Worried parents taking children to psychologists
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2ppaamm:
I think Annabelle Cheong is a different. The main objection was her father as he was a hypocrite. He was very strict with her, and she was a top scholar. He was proper and upright outside but at home, he would watch porn. I think quite different leh...[/quote]oh really? So it was something underlying over some years... I thought the common story was that she was gang-raped in London and something snapped thereafter. but ok... :offtopic:vicki:
[quote=\"ksi\"]Has anyone noticed? The most gan cheong or worried parents are usually teachers so they teach their kids many years ahead and the kids become advanced kids....then they become bored in class.....then they have issues.........then....... Amongst my teachers friends, it is 100% true.
The infamous 'Annabelle Cheong' comes to mind when u mention the abv! -
2ppaamm:
Have you put him on the keyboard, as in computer keyboard? Can he type simple things you ask him to, like simple words or just alphabets you ask?[/quote]
i must admit it has come to a point where i will yell at him and screamed at him :stompfeet: , it will make him so fearful of holding a pencil. It comes to a point whereby i know i cannot continue to teach him and my hubby has to take over. My hubby is quite kancheong but at least he can start off well with my son and i have to learn along side with my hubby on how to encourgage him.larkspur:
[quote=\"Chenonceaularkspur... I dunno if this helps but no matter how depressed you are, dun let the kid know... and dun yell at the Teacher. Teachers have said all sorts of things about my son. I never argue with them. They have their viewpoint, and it is their job to alert parents. I usually will smile and say \"thank you\".
Meanwhile, I consider that I know my kids best and I trust my own judgment. Sometimes, I agree that something needs to be done. Other times, I know that I just have to tweak with Teacher's mental models. As far as possible, I try to bridge the divide between my kid and his Teacher so that their relationship can move smoothly.
At times when I agree that something needs to be done, I also won't tell my kid. I will quietly read up and do what needs to be done without specifically explaining. The kids don't care... and the kids dun need to care. My son was slow to write too. The muscle co-ordination in his hands was poor. I told him that it was normal and that I hadn't ever met a grown up man who couldn't write... and that he would learn in time. We did a lot of writing in the playground sand with a stick because he couldn't control his fingers well.
Is it muscle control? If so, some finger exercises perhaps?
My teachers at childcare told me to let my son do some simple housework like picking up toys, keeping books and playing with dough but does not help much. i never agrue with the teachers but imagine how depressing it is when my girl comes home and tells me that (last year my girl still in childcare during dec )her brother is the only one who cannot write and his classmates can. So i have 3 people telling me about my son: my girl, the chinese teacher and the english teacher.Maybe i think it would be good for me to get him checked up at least if i know he might need help and have to learn to be patient with him.
no i have never put him on any computer keyboards nor ask him to type out simple words. He can recognised alphabets and can read by himself. Just problems with writing. maybe i will try out asking him to do simple typing but how does it suppose to help? -
LadyInBlack:
whoa..take it easy pple! we shall not argue over what teachers do and dont do for their children..like mentioned earlier..we ought to keep to the topic!
The topic should also be \"Teachers are causing worried parents to take children to psychologists!\" :faint: Did somebody just said teachers don't have the power ie. the weakest in the system? They can get your kids kicked out, how much more powerful you want? :? -
2ppaamm:
I can see, so don't worry about it. :hugs:[/quote] :hi5: :hugs:
Again you missed my point by several kilometres, the fact you cannot see I am on topic.ksi:
[quote=\"buds\"]I'm sure i didn't.
Sometimes people write what they feel strongly abt and may not realize how it is being read/perceived and while it may not be how the writer intended it to be. It takes great reflection to look back or read back at what was written... ( and boi there are plenty!!! )... btwn the lines or on the dot.
Aniwaes, the thread is also abt taking children to psychologists leh. Let's not again go into teachers. As a mod, it is also a responsibility to keep to topic right? :evil: Cos by asking for other parents' experience with \"such teachers you've had so many experiences with\"... it WILL rally on & spiral into the oh well... teacher talk again.
Now let's get back to the thread at hand. :rubhands:
Discuss issues. Enough abt people. Teachers included. :please:
It is ok to agree to disagree. -
2ppaamm:
oic....... tanks tanks. terminology \"number bond\" is so cheem... almost like chem.toddles:
Here I am freaking out and you laff at me some more... *weeps*
Ok, ok, I'm going to teach you instead:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVlnl5PSr_4][/youtube] -
toddles:
I completely agree with Chenon, I always tell my child most people pull the ear directly with their hand on the same side but there is no stopping her to pull the ear on the opposite with the same hand. Yes it takes a longer way but she will still achieve the same thing, pull ear. My child does not write early and does not write well. If I can find the old stuff she has written in the past and her current handwriting now...you will see that there is hope. So please continue to have hope for your child and do not let anyone tell you otherwise.
That is so cute!! Like he has superhero powers.Chenonceau:
Break down your expectations. It'll be easier for you to be happy for your son. Being happy for your son will encourage him. If writing is a problem, then work first on alphabet recognition. Sit on the floor where there are square floor tiles. Get a jar of broad beans or pebbles. Get him to form letters in the squares by lining up the beans. Praise him and tell him he's so very smart... and that other children can only write, but he can write with BEANS. Give him a sense of pride. This will motivate him. Do silly things like try and spit on a trail of ants so that they form a letter \"a\".
