. Well i thk by then, interest creativity intelligences..etc much will be eroded by our \"stick to the mud\" syst. Those testing for dyslexia or IQ test can only be done whn child is much older.
my eldest son going to turn 5 this dec can read well before he was 4. He was reading newspaper and encylcopedia. well of course with adult jargon/ voca/ proverbs which he cant comprehen yet. His sch tchr only commented \"Oh ya he can read very well.\" n she keeps asking him to read for the class. I really do not know what i shd do next to help him advance. Can anyone advise? Thanks
For your son, my advise is as above, let him have access to a wide variety of books and encourage him to learn on his own. -
lambchop1976:
my son is 10 yrs old now. At about 18 mths, he was able to recite a to z and a for apple, b for boy till z for zoo... at that time I found him a bit gifted and was anxious looking for a pre pre school at the age of 3 but could not find one which is suitable... when he was in k1 and k2 his teachers gave good comments on him and at the age of 5 he was playing chinese chess with his grandpa.Its true the local preschools do not cater to those kids who r more advance. N even whn they r in pri lvl they onli get tested for GEP whn they are in upper pri. Well i thk by then, interest creativity intelligences..etc much will be eroded by our \"stick to the mud\" syst. Those testing for dyslexia or IQ test can only be done whn child is much older.
my eldest son going to turn 5 this dec can read well before he was 4. He was reading newspaper and encylcopedia. well of course with adult jargon/ voca/ proverbs which he cant comprehen yet. His sch tchr only commented \"Oh ya he can read very well.\" n she keeps asking him to read for the class. I really do not know what i shd do next to help him advance. Can anyone advise? Thanks
Well when he started his primary school education, somehow, he was busy with ca1,ca2, sa1 and sa2... So regarding the issue about letting your gifted child to have advance education even before p4 ( wherebly there is this gep) .. well what I feel is probably let the gifted kids enjoy their lower primary years. If they are able to pass the screening test which is held in later part of p3, they will be qualified to take up gifted education programme in p4 where the subjects are taught more in depth and in faster phase.
and this program is not very easy to most gep students as they will need to do projects and etc which the mainstream students will only experience it in secondary school.
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My 1st time trawling this forum to learn how to teach my kid to read. Great information ladies!
But on the giftedness part, maybe coz i'm a guy and hence i'm from Mars, i'm quite surprise ppl think their kids maybe gifted? By the definition of giftedness, it is very rare to have someone gifted. You'll know for sure if yours is gifted. No need to check IQ one
And i do know that kids pick up a lot v. fast esp. if we repeat the task to them. while my boy cant read at 4yrs old, he can beat me at some computer games (which tells me he've been playing it non-stop when i'm away working :(...... ) -
Idono:
... By the definition of giftedness, it is very rare to have someone gifted. You'll know for sure if yours is gifted. No need to check IQ one
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Bingo. Makes you wonder why the powers-to-be think it necessary to declare that 1% of our children every year MUST be gifted and therefore MUST be identified through English and Maths tests so that they can be hived off and trained in more esoteric ways. -
I feel that parents should trust their instinct. If you have a child who learns effortlessly, for example, she can add 2 digit numbers by the age of 4, and you cannot remember how you taught her. Or she could recognize all 26 letters by 16 months old, and you don't know how she learned them. Or he can read on his own, and you don't remember teaching him how to read.
Gifted kids have an amazing ability to learn. If we want to identify them, we should test their ability to learn new things(new language, new skill, etc), and not test them on what they already know.
I also believe that gifted kids can learn best before the age of 6, because they have less distractions. And that does not mean that they are sacrificing their childhood. Remember that gifted kids are able to learn effortlessly. They may spend less than 30 mins a day learning, and the rest of the time playing. They can still be far more advance than other kids. -
[quote]Bingo. Makes you wonder why the powers-to-be think it necessary to declare that 1% of our children every year MUST be gifted and therefore MUST be identified through English and Maths tests so that they can be hived off and trained in more esoteric ways.[/quote]
Wouldnt it be interesting to see, if the powers-to-be at last decided to scrap the need to identify? I do wonder, who will scream foul the loudest.
1) The ones that splurge a one time $2K on GEP training OR
2) The hardworking ones aka parents of hot house kids (no GEP training but so many enrichment & countless of hours at home mentoring) OR
3) Parents of a naturally gifted kids
Does anybody want to make a guess? Oooooppppsss....am I being flame? -
EN:
[quote]Bingo. Makes you wonder why the powers-to-be think it necessary to declare that 1% of our children every year MUST be gifted and therefore MUST be identified through English and Maths tests so that they can be hived off and trained in more esoteric ways.
Wouldnt it be interesting to see, if the powers-to-be at last decided to scrap the need to identify? I do wonder, who will scream foul the loudest.
1) The ones that splurge a one time $2K on GEP training OR
2) The hardworking ones aka parents of hot house kids (no GEP training but so many enrichment & countless of hours at home mentoring) OR
3) Parents of a naturally gifted kids
Does anybody want to make a guess? Oooooppppsss....am I being flame?[/quote]1. I thought it was $6k? oops! Certainly this group cos the pocket says 'Ouch!!!\"
2. If a parent quit job to play this role, then yes, it is another \"Ouch and Ouch\" because single income, alot of sacrifice
3. My sympathies for this group because if they truly have one to groom, scraping it would really leave them no institution to turn to... but all is not lost, for giftedness usually has a certain skew. Then just go to the professionals in that area to further develop the talent. eg. Maths....there are enough institutions to groom such children.
So my ranking is 2,1,3, just for fun discussion. -
Idono:
... By the definition of giftedness, it is very rare to have someone gifted. You'll know for sure if yours is gifted. No need to check IQ one
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I like the part where you said \"no need to check IQ one\".
Very straightforward. :lol: -
EN:
EN,
Wouldnt it be interesting to see, if the powers-to-be at last decided to scrap the need to identify? I do wonder, who will scream foul the loudest.
1) The ones that splurge a one time $2K on GEP training OR
2) The hardworking ones aka parents of hot house kids (no GEP training but so many enrichment & countless of hours at home mentoring) OR
3) Parents of a naturally gifted kids
Does anybody want to make a guess? Oooooppppsss....am I being flame?
I would think that parents of naturally gifted kids will be those who care the least
because they don't need to spend any $ to train their kids.
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[quote]1. I thought it was $6k? oops! Certainly this group cos the pocket says 'Ouch!!!\" [/quote]
Wow!!! $6K? I'm so misinformed.
[quote] So my ranking is 2,1,3, just for fun discussion[/quote]My ranking is in the same order too.
[quote]I would think that parents of naturally gifted kids will be those who care the least because they don't need to spend any $ to train their kids[/quote]The politically sociably correct answer :lol: so that she will not offend group 1 and 2 parents.
PS: Do you think I'll be send for caning to principal for touching such a sensitve issue? :scared:
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