All About Full-Time Maids
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peapot:
Yes Forest, that's why I m beginning to believe my friend that the gov't is not doing anything because they want the citizens to depend less on maids. And that certain Female MP was just helping the gov't to pass the message. Sigh! Don't know what to do!??
This disappoints me alot... Our govt bodies/agencies never seem to have a holistic approach to their governing policies...
One one hand, MCYS encourages singaporeans to give birth.. have more babies.. boost the population... gives higher rebates to working mothers for cc etc... BUT they do encourage parents to take an active role in parenting... if someone is willing to forgo their careers and stay home to be with the kids, why arent they given the same rebates? Are they faulted for wanting to play an active part with their child? Contradicting no?
On the other hand, MOM penalises employers of helpers... thinks more about welfare of FDWs... Yet, now seems to want to make Singaporeans less reliant on FDWs... Doesn't penalise FDWs who run foul or are behaving badly... doesn't control the agencies and let them rule the market..
Can someone tell me, how can these differing policies work hand in hand? If mothers are encouraged to go to work, they will need help both with the kids and at home... If no help at home, mothers can barely have quality time with the kids... It doesnt help in special situations, e.g. kids have sensitive airways, need a clean house... or kids having special diets, or mothers who needs to work night time especially with concalls or need to travel etc...
HAIZ... Don't know what to do also!! As much as I would like to have another child... i am now a bit hesitant cos' am not sure how we can cope either... SIGH.. -
Princess_n_Prince_T:
hi SMH forest,SMH FOREST:
[quote=\"peapot\"]When I return my ex-myanmar maid to agent, they return me the balance loan of $2700. But that maid was transfer out to other employers. This is where the gov't should step in because they can cancel the work permit if they receive bad reviews from employers. But of course, MOM not doing anything. They are concern whether can adapt to life here and interview employers for changing too many maid's. That's why if you have 70% good maid, better to retain her than start all over again.
Your comments in red is so so true... i look back at the last 4 maids i had...
the first, had a fall, had giddy spells and cldn't work... No choice but to return her. The agent transferred her, but within a mth, was sent back (same probs) and agent in the end sent her back to indo...
the second, fili.. came for a week, and decided she didnt wanna work n interact w my boy... asked to go back to agent.
the third, indo, was lazy... just cldn't clean the hse when thats her main task.. and i decided to change her.
the fourth, indo, stole ciggies and smoked... can def not keep her.
if i go for a next maid, MOM will also interview me... is that fair?? i dont think its fair, but of cos MOM don't care.. and can't be bothered if maids are going ard to diff employers due to no fault of the employers themselves... why arent they interviewing maids who change employers frequently?? or even have a system to make agents send bad maids home? sending such bad maids around different employers in sg is really a bad thing to be happening!
same thoughts as you and totally agree with you...i have never heard of MOM interviewing maids that had a frequent change of employers in a year. In MOM 'eyes', I'm a \"bad employer\"... I had changed 4 Indo maids last year and before i can apply for my 5th Indo maid, i had to go for a Employer Orientation Course, if did not attend, WP of 5th maid will not be approved. MOM will really make life difficult for those employers who going to get their 5th maid.. from the point i select my maid (new maid) from biodata to her arriving at my house, it's almost coming to 3 months!
My story:
1st maid (transfer maid): while waiting for my maid to come, after 2 weeks, tell me she don't want to work cos of nagging from my parents
2nd maid (new maid, working experience in Saudi): waited for her for 2 months, after 1 week, she say she don't want to work. this one really attitude... tell her eat breakfast at 6, lunch at either 1 or 2, she can eat breakfast at 10, lunch at 4pm. still can tell me cos this is the timing she eat at Indonesia!
3rd maid (transfer maid, working experience in M'sia): work 3 months, no courtesy at all but we tong cos she can do housework.. final decision to let her go cos she was making phone calls on her mobile in the toilet (door was open) when she's supposed to do housework! what make us angry is that she has passed her hp to agency and she not supposed to have any phone on hand! she lied to us!
4th maid (transfer maid, experience in Saudi), after 1 week, run away to embassy, due to misunderstanding with my mum.
