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    ‘Unless we have more babies, we need to accept immigrants’

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      concern2
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      Canvas:
      To be honest, I no longer listen when Mr Lee Kuan Yew speaks these days.

      I thought I saw somewhere that his reason had been changed to boosting the population of Chinese in Singapore. :roll:

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        Canvas
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        concern2:
        Canvas:

        To be honest, I no longer listen when Mr Lee Kuan Yew speaks these days.


        I thought I saw somewhere that his reason had been changed to boosting the population of Chinese in Singapore. :roll:

        He says it best, when he says nothing at all. *resisting not to sing* 😂

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          corneyAmber
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          Canvas:
          To be honest, I no longer listen when Mr Lee Kuan Yew speaks these days.


          It is ok not to listen to him talking these days but it is imperative to understand his worry and concern. He may not have prescribed the \"right\" solutions or it is the execution that is wrong(since he does not do the execution) but his ability to envision the potential threats and issues is still valid.

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            concern2
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            Canvas:
            concern2:

            [quote=\"Canvas\"]To be honest, I no longer listen when Mr Lee Kuan Yew speaks these days.


            I thought I saw somewhere that his reason had been changed to boosting the population of Chinese in Singapore. :roll:

            He says it best, when he says nothing at all. *resisting not to sing* 😂[/quote] :rotflmao:
            ksi:
            It is ok not to listen to him talking these days but it is imperative to understand his worry and concern. He may not have prescribed the \"right\" solutions or it is the execution that is wrong(since he does not do the execution) but his ability to envision the potential threats and issues is still valid.
            You are right ksi. He's grandpa - listening to grandpa's on-going advice may sound like a nag sometimes, but it is amazing how this grandpa is still able to raise eyebrows with the things he says :salute: I like his spirits. We will probably see less and less of people like him - until such time there's a real crisis, I suppose, then new heroes emerge...

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              pinky
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              Canvas:
              hquek:

              Well, if we accept immigrants, it doesn't mean they have more kids. Those that get pr or citizenship around me also have one kid. And then they bring their aged folks with themto take care of the kid.


              So for that one child, we get extra 2 old people, 2 middle aged people. Ummm, like that how will the population stay young?

              It is exactly the case. LOL!

              Someone I knew, a PRC married to a local man after only 2 meetings, told me she is just waiting for her irritating (in her words) MIL to die and then she will make her husband sell the flat, give her the money, apply for a new flat and then rent the flat out while they live like the Royals back in China. And no, she is not going to have anymore Sg kids to help our declining birth rate.

              wow, very grand plan and wonder what is the husband's opinion (if he is
              able to utter any)

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                phankao
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                pinky:
                Canvas:

                [quote=\"hquek\"]Well, if we accept immigrants, it doesn't mean they have more kids. Those that get pr or citizenship around me also have one kid. And then they bring their aged folks with themto take care of the kid.


                So for that one child, we get extra 2 old people, 2 middle aged people. Ummm, like that how will the population stay young?

                It is exactly the case. LOL!

                Someone I knew, a PRC married to a local man after only 2 meetings, told me she is just waiting for her irritating (in her words) MIL to die and then she will make her husband sell the flat, give her the money, apply for a new flat and then rent the flat out while they live like the Royals back in China. And no, she is not going to have anymore Sg kids to help our declining birth rate.

                wow, very grand plan and wonder what is the husband's opinion (if he is
                able to utter any)[/quote]Must wait how long, har? What if MIL live past 100?

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                  verykiasu2010
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                  http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_766146.html


                  MOSCOW (AFP) - Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on Monday vowed to reverse Russia's demographic decline and boost its population to 154 million, as he ramped up his re-election campaign in the face of protests.

                  In a new campaign article addressing his core constituency including employees of state companies and blue-collar workers, Mr Putin also promised salary hikes to teachers and doctors and pledged to create a more just state.

                  Mr Putin reeled off a list of social policies that he said could reverse a demographic decline and boost Russia's current population that has now dwindled to nearly 143 million and which he said risked falling to just 107 million.

                  'In a global sense we are facing the risk of turning into an 'empty space' whose fate will not be decided by us,' Mr Putin said in an article published on his campaign website.

                  143 million people also people no enough

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                    Vino Chia
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                    krazy:
                    Declining birth rate?


                    even if Singaporeans give birth to 4 children now, it will still take a good 25 years before these children grow up and make themselves useful to society. Meanwhile what happens in these 25 years?

                    It is just nonsensical to point fingers at declining birth rates. The government wants these numbers immediately; not wait for 25 years.

                    We; some 25-35 years ago, when we were born; weren't our parents told to stop at 2?
                    Its very true about what you say. No matter what the amount is, it will only make a different many many years down the road.

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                      Daddy D
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                      \"Singapore’s downward trend of population growth is damaging to its economy, said former prime minister Lee Kuan Yew on Friday.

                      The broadsheet also reported that Lee compared Singapore’s economy to that of Japan’s, saying that their resistance to receiving immigrants has resulted in stagnation in its economy.\"

                      Just to recap from page 1...
                      Why is it a problem to have stagnation in economy?
                      If increase population just for higher GDP... I rather we follow Japan.
                      :?

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                        3Boys
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                        Daddy 😧

                        Why is it a problem to have stagnation in economy?
                        If increase population just for higher GDP... I rather we follow Japan.
                        :?
                        How about the Japan of 30 years from now? How about the tax burden and economic growth in your children's era?

                        Follow Japan to the future? Not for me.

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