Worried parents taking children to psychologists
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Poor kids…Why they make life so difficult for them
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2ppaamm:
Yep i think we need a mod to move some of these to homeschooling thread.
Homeschooling discussion is found here: http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=25139 -
Hi all, i am new but hv been a hardworking reader in KSP for q sometimes. Like to say a BIG THANK YOU for getting me through each challenge with my 3dd and mil.
larkspur,
I like to share with on my experience with dd2, she was attending PAP childcare but managed by local big name pre school from N2 to early k1. In k1, dd couldn’t write, it was hell…yes, lots of screaming, shouting and even thot of throwing dd down the window.
Principal urged me to send dd for assessment, want me to take dd home by 3pm everyday, so i can practise writing with her and even suggest me to repeat dd in N2 instead of going on to K1. Both her english and chinese teachers were of no help, they cold storage her. I requested them to dot the letter or chinese word for dd to trace, slapped on my face “dot what dot, everyone already can write” send her to mindstretcher k1 preparation class… got kick out by the teacher… really “no road to go” and feeling soooo helpless… KSP saved me… THANK YOU!
Yes we went to kkh, doctor diagnosed her global delay…assigned dd for literacy and OT therapy. We attend 5 session of literacy therapy, it was great but have to wait for another 2-3 months for next round of therapy… q ineffective. Whereas OT, i rather go gymnastic.
Dd k2 this year and she can write, with challenges at every stage. And i suspect dd is having “visual-motor integration” is required for writing, copying, it is like using non-dominant hand to write, spacing and visual tracking…
These are what i do :
Stage One:
to make writing easy, use big square exercise books :
1 book for number 1 to 10
1 book for Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd
1 book for chinese basic strokes
(occassionally i stop chinese, as it is too much to cope)
You need to pre-write all the letter and let your boy trace, keep tracing, make it daily work with manageable quantity.
After sometime, you can test him if he can write those without tracing.
Stage two :
use big single line exercise book:
start with small word ie, big, good
to make peaceful for everyone, let him trace – if ok – freehand
Once ok, move to longer word ie chocolate – same let him trace 1st then freehand
Stage three:
use 3 lines writing exercise book, this is very tough for my dd, ever thot to give up but seeing her letter floating everywhere, we challenge on, now she writing are less floating and much neater.
Start with short sentence– ie, I am happy.
note draw vertical line inbetween the words, my dd couldn’t give spacing after each words – I | am | happy. Then move to longer sentence.
For chinese, totally can’t write in k1, until early k2, she can visual and write , slow and not so pretty, enuf for me. She attends enrichment with tien hsia, teacher is very caring and helpful, she survives ting xie…
OH Yes, last week, we sent dd to kkh for p1 readiness test/IQ test, oh… if i can turn back the clock i will not waste my time and $$.
There is no warm up and q robotic.
Basically, they test dd on spelling ie, chair, up, big and etc, number recogition 1-10, counting 1-20, words recognition – was, he, she, the and etc, some visual game, and question asking such as :
what is hero
what is castle
what is glow
what does shoe made of
what is opposite of south
what is a tree
what is a leave
what do you use to chew
what do you need to bake a cake
what are the colors in the rainbow
what is that room for cooking
where does milk come from
and …
anyway, the conclusion given is dd doesn’t need to go special school and will struggle in mainstream…
No one can tell me what is wrong with dd…but i feel strongly the main responsibilty is on my shoulders… now she is with Wonderful kindi with great principal and teachers, they are my great pillar… fear already kicking in - come next year - p1… -
Oppsgal:
You are not alone. At first, I couldn't too :rotflmao:
Don't understand what her working is about...chamonix:
Perhaps, it is us, the adults, who choose to look at things with a complicated mind?
This is how my daughter solved the problem -
30 - 6 = 24
24 - 4 = 20
20 - 6 = 14
14 - 4 = 10
10 - 6 = 4
4 - 4 = 0
There are 3 animals in each basket. -
linden2000:
You are good! It only dawned on me the next day what she was doing. Now, I can literally see her putting the chickens and ducks into their respective baskets, haha... Sometimes, maths can be full of fun too. :rotflmao:
Yes, perhaps we adults think too complicated.chamonix:
Perhaps, it is us, the adults, who choose to look at things with a complicated mind?
