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    • 2 Offline
      2ppaamm
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      Yep i think we need a mod to move some of these to homeschooling thread.

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        linden2000
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        chamonix:

        Perhaps, it is us, the adults, who choose to look at things with a complicated mind?


        This is how my daughter solved the problem -

        30 - 6 = 24
        24 - 4 = 20

        20 - 6 = 14
        14 - 4 = 10

        10 - 6 = 4
        4 - 4 = 0

        There are 3 animals in each basket.
        Yes, perhaps we adults think too complicated. 😄
        She is literally distributing 1 animal into each basket and since no more animals left after 3 rounds, there are 3 in each basket.

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          Winnie Yong
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          Poor kids…Why they make life so difficult for them

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            corneyAmber
            last edited by

            2ppaamm:
            Yep i think we need a mod to move some of these to homeschooling thread.

            Homeschooling discussion is found here: http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=25139

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              iwant
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              Hi all, i am new but hv been a hardworking reader in KSP for q sometimes. Like to say a BIG THANK YOU for getting me through each challenge with my 3dd and mil.


              larkspur,
              I like to share with on my experience with dd2, she was attending PAP childcare but managed by local big name pre school from N2 to early k1. In k1, dd couldn’t write, it was hell…yes, lots of screaming, shouting and even thot of throwing dd down the window.

              Principal urged me to send dd for assessment, want me to take dd home by 3pm everyday, so i can practise writing with her and even suggest me to repeat dd in N2 instead of going on to K1. Both her english and chinese teachers were of no help, they cold storage her. I requested them to dot the letter or chinese word for dd to trace, slapped on my face “dot what dot, everyone already can write” send her to mindstretcher k1 preparation class… got kick out by the teacher… really “no road to go” and feeling soooo helpless… KSP saved me… THANK YOU!

              Yes we went to kkh, doctor diagnosed her global delay…assigned dd for literacy and OT therapy. We attend 5 session of literacy therapy, it was great but have to wait for another 2-3 months for next round of therapy… q ineffective. Whereas OT, i rather go gymnastic.

              Dd k2 this year and she can write, with challenges at every stage. And i suspect dd is having “visual-motor integration” is required for writing, copying, it is like using non-dominant hand to write, spacing and visual tracking…

              These are what i do :

              Stage One:
              to make writing easy, use big square exercise books :

              1 book for number 1 to 10
              1 book for Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd
              1 book for chinese basic strokes
              (occassionally i stop chinese, as it is too much to cope)

              You need to pre-write all the letter and let your boy trace, keep tracing, make it daily work with manageable quantity.

              After sometime, you can test him if he can write those without tracing.

              Stage two :
              use big single line exercise book:

              start with small word ie, big, good
              to make peaceful for everyone, let him trace – if ok – freehand

              Once ok, move to longer word ie chocolate – same let him trace 1st then freehand

              Stage three:
              use 3 lines writing exercise book, this is very tough for my dd, ever thot to give up but seeing her letter floating everywhere, we challenge on, now she writing are less floating and much neater.

              Start with short sentence– ie, I am happy.
              note draw vertical line inbetween the words, my dd couldn’t give spacing after each words – I | am | happy. Then move to longer sentence.

              For chinese, totally can’t write in k1, until early k2, she can visual and write , slow and not so pretty, enuf for me. She attends enrichment with tien hsia, teacher is very caring and helpful, she survives ting xie…

              OH Yes, last week, we sent dd to kkh for p1 readiness test/IQ test, oh… if i can turn back the clock i will not waste my time and $$.

              There is no warm up and q robotic.
              Basically, they test dd on spelling ie, chair, up, big and etc, number recogition 1-10, counting 1-20, words recognition – was, he, she, the and etc, some visual game, and question asking such as :

              what is hero
              what is castle
              what is glow
              what does shoe made of
              what is opposite of south
              what is a tree
              what is a leave
              what do you use to chew
              what do you need to bake a cake
              what are the colors in the rainbow
              what is that room for cooking
              where does milk come from
              and …

              anyway, the conclusion given is dd doesn’t need to go special school and will struggle in mainstream…

              No one can tell me what is wrong with dd…but i feel strongly the main responsibilty is on my shoulders… now she is with Wonderful kindi with great principal and teachers, they are my great pillar… fear already kicking in - come next year - p1…

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                metz
                last edited by

                Oppsgal:
                chamonix:


                Perhaps, it is us, the adults, who choose to look at things with a complicated mind?


                This is how my daughter solved the problem -

                30 - 6 = 24
                24 - 4 = 20

                20 - 6 = 14
                14 - 4 = 10

                10 - 6 = 4
                4 - 4 = 0


                There are 3 animals in each basket.

                Don't understand what her working is about...

                You are not alone. At first, I couldn't too :rotflmao:

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                  metz
                  last edited by

                  linden2000:
                  chamonix:


                  Perhaps, it is us, the adults, who choose to look at things with a complicated mind?


                  This is how my daughter solved the problem -

                  30 - 6 = 24
                  24 - 4 = 20

                  20 - 6 = 14
                  14 - 4 = 10

                  10 - 6 = 4
                  4 - 4 = 0

                  There are 3 animals in each basket.

                  Yes, perhaps we adults think too complicated. 😄
                  She is literally distributing 1 animal into each basket and since no more animals left after 3 rounds, there are 3 in each basket.

                  You are good! It only dawned on me the next day what she was doing. Now, I can literally see her putting the chickens and ducks into their respective baskets, haha... Sometimes, maths can be full of fun too. :rotflmao:

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                    metz
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                    iwant:



                    For chinese, totally can't write in k1, until early k2, she can visual and write , slow and not so pretty, enuf for me. She attends enrichment with tien hsia, teacher is very caring and helpful, she survives ting xie...

