Former SCDF and CNB chiefs arrested

[Way2GO]

In d still of last nite,

I thot I heard d Beatles n Roy Orbison sang:

Going on a mystery tour looking for pretty woman
She rode on STE bandwagon for d deals
Then left Tampines Grande for d ‘O’ of Omaha
While 2 scholars were singing ‘C…., u r breaking my heart.”

[HVR]

ksi:

As a business crime, it is certainly not the men's fault alone, the 'pretty woman' has to be convicted as well.

As an EMA, in this case, it is the men who succumbed to temptation and they are accountable to their families, not the 'pretty woman'.

Maybe this is clearer?

So in every EMA it is the man at fault? Simply because they can't resist temptation? The 3rd party, the one who tempt the married man not at fault? They are not called '狐狸精‘ for nothing. Not too long ago women who got themselves involved with married man are deemed despicable. Of course such view is not to be encouraged because we cannot put the blame squarely on a single party. Ok I see that we can never agree on this and so be it. Let's not dwell on it and I agree that it is the man who must account to their family if they strayed. But I do not agree in every EMA it is ONLY the man's fault, or MORE at fault.

[corneyAmber]

HVR:

ksi:

As a business crime, it is certainly not the men's fault alone, the 'pretty woman' has to be convicted as well.

As an EMA, in this case, it is the men who succumbed to temptation and they are accountable to their families, not the 'pretty woman'.

Maybe this is clearer?

So in every EMA it is the man at fault? Simply because they can't resist temptation? The 3rd party, the one who tempt the married man not at fault? They are not called '狐狸精‘ for nothing. Not too long ago women who got themselves involved with married man are deemed despicable. Of course such view is not to be encouraged because we cannot put the blame squarely on a single party. Ok I see that we can never agree on this and so be it. Let's not dwell on it and I agree that it is the man who must account to their family if they strayed. But I do not agree in every EMA it is ONLY the man's fault, or MORE at fault.

You did not see my, in this case, which I have carefully ensured I inserted it. As mentioned, to a family, the one who falls for the temptation will be the accountable one. If a woman falls for the temptation to ruin her family, she will be accountable. It is ok to disagree with me but to me if the one tempted knows how to acknowledge own mistake, this person will find more peace in oneself than always going after others and think oneself is victimized. Having said this, there is only one case where I would agree the \"tempted\" may not be at fault, I.e. when the person is drugged and perceived photos taken of the person intimately with the tempter, then this is purely a frame up. In this case of our 2 chiefs, the men admitted the improper relationship and the woman is single. If she is married too, then she would be at fault as far as her family is concerned. This is my objective view which is ok for you to disagree.

[HVR]

ksi:

HVR:

[quote=\"ksi\"]


As a business crime, it is certainly not the men's fault alone, the 'pretty woman' has to be convicted as well.

As an EMA, in this case, it is the men who succumbed to temptation and they are accountable to their families, not the 'pretty woman'.

Maybe this is clearer?

So in every EMA it is the man at fault? Simply because they can't resist temptation? The 3rd party, the one who tempt the married man not at fault? They are not called '狐狸精‘ for nothing. Not too long ago women who got themselves involved with married man are deemed despicable. Of course such view is not to be encouraged because we cannot put the blame squarely on a single party. Ok I see that we can never agree on this and so be it. Let's not dwell on it and I agree that it is the man who must account to their family if they strayed. But I do not agree in every EMA it is ONLY the man's fault, or MORE at fault.

You did not see my, in this case, which I have carefully ensured I inserted it. As mentioned, to a family, the one who falls for the temptation will be the accountable one. If a woman falls for the temptation to ruin her family, she will be accountable. It is ok to disagree with me but to me if the one tempted knows how to acknowledge own mistake, this person will find more peace in oneself than always going after others and think oneself is victimized. Having said this, there is only one case where I would agree the \"tempted\" may not be at fault, I.e. when the person is drugged and perceived photos taken of the person intimately with the tempter, then this is purely a frame up. In this case of our 2 chiefs, the men admitted the improper relationship and the woman is single. If she is married too, then she would be at fault as far as her family is concerned. This is my objective view which is ok for you to disagree. [/quote]The woman in this case is married to a businessman husband, and she is 36 years old. And I agree with you that she is also equally at fault. If she is single and knowingly going after married man, she cannot be less at fault. In this case, bear in mind she is involved with 2 married man. It speaks volume.