This is how my daughter solved the problem -
30 - 6 = 24
24 - 4 = 20
20 - 6 = 14
14 - 4 = 10
10 - 6 = 4
4 - 4 = 0
There are 3 animals in each basket.
She is literally distributing 1 animal into each basket and since no more animals left after 3 rounds, there are 3 in each basket. -
iwant:
For chinese, totally can't write in k1, until early k2, she can visual and write , slow and not so pretty, enuf for me. She attends enrichment with tien hsia, teacher is very caring and helpful, she survives ting xie...
OH Yes, last week, we sent dd to kkh for p1 readiness test/IQ test, oh... if i can turn back the clock i will not waste my time and $$.
There is no warm up and q robotic.
Basically, they test dd on spelling ie, chair, up, big and etc, number recogition 1-10, counting 1-20, words recognition – was, he, she, the and etc, some visual game, and question asking such as :
what is hero
what is castle
what is glow
what does shoe made of
what is opposite of south
what is a tree
what is a leave
what do you use to chew
what do you need to bake a cake
what are the colors in the rainbow
what is that room for cooking
where does milk come from
and .....
anyway, the conclusion given is dd doesn't need to go special school and will struggle in mainstream.....
No one can tell me what is wrong with dd...but i feel strongly the main responsibilty is on my shoulders.... now she is with Wonderful kindi with great principal and teachers, they are my great pillar....... fear already kicking in - come next year - p1.....
Hi want,
It's really sad to read about your girl's experience with her preschool and enrichment centre. Just to let you know, it is not a norm that kids are expected to spell words (be it English or Chinese) at K1 or even K2. My son never had any spelling or Ting Xie during his preschool days. I'm really surprised your girl was even tested for spelling during assessment. Btw, there is minimal Chinese words Ting Xie during the first semester in P1. So, don't give yourself unnecessary fears. Have faith and trust in your girl and yourself that you will cross this hurdle together. :snuggles: -
iwant:
This is valuable sharing!! I don't need it anymore but I'm glad I learnt something. :thankyou:Hi all, i am new but hv been a hardworking reader in KSP for q sometimes. Like to say a BIG THANK YOU for getting me through each challenge with my 3dd and mil.
larkspur,
I like to share with on my experience with dd2, she was attending PAP childcare but managed by local big name pre school from N2 to early k1. In k1, dd couldn't write, it was hell...yes, lots of screaming, shouting and even thot of throwing dd down the window.
Principal urged me to send dd for assessment, want me to take dd home by 3pm everyday, so i can practise writing with her and even suggest me to repeat dd in N2 instead of going on to K1. Both her english and chinese teachers were of no help, they cold storage her. I requested them to dot the letter or chinese word for dd to trace, slapped on my face “dot what dot, everyone already can write” send her to mindstretcher k1 preparation class.... got kick out by the teacher.... really “no road to go” and feeling soooo helpless..... KSP saved me... THANK YOU!
Yes we went to kkh, doctor diagnosed her global delay..assigned dd for literacy and OT therapy. We attend 5 session of literacy therapy, it was great but have to wait for another 2-3 months for next round of therapy... q ineffective. Whereas OT, i rather go gymnastic.
Dd k2 this year and she can write, with challenges at every stage. And i suspect dd is having “visual-motor integration” is required for writing, copying, it is like using non-dominant hand to write, spacing and visual tracking....
These are what i do :
Stage One:
to make writing easy, use big square exercise books :
1 book for number 1 to 10
1 book for Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd
1 book for chinese basic strokes
(occassionally i stop chinese, as it is too much to cope)
You need to pre-write all the letter and let your boy trace, keep tracing, make it daily work with manageable quantity.
After sometime, you can test him if he can write those without tracing.
