Parents, not enrichment centres, are key to result
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concern2:
Why can't we use their childhood to do other things instead of academic pursuit? Even if they graduate early, can they be employed or employed by parents who are rich? Children should enjoy learning as it is, not be given incentive to jump grades to enjoy learning. This is parents' incentive for motivation(see their children 'grow' faster), definitely not children. Children are contented as long as learning is fun. Accomplishment is not measured by academic progress alone....... If ONE most important thing to get a child to latch on immediately using the free time they have is to learn the values to bring one from Good to Great. We have too many 'Good's amongst us, in advanced learning and academic pursuit, but 'Great' is rarer than the extinct dodo. :sad:2ppaamm:
I got stoned for it before, so never ever going to bring this up to a minister ever again. :spank:
Can you elaborate on this? I mean - is there any minimum age that a child is allowed to take PSLE? If one can 'jump' grade, then I am sure there is more incentive for children to work so hard. If not, there'll just be mugging and wasting their childhood (in my opinion since grades alone doesn't motivate me). Many kids have the desire to learn, and they are naturally bright. If they could be given a chance to 'move on', imagine how much more they would accomplish - going straight to tertiary education, which is the more interesting part (JMHO) -
Chenonceau:
Oh dear... I did not mean to be sarcastic. I meant myself. I want my kids to do household chores and weed the garden and play like siao with the neighbours making paper guns that look like the real thing.concern2:
[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]
Other parents who want kids to do household chores, weed the garden, rot at home... can then choose to stay IN level and be normal. We cannot all be Einstein, nor do we want to.
You are so sarcastic!
I'm not sarcastic. I want that for my kids. I know if I push them and hothouse them, they'll be able to do well even if standards are high. In another country, they should even be able to skip levels (if I push them) but I dun wanna. The time you channel into academic development is taken away from OTHER areas of development that are not measurable but very important.
It's a choice. Now I have no choice but to hothouse or watch my son FAIL.[/quote]I am certain she is not sarcastic, she is consistent with her views.
As for the line in bold, I sincerely feel that accelerated kids are trading away many other things in life and the sad part is, in most case, parents decide for them. 2ppaamm's case is more exceptional than norm. -
concern2:
Yes, this is along my train of thoughts.Chenonceau:
[quote=\"concern2\"]If P1 students can do P3, P4, or even higher level work, even passing these exams, why aren't they in that level? Why can't they be allowed to graduate earlier, and pursue other things in life?
There are really really bright kids. There really are. There are also parents who WANT this kind of academic acceleration. These kids should be allowed to go up to whatever level they wanna shoot for and can handle... instead of bringing up the standards at every level to chase after these kids.
Even those kids who might not be of einstein substance, if their parents are able to propel them to handle higher level work (which many are doing), what is the reason to stop them? Go to the higher level, learn with the older students who may know as much as you do, and cope at that level.[/quote]i don't quite follow the discussion, but something caught my attention (the part on allowing able kids to go up to whatever level they wanna shoot for and can handle)....ie if MOE decides to let all GEPpers join sec sch without waiting for them to turn 13 or letting them take PSLE cos they cleared GEP's min. set criteria, how many parents will make noise?
hope i didn't take the statement out of context...
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janet_lee88:
It is absolutely crazy that school teachers are not able to help kids pass exams...I am stupid where math is concerned...son flunked maths last year for CA1 and SA1...(p5)...hubby doesn't know how to coach him...if not for my neighbor who recommended math tutor, he would have failed SA2 as well. I just cannot understand why education system has become like this :stompfeet: all the algebra we were once taught can be returned to the teacher since it cannot be used to teach our own kids anymore.
Hi janet,
Have you been dealt with the P5 blow dished out by the school? I read from other forumners that apparently schools are now scaring the wits out of the kids/parents during P5 to make them \"wake up\" and prep. for PSLE!
As for algebra, I thought last time we only learn from secondary school onwards? I like algebra, very useful until this day!
Good that your boy has found the right help and is alright now! -
Jia lat…now GEP not enough…must go accelerated!
Yes, that comment by concern2 was really funny! ke…ke…ke!
Hi 2ppaamm, any idea what will your kids do after graduating at such a young age? -
DesertWind:
kekekek.... just talking about it here. http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31496&p=701845#p701845Jia lat....now GEP not enough....must go accelerated!
Yes, that comment by concern2 was really funny! ke..ke..ke!
Hi 2ppaamm, any idea what will your kids do after graduating at such a young age?
They'll probably do a PhD until 21, then I hope they'lll get married, I also want to have grandchildren ma... -
2ppaamm:
Thanks, 2ppamm! Great that you've started another thread on this! I've always wondered what other parents think of it.
kekekek.... just talking about it here. http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31496&p=701845#p701845 -
Chenonceau:
Mine are normal kids with an abnormal childhood.
Most of us ks parents here have normal kids with abnormal childhood. :siao: that's the fact.
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DesertWind:
heh heh .... and we throw algebra back in the kids when they enter secondary school .... just when they start getting used to models, heuristics, etc ...janet_lee88:
It is absolutely crazy that school teachers are not able to help kids pass exams...I am stupid where math is concerned...son flunked maths last year for CA1 and SA1...(p5)...hubby doesn't know how to coach him...if not for my neighbor who recommended math tutor, he would have failed SA2 as well. I just cannot understand why education system has become like this :stompfeet: all the algebra we were once taught can be returned to the teacher since it cannot be used to teach our own kids anymore.
Hi janet,
Have you been dealt with the P5 blow dished out by the school? I read from other forumners that apparently schools are now scaring the wits out of the kids/parents during P5 to make them \"wake up\" and prep. for PSLE!
As for algebra, I thought last time we only learn from secondary school onwards? I like algebra, very useful until this day!
Good that your boy has found the right help and is alright now! -
Some of these posts are very scary. An ambition to send your children to university at 11 or 14??? Why?
Is education a race?
It is first to finish who wins?
I don’t understand what advantage it is for the child to be the youngest graduate from primary, secondary or university. Surely that would just place that child with other children at completely different stages of physical and mental development, out of sync and under pressure.
Surely the purpose of education is to develop a love of learning and all the skills necessary to continue learning for life?
I would think relentless pressure would turn a child off learning, would effect his or her motivation, desire and enjoyment of life.
But maybe I’m wrong?
I think a parents role (and I have 4 children, 3 of whom have completed university) is to help the child with different thinking and learning strategies, different ways of approaching their learning tasks, finding ways to study and learn that suit their particular ways of thinking, and with access to the best resources.
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