                    OH Yes, last week, we sent dd to kkh for p1 readiness test/IQ test, oh... if i can turn back the clock i will not waste my time and $$.

                    There is no warm up and q robotic.
                    Basically, they test dd on spelling ie, chair, up, big and etc, number recogition 1-10, counting 1-20, words recognition – was, he, she, the and etc, some visual game, and question asking such as :

                    what is hero
                    what is castle
                    what is glow
                    what does shoe made of
                    what is opposite of south
                    what is a tree
                    what is a leave
                    what do you use to chew
                    what do you need to bake a cake
                    what are the colors in the rainbow
                    what is that room for cooking
                    where does milk come from
                    and .....


                    anyway, the conclusion given is dd doesn't need to go special school and will struggle in mainstream.....

                    No one can tell me what is wrong with dd...but i feel strongly the main responsibilty is on my shoulders.... now she is with Wonderful kindi with great principal and teachers, they are my great pillar....... fear already kicking in - come next year - p1.....

                    Hi want,

                    It's really sad to read about your girl's experience with her preschool and enrichment centre. Just to let you know, it is not a norm that kids are expected to spell words (be it English or Chinese) at K1 or even K2. My son never had any spelling or Ting Xie during his preschool days. I'm really surprised your girl was even tested for spelling during assessment. Btw, there is minimal Chinese words Ting Xie during the first semester in P1. So, don't give yourself unnecessary fears. Have faith and trust in your girl and yourself that you will cross this hurdle together. :snuggles:

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                      Chenonceau
                      last edited by

                      iwant:
                      Hi all, i am new but hv been a hardworking reader in KSP for q sometimes. Like to say a BIG THANK YOU for getting me through each challenge with my 3dd and mil.


                      larkspur,
                      I like to share with on my experience with dd2, she was attending PAP childcare but managed by local big name pre school from N2 to early k1. In k1, dd couldn't write, it was hell...yes, lots of screaming, shouting and even thot of throwing dd down the window.

                      Principal urged me to send dd for assessment, want me to take dd home by 3pm everyday, so i can practise writing with her and even suggest me to repeat dd in N2 instead of going on to K1. Both her english and chinese teachers were of no help, they cold storage her. I requested them to dot the letter or chinese word for dd to trace, slapped on my face “dot what dot, everyone already can write” send her to mindstretcher k1 preparation class.... got kick out by the teacher.... really “no road to go” and feeling soooo helpless..... KSP saved me... THANK YOU!

                      Yes we went to kkh, doctor diagnosed her global delay..assigned dd for literacy and OT therapy. We attend 5 session of literacy therapy, it was great but have to wait for another 2-3 months for next round of therapy... q ineffective. Whereas OT, i rather go gymnastic.

                      Dd k2 this year and she can write, with challenges at every stage. And i suspect dd is having “visual-motor integration” is required for writing, copying, it is like using non-dominant hand to write, spacing and visual tracking....

                      These are what i do :

                      Stage One:
                      to make writing easy, use big square exercise books :

                      1 book for number 1 to 10
                      1 book for Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd
                      1 book for chinese basic strokes
                      (occassionally i stop chinese, as it is too much to cope)

                      You need to pre-write all the letter and let your boy trace, keep tracing, make it daily work with manageable quantity.

                      After sometime, you can test him if he can write those without tracing.

                      Stage two :
                      use big single line exercise book:

                      start with small word ie, big, good
                      to make peaceful for everyone, let him trace – if ok – freehand

                      Once ok, move to longer word ie chocolate – same let him trace 1st then freehand

                      Stage three:
                      use 3 lines writing exercise book, this is very tough for my dd, ever thot to give up but seeing her letter floating everywhere, we challenge on, now she writing are less floating and much neater.

                      Start with short sentence– ie, I am happy.
                      note draw vertical line inbetween the words, my dd couldn't give spacing after each words – I | am | happy. Then move to longer sentence.

                      For chinese, totally can't write in k1, until early k2, she can visual and write , slow and not so pretty, enuf for me. She attends enrichment with tien hsia, teacher is very caring and helpful, she survives ting xie...

                      OH Yes, last week, we sent dd to kkh for p1 readiness test/IQ test, oh... if i can turn back the clock i will not waste my time and $$.

                      There is no warm up and q robotic.
                      Basically, they test dd on spelling ie, chair, up, big and etc, number recogition 1-10, counting 1-20, words recognition – was, he, she, the and etc, some visual game, and question asking such as :

                      what is hero
                      what is castle
                      what is glow
                      what does shoe made of
                      what is opposite of south
                      what is a tree
                      what is a leave
                      what do you use to chew
                      what do you need to bake a cake
                      what are the colors in the rainbow
                      what is that room for cooking
                      where does milk come from
                      and .....

                      anyway, the conclusion given is dd doesn't need to go special school and will struggle in mainstream.....

                      No one can tell me what is wrong with dd...but i feel strongly the main responsibilty is on my shoulders.... now she is with Wonderful kindi with great principal and teachers, they are my great pillar....... fear already kicking in - come next year - p1.....
                      This is valuable sharing!! I don't need it anymore but I'm glad I learnt something. :thankyou:

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                        corneyAmber
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                        iwant, just to share with you, my child did zero spelling and zero ting xie prior to P1. Her preschool was the fun n play all day for 3 hours. Even in her Chinese enrichment during preschool, ting xie was unheard of but she coped very well in P1. So sometimes I wonder why the expectation to know spelling n ting xie has been brought down to nursery n k1 level these days? My child is not that old, 3+ yrs away from her preschool years only. :faint:

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