So my conclusion now... to get really new maid, with no oversea working experience... Me now got phobia of maids with experience in Saudi & M'sia. my 5th maid only work in Indo before.. been with me, 1 month plus, so far so good... Yes, really will vomit blood and need to be very patient with new maid when teaching her but i felt that it's the attitude, she still got abit of \"scared\" element in her, being new in a foreign country... having say this, of course, selecting a maid still much depend on luck...[/quote]hi Princess_n_Prince_T,
so, u did go for the MOM thingy ah... i am holding off getting my next maid... see how we can manage w/o a maid... so far, its been tiring... yday night, i even asked my hubby.. what does he think about us holding up w/o one and whether we can get thru it... hahaha, he says for now, maybe ok... but if we wanna have a 2nd child, mayb an issue again...
actually, even now, without a 2nd child.. i am already not able to spend night time reading or playing with my boy... and he is such a needy boy.. the poor kid sat on a stool in the kitchen watching me, whining away, when i was washing up the past 2 nights.. DIAO... we are also monitoring to see how he can cope with a dustier home, becos he is childhood asthmatic...
:xedfingers: let's hope things pans out well... -
Hi forest, do u know that is exactly the real reason why I don’t want to have 2nd child?!!! I have zero support at home and my inlaws all passed away, my own parents are working. I m not even asking for financial help from the gov’t BUT just tweak the policy so that we can work with peace of mind.
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Princess_n_Prince_T:
SMH FOREST:
[quote=\"peapot\"]When I return my ex-myanmar maid to agent, they return me the balance loan of $2700. But that maid was transfer out to other employers. This is where the gov't should step in because they can cancel the work permit if they receive bad reviews from employers. But of course, MOM not doing anything. They are concern whether can adapt to life here and interview employers for changing too many maid's. That's why if you have 70% good maid, better to retain her than start all over again.
Your comments in red is so so true... i look back at the last 4 maids i had...
the first, had a fall, had giddy spells and cldn't work... No choice but to return her. The agent transferred her, but within a mth, was sent back (same probs) and agent in the end sent her back to indo...
the second, fili.. came for a week, and decided she didnt wanna work n interact w my boy... asked to go back to agent.
the third, indo, was lazy... just cldn't clean the hse when thats her main task.. and i decided to change her.
the fourth, indo, stole ciggies and smoked... can def not keep her.
if i go for a next maid, MOM will also interview me... is that fair?? i dont think its fair, but of cos MOM don't care.. and can't be bothered if maids are going ard to diff employers due to no fault of the employers themselves... why arent they interviewing maids who change employers frequently?? or even have a system to make agents send bad maids home? sending such bad maids around different employers in sg is really a bad thing to be happening!
hi SMH forest,
same thoughts as you and totally agree with you...i have never heard of MOM interviewing maids that had a frequent change of employers in a year. In MOM 'eyes', I'm a \"bad employer\"... I had changed 4 Indo maids last year and before i can apply for my 5th Indo maid, i had to go for a Employer Orientation Course, if did not attend, WP of 5th maid will not be approved. MOM will really make life difficult for those employers who going to get their 5th maid.. from the point i select my maid (new maid) from biodata to her arriving at my house, it's almost coming to 3 months!
My story:
1st maid (transfer maid): while waiting for my maid to come, after 2 weeks, tell me she don't want to work cos of nagging from my parents
2nd maid (new maid, working experience in Saudi): waited for her for 2 months, after 1 week, she say she don't want to work. this one really attitude... tell her eat breakfast at 6, lunch at either 1 or 2, she can eat breakfast at 10, lunch at 4pm. still can tell me cos this is the timing she eat at Indonesia!
3rd maid (transfer maid, working experience in M'sia): work 3 months, no courtesy at all but we tong cos she can do housework.. final decision to let her go cos she was making phone calls on her mobile in the toilet (door was open) when she's supposed to do housework! what make us angry is that she has passed her hp to agency and she not supposed to have any phone on hand! she lied to us!
4th maid (transfer maid, experience in Saudi), after 1 week, run away to embassy, due to misunderstanding with my mum.
