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    Parents, not enrichment centres, are key to result

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    • L Offline
      limlim
      last edited by

      Mychildren:
      <Does anybody else think it strange that as non-educators, we have forced ourselves to learn so much about

      (1) how to do Math
      (2) how to teach Math
      Or is it just me?> by Chenonceau

      I'm not against tuition or enrichment class but I am not willing to part with my husband hard earned $$. I can used this $$ on other things instead which are more meaningful. 🙏
      Based on the comment, I assume you're SAHM..

      Well, if you have the luxury.. of coz.. but for those families which both parents need to struggle to make ends meet.. teaching their kids may not be a viable option for them..

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        Chenonceau
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        ksi:

        Chenon, Chinese standard is low to SAP schools learners and high to non-SAP school learners so I suppose HCL is supposed to make that differentiation of a higher competency student in Chinese and that one allows one to upgrade to a SAP school in sec or remain in a non-SAP school in sec.
        Not quite getting you.

        The same CL paper at PSLE is of low standard when done by SAP learners, but high when done by non-SAP learners? So, if DS is in a non-SAP school and doing badly in Chinese, he will do even worse in PSLE? If DS is in an SAP school and doing badly in Chinese, I needn't worry?

        Something like that?

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          limlim
          last edited by

          insider:
          laughingcat:

          I would used the word to describe her teaching style \"rigid\" and \"authoritative\".


          In my experience, many teachers (and some parents too) are 'rigid' and 'authoritative'. Other than maths, there seems to be only one way to write compo too! Well, KPIs at work. Follow my words, only do this and that, then you will get your A/A*...

          No one tends to feel that being 'rigid' and 'authoritative' is actually easier to teach? then to try and understand each student and their ways and stress out themselves. It boils down to commitment and passion..

          Being rigid is the easy way out..

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            corneyAmber
            last edited by

            Chenonceau:
            ksi:


            Chenon, Chinese standard is low to SAP schools learners and high to non-SAP school learners so I suppose HCL is supposed to make that differentiation of a higher competency student in Chinese and that one allows one to upgrade to a SAP school in sec or remain in a non-SAP school in sec.

            Not quite getting you.

            The same CL paper at PSLE is of low standard when done by SAP learners, but high when done by non-SAP learners? So, if DS is in a non-SAP school and doing badly in Chinese, he will do even worse in PSLE? If DS is in an SAP school and doing badly in Chinese, I needn't worry?

            Something like that?

            I am making a general statement to give you a reason on the perception of why some find it easy, some find it hard which you have deemed as mysterious. The standard taught for CL should be pegged at the non-SAP level for all schools. However, for SAP students whom majority also take HCL, the environment they get is definitely an advantage to harness a stronger competency in the language, hence for the majority SAP kids, CL should not be a major concern for them in the SAP school.

            Now to your question, in non-SAP school, doing badly in CL definitely means a low competency in the language due to lack of environment both at home and in school. In a SAP school, doing badly in CL, DEFINITELY a concern on the contrary since CL is pegged to non-SAP school's standard. By right, the CL competency for a SAP student should be at HCL standard, however, MOE is kind to allow SAP students to drop off HCL and focus on CL only for PSLE if HCL is really not their cup of tea.

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              Chenonceau
              last edited by

              The CL paper in SAP and non-SAP schools are the same level.


              It is the extra training in HCL that gives the SAP students and advantage in CL.

              Yes?

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                Mychildren
                last edited by

                limlim,


                Yes. I am a SAHM with 3 kids, smallest 2 years old. Its not luxury cause I’ve no maid, no car, no grandparents for help. Sick die die also must take care of them unless my husband take leave from work. I’m not the rich type but just can manage type, hanging on and struggling type. Moreover, I don’t trust maid and tuition centre.

                Musings,
                Yes. Chinese textbook not enough. Also assessment books don’t really help and top school exam papers for Chinese doesn’t help too.
                I’m now sourcing for materials to teach my kids in a different way this year. I’m going to change my way of guiding them without what I mentioned on top
                .
                Still figuring and planning. Yet to start so no say now.

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                  Mychildren
                  last edited by

                  I don’t even bother to ask my DSs to do their Hao Peng You.

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                    corneyAmber
                    last edited by

                    Chenonceau:
                    The CL paper in SAP and non-SAP schools are the same level.


                    It is the extra training in HCL that gives the SAP students and advantage in CL.

                    Yes?
                    By right, I see it that way because HCL learns more characters and answers tougher comprehension questions. But I have encountered a few strange cases whereby the kids would do better in HCL than CL, reason given to me was perhaps the HCL paper was shorter....... 🤷 :scratchhead:

                    The prerequisite to opt for doing HCL in a non-SAP school is a good score in CL and this is ASSESSED yearly if one qualifies or not whereas in a SAP school, everyone is auto on HCL until P5 they can choose to drop to CL level. So in a non-SAP school, a child can yo-yo yearly to be in or out of HCL until they reach P5 where it determines whether they could do HCL for PSLE.

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                      Chenonceau
                      last edited by

                      Oh boy… the more you explain… the more blur I get. Don’t tell me the rationale yet. I’m not there yet.


                      I just wanna know (because I am selfish and worried) whether IF DS in SAP school, his CL paper is same difficulty as CL paper in non-SAP… or more difficult. It’s ok if you dunno. I am just trying my luck.

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                        corneyAmber
                        last edited by

                        Chenonceau:
                        Oh boy... the more you explain... the more blur I get. Don't tell me the rationale yet. I'm not there yet.


                        I just wanna know (because I am selfish and worried) whether IF DS in SAP school, his CL paper is same difficulty as CL paper in non-SAP... or more difficult. It's ok if you dunno. I am just trying my luck.
                        From what I see in the past years top school papers, it is higher in standard for SAP school's Chinese paper(naturally so because everyone learns HCL until P5) but that is advantageous because at PSLE they take the same CL paper.

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