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    Can we bring our students' learning away from tuition?

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    • C Offline
      Chenonceau
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      buds:

      Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good.
      :goodpost: :goodpost:

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        coast
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        Chenonceau:
        coast:


        I guess in my ernest wish that a system could be put in place to ensure schools teach enough following limlim's suggestion (which I did say it is a good idea), I was playing too much of a devil's advocate to the loopholes (as I feel MOE will not implement unless loopholes can be somewhat addressed).

        A wee misunderstanding all around. Words got in the way. šŸ˜„

        šŸ˜“

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          Chenonceau
          last edited by

          coast:

          šŸ˜“
          :snuggles: :hugs: šŸ’‹

          Hope you feel better now...

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            coast
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            buds:

            Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good. A wee far-fetched for now but i am optimistic it can be done by employing curriculum specialists. I used to furnish ideas and worksheets for the organization i worked with and their syllabus and worksheets are pretty much auto-run now plus children are sufficiently (if not more) prepared for primary school education and i'm not referring to just P1. šŸ˜‰
            :goodpost:

            Why far-fetched? :?

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              Chenonceau
              last edited by

              coast:
              buds:


              Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good. A wee far-fetched for now but i am optimistic it can be done by employing curriculum specialists. I used to furnish ideas and worksheets for the organization i worked with and their syllabus and worksheets are pretty much auto-run now plus children are sufficiently (if not more) prepared for primary school education and i'm not referring to just P1. šŸ˜‰

              :goodpost:

              Why far-fetched? :?

              Yeah... why hah?

              And Coast, why your colour-coding so odd?

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                buds
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                Joule:
                yes, we can bring our students learning away from tuition WHEN


                1) grade inflation has stopped and is under control

                but grade inflation is but a result of parental 'kiasu-ness' (which is why you are here, no?)

                also, in an increasing competitive nation (with more FT kiddos coming in), how do your kids stand out? isn't it to study harder and hopefully become a chicken essence kiddo?

                basically, in parent's hearts, I think deep down they still have this ancient china imperial examination mindset. the best and brightest become officials and get to serve the emperor.... wonder who the emperor is going to be, this time....

                if marks were not the issue, tuition centres would go out of business.
                so being kiasu parents, they subscribe to more tuition, more homework, more enrichment.....more grades...which means scholarship, become an elite official / civil servant and live happily ever after.....
                SlimShady:
                Well said, but isn't it disgusting to see parents forgetting the joy of bringing up happy children but instead join the rat race and in doing so putting their kids under this tremendous pressure for the self satisfaction of the parents. Basically the parents want to brag about the kids and be praised on how they have done well to bringing up such intelligent kids. But are these kids street smart? Do they have the necessary EQ to outperform the others holistically? Kiasu Parents ask yourself, do you want happy children or just intelligent ones? A happy child will enjoy the learning process..............

                It really saddens me to see our children these days. They do not know how to play!
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                ME! ME! šŸ˜‚

                (Psst.. verykiasu2010.. i borrow your hand hor. šŸ˜‚)

                I have playful children! Err.. i mean i have children who have time to play.
                They are not so intelligent and not so street smart but they ARE happy..
                Can? :please:

                And oh oh oh.. one more.. my children enjoy the learning process. šŸ˜‰

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                  coast
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                  Chenonceau:
                  coast:


                  šŸ˜“

                  :snuggles: :hugs: šŸ’‹

                  Hope you feel better now...

                  :thankyou:

                  Well, it's my mistake for not putting my point clearly in the first place šŸ™‚ But my conscience is clear as I never thought that way.

                  Sorry about the colour coding ... have edited that post šŸ™‚

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                    limlim
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                    Chenonceau:
                    coast:

                    [quote=\"buds\"]
                    Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good. A wee far-fetched for now but i am optimistic it can be done by employing curriculum specialists. I used to furnish ideas and worksheets for the organization i worked with and their syllabus and worksheets are pretty much auto-run now plus children are sufficiently (if not more) prepared for primary school education and i'm not referring to just P1. šŸ˜‰

                    :goodpost:

                    Why far-fetched? :?

                    Yeah... why hah?

                    And Coast, why your colour-coding so odd?[/quote]Mebbe she highlight, click on colour.. type type.. then forgot.. then highlight again..? šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜‰

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                      buds
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                      Far-fetched because...


                      1. There are curriculum specialists within the industry but they go to tuition centers to develop sound resources and materials to prepare for the supposed PSLE standard that are absent in our local textbooks.

                      2. There must be curriculum specialists within MOE as the curriculum gets updated certain years, ain't it? So instead of just updating the list of \"concepts to be covered\", delve right into churning out the \"actual\" resources for our students.

                      This too will help ease the parents' pockets from getting too many unnecessary guides, resources, materials, assessments and what nots OR worse for parents who don't even know what to get... they get too many that end up as white elephants.

                      3. Why far-fetched? Because we hear umpteen times of improvements to be implemented to level the playing field.. better resources for teachers.. better training.. uhhh... still waiting... sooo ... in other words, if you add one more task to the few suggested-look-intos to date... errr... when arh? :scratch head:

                      But like i said, it can be done. Yes, i AM optimistic. šŸ˜„

                      It takes a hands-on leader and fellow educator to lead the education dept to whip the sub-depts into shape and also to follow thru with the promises and agendas as proposed time and time again. If need be, employ more people with the expertise to run the projects to succession... and not just lip-service... for once.

                      However, all that being said... my girls' teachers update us as and when and what courses, workshops or seminars they have to attend to keep up with the changes of the curriculum. In a way, internally they do have something in place which i think is doing good... for my children and their schoolmates at least. šŸ˜‰ While MOE doesn't declare or have the need to declare everything they do, they are doing something. :please:

                      Baby steps i guess..

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                        Chenonceau
                        last edited by

                        buds:
                        Far-fetched because...


                        1. There are curriculum specialists within the industry but they go to tuition centers to develop sound resources and materials to prepare for the supposed PSLE standard that are absent in our local textbooks.

                        2. There must be curriculum specialists within MOE as the curriculum gets updated certain years, ain't it? So instead of just updating the list of \"concepts to be covered\", delve right into churning out the \"actual\" resources for our students.

                        This too will help ease the parents' pockets from getting too many unnecessary guides, resources, materials, assessments and what nots OR worse for parents who don't even know what to get... they get too many that end up as white elephants.

                        3. Why far-fetched? Because we hear umpteen times of improvements to be implemented to level the playing field.. better resources for teachers.. better training.. uhhh... still waiting... sooo ... in other words, if you add one more task to the few suggested-look-intos to date... errr... when arh? :scratch head:

                        But like i said, it can be done. Yes, i AM optimistic. šŸ˜„

                        It takes a hands-on leader and fellow educator to lead the education dept to whip the sub-depts into shape and also to follow thru with the promises and agendas as proposed time and time again. If need be, employ more people with the expertise to run the projects to succession... and not just lip-service... for once.

                        However, all that being said... my girls' teachers update us as and when and what courses, workshops or seminars they have to attend to keep up with the changes of the curriculum. In a way, internally they do have something in place which i think is doing good... for my children and their schoolmates at least. šŸ˜‰ While MOE doesn't declare or have the need to declare everything they do, they are doing something. :please:

                        Baby steps i guess..
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