So my conclusion now... to get really new maid, with no oversea working experience... Me now got phobia of maids with experience in Saudi & M'sia. my 5th maid only work in Indo before.. been with me, 1 month plus, so far so good... Yes, really will vomit blood and need to be very patient with new maid when teaching her but i felt that it's the attitude, she still got abit of \"scared\" element in her, being new in a foreign country... having say this, of course, selecting a maid still much depend on luck...[/quote]Dear all,
I have changed 2 after my 1st maid back to Indonesia for good in last Sept:
1st maid:
Biodata indicated 2 years exp in Indo as housemaid; looking after 2 boys aged 6 & 9. Took her because she met my criteria. 3rd day with me told me she has NO experience as a maid, only Cashier experience as Indo agency asked her to lie. I told her I am fine to take her if she willing to learn and pick up fast, she said ok BUT attitude changed after 2nd week... A) everyday DH and I would stressed up what she's gonna cook for kids for dinner (2 DDs in CC); B) does not know how to handle kids; C) or dont eat what she has cooked for us and keep telling us she's not hungry; D) keep all the unfinished food in the freight for days; E) Lie to us to throw rubbish but went out to buy bread and instant noodle and claimed she thinks that I am not happy that she eat my food :stompfeet:
Current maid: Ex-sg maid, worked for 4 years; came back after 1.5 years. A) Told us she can cook many local food and make good soup. We were desperate so we took her (we prefer exp in Indo and not ex-sg maid), after taking her she said she seldom cook and x-employer (man) did himself!! B) Her biodata never indicate that she ever went thru operation (for thyroid and we only found out just before MOM issue us her WP as we need to sign a B/W that knowing she has thyroid and would still employ her!!! Do I have a choice? :xedfingers: her thyroid will not relapsed.. I am wondering... this medical report... should it be shown to us by maid agency after their medical test?? :siao:
C) changed 2 expensive items :moneyflies: after she came to our house i) water heater and ii) washing machine : DH & I still 'convinced' ourself that the items have been used for 5+ years, lifespend is up... who knows just before CNY, she dropped and broke my $188 Korean pan's handle (much before HPC pan was out in the market) and never dare to come to me to say sorry!! I have to go to her and asked for it :mad: !
and many other incidents on CNY very 1st day that made DH v angry; luckily I told DH beforehand, I will not be bringing her to my mom's place on CNY 2nd day since she dont help much and I still have to LOOK AFTER HER meal! :slapshead:
Met a friend during lunch, she suggested that I should change...
Your advise please.... -
Hi mng_kl,
So sorry to hear your problem. That reminded me, when my 1st indonesia maid went home 6yrs back. My 2nd indo maid told me she has working exp in jkt and speak fair english over the phone when interviewed. When she came, she can’t even understand Malay not mentioned abt english. She can only speak her javanese. Obviously, the person that we interviewed not her real person. We sent her back to agent and get another replacement. The maid claimed that she has working experience in Malaysia for 2 yrs looking after 3 children, cooking & housekeeping. We took her and when she came, we noticed that she don seem to have the experience at all. Then found out, instead of looking after 3 children, she was looking after 3 dogs and cook for dogs. Oh dear, we were so mad and told her we will send her back to agent. B4 the daybreak, she ran away to indo embassy and reported agent beat her and wanted to go back. For nothing, we got to pay for her ticket home, and of course we claimed that amount from agent.
After the bad experience of indo maid, we changed to filipino. This maid decided not to renew contract as she has been 4 yrs here and wanted to go home to reunion with her children, so giving me attitude problem. Luckily, my new maid is coming soon. Hopefully, the new maid turn out good. -
minnie:
Hi Minnie,Hi mng_kl,
So sorry to hear your problem. That reminded me, when my 1st indonesia maid went home 6yrs back. My 2nd indo maid told me she has working exp in jkt and speak fair english over the phone when interviewed. When she came, she can't even understand Malay not mentioned abt english. She can only speak her javanese. Obviously, the person that we interviewed not her real person. We sent her back to agent and get another replacement. The maid claimed that she has working experience in Malaysia for 2 yrs looking after 3 children, cooking & housekeeping. We took her and when she came, we noticed that she don seem to have the experience at all. Then found out, instead of looking after 3 children, she was looking after 3 dogs and cook for dogs. Oh dear, we were so mad and told her we will send her back to agent. B4 the daybreak, she ran away to indo embassy and reported agent beat her and wanted to go back. For nothing, we got to pay for her ticket home, and of course we claimed that amount from agent.
After the bad experience of indo maid, we changed to filipino. This maid decided not to renew contract as she has been 4 yrs here and wanted to go home to reunion with her children, so giving me attitude problem. Luckily, my new maid is coming soon. Hopefully, the new maid turn out good.
Maybe our lousy maids are from the same agency (mine @ Toa Payoh) :evil: .
Here wishing you good luck for your new coming maid
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peapot:
Fire her! Get another maid. The lies are very clear cut that she's not interested to work for u.
Went down to agency yesterday to select the new maid.... -
my maid in her thrid year with me, today do body check up… got to do xray and HIV test… anyone know is that mean every 6 months she need to do xray or just once a year ?
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Hi …
Can I check if can we set a time for them to return home during their off day. If yes, do u feel this timing reasonable. 11am to 5pm
Regards -
Mine go 9am-6pm.
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