Can we bring our students' learning away from tuition?

[buds]

Chenonceau:

buds:

Not every school or their teachers are the types who don't teach or don't distribute sufficient (or extras?) materials beyond school texts or syllabus.

If 10%... 20%... 30%... 40% of schools don't distribute sufficient resources to cover what they test (so not extras but needed to pass exams), does it become a system problem then? How large a percentage of low performing schools is systemic?

Even if only 1% of schools don't distribute sufficient resources, it does mean a few hundred students a year. No one expects all schools to be perfect. It is a sign of a robust system to have redundancies and contingencies. Hence, if textbooks were more comprehensive, it would go some way to help students in the 1% of schools which aren't well run... without them having to turn to tuition.

Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good. A wee far-fetched for now but i am optimistic it can be done by employing curriculum specialists. I used to furnish ideas and worksheets for the organization i worked with and their syllabus and worksheets are pretty much auto-run now plus children are sufficiently (if not more) prepared for primary school education and i'm not referring to just P1.

Since no one is perfect, yes.. no school CAN be perfect. The head of the school must also have THE drive to motivate and to INSPIRE his/her teachers to strive for the school's vision.. For those who just stay in their offices.. and have the do-not-disturb me look i.e. closed-door-policy.. or any problem attack my frontline staff first hor... :roll: aiyaah.. :slapshead: .. no comment dy lar. Say oso sianz... sigh..

From what i've learnt through the girls' teachers is that... they periodically have to attend workshops that the school organizes or external companies the school engages to share new/creative stuff for the teachers. NIE also calls upon (in phases) their teachers to attend workshops that covers new things implemented in the school syllabus/curriculum, cos they say there are always new things coming up so new things to learn. In a way, they find it helpful and refreshing as it helps them teach their students from a different angle/method that could help stray from boring textbook material.

[Chenonceau]

coast:

I guess in my ernest wish that a system could be put in place to ensure schools teach enough following limlim's suggestion (which I did say it is a good idea), I was playing too much of a devil's advocate to the loopholes (as I feel MOE will not implement unless loopholes can be somewhat addressed).

A wee misunderstanding all around. Words got in the way.

[SlimShady]

Well said, but isn't it disgusting to see parents forgetting the joy of bringing up happy children but instead join the rat race and in doing so putting their kids under this tremendous pressure for the self satisfaction of the parents. Basically the parents want to brag about the kids and be praised on how they have done well to bringing up such intelligent kids. But are these kids street smart? Do they have the necessary EQ to outperform the others holistically? Kiasu Parents ask yourself, do you want happy children or just intelligent ones? A happy child will enjoy the learning process..............


It really saddens me to see our children these days. They do not know how to play!

Joule:

yes, we can bring our students learning away from tuition WHEN

1) grade inflation has stopped and is under control

but grade inflation is but a result of parental 'kiasu-ness' (which is why you are here, no?)

also, in an increasing competitive nation (with more FT kiddos coming in), how do your kids stand out? isn't it to study harder and hopefully become a chicken essence kiddo?

basically, in parent's hearts, I think deep down they still have this ancient china imperial examination mindset. the best and brightest become officials and get to serve the emperor.... wonder who the emperor is going to be, this time....

if marks were not the issue, tuition centres would go out of business.
so being kiasu parents, they subscribe to more tuition, more homework, more enrichment.....more grades...which means scholarship, become an elite official / civil servant and live happily ever after.....

[Chenonceau]

buds:

Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good.

:goodpost: :goodpost:

[coast]

Chenonceau:

coast:

I guess in my ernest wish that a system could be put in place to ensure schools teach enough following limlim's suggestion (which I did say it is a good idea), I was playing too much of a devil's advocate to the loopholes (as I feel MOE will not implement unless loopholes can be somewhat addressed).

A wee misunderstanding all around. Words got in the way.

[Chenonceau]

coast:

:snuggles: :hugs:

Hope you feel better now...

[coast]

buds:

Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good. A wee far-fetched for now but i am optimistic it can be done by employing curriculum specialists. I used to furnish ideas and worksheets for the organization i worked with and their syllabus and worksheets are pretty much auto-run now plus children are sufficiently (if not more) prepared for primary school education and i'm not referring to just P1.

:goodpost:

Why far-fetched? :?

[Chenonceau]

coast:

buds:

Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good. A wee far-fetched for now but i am optimistic it can be done by employing curriculum specialists. I used to furnish ideas and worksheets for the organization i worked with and their syllabus and worksheets are pretty much auto-run now plus children are sufficiently (if not more) prepared for primary school education and i'm not referring to just P1.

:goodpost:

Why far-fetched? :?

Yeah... why hah?

And Coast, why your colour-coding so odd?

[buds]

Joule:

yes, we can bring our students learning away from tuition WHEN


1) grade inflation has stopped and is under control

but grade inflation is but a result of parental 'kiasu-ness' (which is why you are here, no?)

also, in an increasing competitive nation (with more FT kiddos coming in), how do your kids stand out? isn't it to study harder and hopefully become a chicken essence kiddo?

basically, in parent's hearts, I think deep down they still have this ancient china imperial examination mindset. the best and brightest become officials and get to serve the emperor.... wonder who the emperor is going to be, this time....

if marks were not the issue, tuition centres would go out of business.
so being kiasu parents, they subscribe to more tuition, more homework, more enrichment.....more grades...which means scholarship, become an elite official / civil servant and live happily ever after.....

SlimShady:

Well said, but isn't it disgusting to see parents forgetting the joy of bringing up happy children but instead join the rat race and in doing so putting their kids under this tremendous pressure for the self satisfaction of the parents. Basically the parents want to brag about the kids and be praised on how they have done well to bringing up such intelligent kids. But are these kids street smart? Do they have the necessary EQ to outperform the others holistically? Kiasu Parents ask yourself, do you want happy children or just intelligent ones? A happy child will enjoy the learning process..............

It really saddens me to see our children these days. They do not know how to play!

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ME! ME!

(Psst.. verykiasu2010.. i borrow your hand hor. )

I have playful children! Err.. i mean i have children who have time to play.
They are not so intelligent and not so street smart but they ARE happy..
Can? :please:

And oh oh oh.. one more.. my children enjoy the learning process.

[coast]

Chenonceau:

coast:

:snuggles: :hugs:

Hope you feel better now...

:thankyou:

Well, it's my mistake for not putting my point clearly in the first place But my conscience is clear as I never thought that way.

Sorry about the colour coding ... have edited that post