[znzyzyzx]

There is no need to argue who is more at fault because at the end of the day, it depends on from who’s point we are talking. For example, if north korea send a pretty woman to seduce a south korea high official and managed to get sensitive information of south korea , To the north korea , this woman is a hero whereas to the south korean, she is the ‘bad woman’. So who is more "at fault" ? depends on who’s point of view , right ? can the south korean high official said : "she seduced me, she is more at fault." ?


人必自辱而后人辱之。树必自腐而后虫生

[BeContented]

znzyzyzx:

There is no need to argue who is more at fault because at the end of the day, it depends on from who's point we are talking. For example, if north korea send a pretty woman to seduce a south korea high official and managed to get sensitive information of south korea , To the north korea , this woman is a hero whereas to the south korean, she is the 'bad woman'. So who is more \"at fault\" ? depends on who's point of view , right ? can the south korean high official said : \"she seduced me, she is more at fault.\" ?


人必自辱而后人辱之。树必自腐而后虫生

Guess you are right
I like this..... 人必自辱而后人辱之。树必自腐而后虫生

[raysusan]

[quote]Friends and associates of the woman at the centre of the probe involving two top civil servants were shocked to learn that she allegedly slept with both men.


It was all the harder for them to accept as the married woman, 36, had just had a baby about a year ago.

'I was taken aback when I found out it was her, she really didn't seem like the sort,' said a source, who has had business dealings with her. 'It seems she has been leading this double life.'

Sources told The Straits Times that the two senior public servants were not aware that the woman had been intimate with both of them. Both men are married.

Those who know the woman described her as friendly, but did not think she was the flirty sort. But they said she stood out from her women colleagues because of her striking appearance. Associates described her as being tall, slim and with long, wavy hair.

She is believed to have been educated at a local polytechnic and an Australian university, and lives in a condominium in the central part of Singapore.

She is said to be working in an American multinational software company which she joined about six months ago.

She was previously a sales director at a Japanese multinational company, and it is understood that the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) probe is related to her time at this firm, which provides IT storage solutions for businesses and organisations.

The woman, whose husband is a businessman, is believed to have left her previous job at about the time the CPIB investigations began.

A local IT company boss familiar with how sales are done at the woman's previous firm said that sales executives there had to meet clients often, as they were required to provide a lot of after-sales support.

'She would have had a lot of opportunities to meet her clients all the time,' he said.

Ample opportunities for interaction through her job - at dinner parties and other social events - were other ways she could make many acquaintances.

'There's also a lot of travel involved in the position, and it's normal to entertain on the job,' said an IT sales director with 15 years of experience in the industry.

Also, people in such positions are sometimes awarded special bonuses if they hit a certain annual sales target, industry sources said.

The probe involving Mr Peter Lim Sin Pang and Mr Ng Boon Gay, the former chiefs of the Singapore Civil Defence Force and Central Narcotics Bureau respectively, revolves around the tender processes of IT-related products.

It is believed that six other officials from SCDF have also been questioned.

A source told The Straits Times that the woman had been spotted socialising with several of these officials.

The woman's husband, the director of a few companies, declined comment when The Straits Times contacted him on Friday.

There has been little trace of the woman online so far, with Web searches of her name throwing up a blank.

Profiles on social networking site Facebook and LinkedIn are understood to have been removed recently.
[/quote]http://www.straitstimes.com/The-Big-Story/The-Big-Story-3/Story/STIStory_760298.html

[Oppsgal]

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120128-324386.html


Is the woman married and 36 years old, with a kid of 1year old?

Still no photo of her.

[phankao]

Oppsgal:

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120128-324386.html


Is the woman married and 36 years old, with a kid of 1year old?

Still no photo of her.

Farnee lah - some reports say she's divorced for past 10yrs and has 2 kids. And then some say she is still married and just gave birth not long. Very confusing.

[Oppsgal]

phankao:

Oppsgal:

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120128-324386.html


Is the woman married and 36 years old, with a kid of 1year old?

Still no photo of her.

Farnee lah - some reports say she's divorced for past 10yrs and has 2 kids. And then some say she is still married and just gave birth not long. Very confusing.

So definitely have at least a kid?