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toddles:
oh really? So it was something underlying over some years... I thought the common story was that she was gang-raped in London and something snapped thereafter. but ok... :offtopic:[/quote]It was my friend who told me about Grace Quek. Annabelle is already died. They were classmates in HC. Her fascination started the gang rape. I know, :offtopic:
I think Annabelle Cheong is a different. The main objection was her father as he was a hypocrite. He was very strict with her, and she was a top scholar. He was proper and upright outside but at home, he would watch porn. I think quite different leh...2ppaamm:
[quote=\"vicki\"]
The infamous 'Annabelle Cheong' comes to mind when u mention the abv! -
michyms:
How far up the ladder can a parent go? All throughout the primary level? Already I am reading that a graduate parent could not even do a P4 Maths question. Or we are using a completely different methodoloy from what the school/PSLE wants. That's why my last comment \"If this is indeed a doable alternative...\".DesertWind:
I am beginning to think it is a good idea actually to escape the system and do home-schooling instead. Home-schooling used to be such an alien concept to me but given the current SG schooling environment, those who can't catch up risk getting \"labeled\" by psychologist. Now I can understand why some would choose to escape all the \"hype\" and \"noise\" of the school environment and do home-schooling. If this is indeed a doable alternative....
This is indeed a good option, to allow the kid to learn at his/her own pace. The only issue is that they still have to face the dreaded PSLE exams at the end of the day, but at least allows the parent the time and flexibility in choosing a method and pace to prepare the kid for it. It takes a dedicated and patient parent to be able to do it. -
Chenonceau:
i have great comfort to hear about ways i can help my son. As for spit, are you referring to ka pui(saliva)? i think with all your methods above, think the beany thingy more suitable and using a stick to write on sand except that must go and find sand first
I completely understand how you feel. My son's Chinese is awful. When I read what other children can write, I stress. Then I told him. I don't care what other kids can do. You and I, we are gonna do the best we can. Then we started Potato Chinese http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/content/learning-chinese-potato-way. Every little chunk memorized was an excuse for a jig. I tell my son that his Chinese sucks. It ain't his fault. It's mine 'cos I am a potato and he is a potato's son. My shoulders are broad and wide. I can shoulder the blame for his failings for a while still. Then I tell him that he has to overcome my failings and make it good on his own. And my son will try... and try... and try until 10pm at night when I have to force him to stop. He will wanna try on Sundays and I have to forbid it.larkspur:
i must admit it has come to a point where i will yell at him and screamed at him :stompfeet: , it will make him so fearful of holding a pencil. It comes to a point whereby i know i cannot continue to teach him and my hubby has to take over. My hubby is quite kancheong but at least he can start off well with my son and i have to learn along side with my hubby on how to encourgage him.
My teachers at childcare told me to let my son do some simple housework like picking up toys, keeping books and playing with dough but does not help much. i never agrue with the teachers but imagine how depressing it is when my girl comes home and tells me that (last year my girl still in childcare during dec )her brother is the only one who cannot write and his classmates can. So i have 3 people telling me about my son: my girl, the chinese teacher and the english teacher.Maybe i think it would be good for me to get him checked up at least if i know he might need help and have to learn to be patient with him.
Nothing that's worth doing is easy. Help him be persistent by being very encouraging... and in the process your bond with him will strengthen.
Break down your expectations. It'll be easier for you to be happy for your son. Being happy for your son will encourage him. If writing is a problem, then work first on alphabet recognition. Sit on the floor where there are square floor tiles. Get a jar of broad beans or pebbles. Get him to form letters in the squares by lining up the beans. Praise him and tell him he's so very smart... and that other children can only write, but he can write with BEANS. Give him a sense of pride. This will motivate him. Do silly things like try and spit on a trail of ants so that they form a letter \"a\" or \"b\" or \"c\". We did that... the most difficult thing was to find enough spit.
After that, give him a big stick to write in the sand... or a big piece of mahjong paper and a paintbrush. One piece mahjong paper... one letter. Can write is can write what... who cares what you write with and who cares how big you write. Once he has developed some comfort and has enough giggling about writing then his muscle control may have developed enough to hold a pencil? Oh... you can also write on each other. Offer your stomach or your back. Write on HIS stomach and his back. Use soap lather to form letters on each others' bodies (but of course, only if you bathe with him lah... if you're not that sort then don't do this).
Your son is special. Every weakness is special. My son is a gong-gong. But I love his gong-gongness and I tell that that is what makes him special. Make your child feel special and he will expend every effort to stay special in your eyes.
It's easier for another parent to say all these... I am not in your situation. You know your situation best, however. I'm just being kaypoh into something I know little about. Forgive.
but i guess i will still send him for assessment first since with a referral letter from polyclinic to go for assessment in KKH is still cheaper.
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2ppaamm:
It was my friend who told me about Grace Quek. Annabelle is already died. They were classmates in HC. Her fascination started the gang rape. I know, :offtopic:
yeah... i know various ppl who knew her too. principal chased her and her filming team off the school grounds when they came. we were in an LT and the guys were like, whoa, guess who's here!
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