Stage two :
use big single line exercise book:
start with small word ie, big, good
to make peaceful for everyone, let him trace – if ok – freehand
Once ok, move to longer word ie chocolate – same let him trace 1st then freehand
Stage three:
use 3 lines writing exercise book, this is very tough for my dd, ever thot to give up but seeing her letter floating everywhere, we challenge on, now she writing are less floating and much neater.
Start with short sentence– ie, I am happy.
note draw vertical line inbetween the words, my dd couldn't give spacing after each words – I | am | happy. Then move to longer sentence.
For chinese, totally can't write in k1, until early k2, she can visual and write , slow and not so pretty, enuf for me. She attends enrichment with tien hsia, teacher is very caring and helpful, she survives ting xie...
OH Yes, last week, we sent dd to kkh for p1 readiness test/IQ test, oh... if i can turn back the clock i will not waste my time and $$.
There is no warm up and q robotic.
Basically, they test dd on spelling ie, chair, up, big and etc, number recogition 1-10, counting 1-20, words recognition – was, he, she, the and etc, some visual game, and question asking such as :
what is hero
what is castle
what is glow
what does shoe made of
what is opposite of south
what is a tree
what is a leave
what do you use to chew
what do you need to bake a cake
what are the colors in the rainbow
what is that room for cooking
where does milk come from
and .....
anyway, the conclusion given is dd doesn't need to go special school and will struggle in mainstream.....
No one can tell me what is wrong with dd...but i feel strongly the main responsibilty is on my shoulders.... now she is with Wonderful kindi with great principal and teachers, they are my great pillar....... fear already kicking in - come next year - p1..... -
iwant, just to share with you, my child did zero spelling and zero ting xie prior to P1. Her preschool was the fun n play all day for 3 hours. Even in her Chinese enrichment during preschool, ting xie was unheard of but she coped very well in P1. So sometimes I wonder why the expectation to know spelling n ting xie has been brought down to nursery n k1 level these days? My child is not that old, 3+ yrs away from her preschool years only. :faint:
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Hi iwant,
When my daughter was in P1 last year, her form teacher told me about her short attention span and the constant need to remind…it worried me like crazy…then she asked me if it was ok to let her for an informal assessment by a learning needs officer. I was all for it.
The officer assessed and found her normal…she is slower bcos her cognitive development is that of a 6 year old instead of 7 and much slower. So we just have to be patient and revise with her constantly. The officer’s advice was not to push her too much but praise, encourage and motivate her when she does well. -
iwant:
Hi i want, after reading your post, i jsut want to say i have the same experience as you minus the school part.there are a lot of screaming and shouting too and plus some mean words to my son cos he just cant write and also he will squeeze alphabets together. If i asked him to try and rewrite an alphabet, he can actually try writing on the wrong alphabet instead of on a blank empty space.Maybe i should feel blessed in the sense that the childcare teachers , principal and the enrichment teacher have been trying their best to help my son instead of the cold treatment your dd got but now the enrichment centre decide not to have anymore weekend classes from June onwards, i am worried now that i might not be able to find anymore enrichment centre that can cater to a kid who cannot write.Hi all, i am new but hv been a hardworking reader in KSP for q sometimes. Like to say a BIG THANK YOU for getting me through each challenge with my 3dd and mil.
larkspur,
I like to share with on my experience with dd2, she was attending PAP childcare but managed by local big name pre school from N2 to early k1. In k1, dd couldn't write, it was hell...yes, lots of screaming, shouting and even thot of throwing dd down the window.
Principal urged me to send dd for assessment, want me to take dd home by 3pm everyday, so i can practise writing with her and even suggest me to repeat dd in N2 instead of going on to K1. Both her english and chinese teachers were of no help, they cold storage her. I requested them to dot the letter or chinese word for dd to trace, slapped on my face “dot what dot, everyone already can write” send her to mindstretcher k1 preparation class.... got kick out by the teacher.... really “no road to go” and feeling soooo helpless..... KSP saved me... THANK YOU!
Yes we went to kkh, doctor diagnosed her global delay..assigned dd for literacy and OT therapy. We attend 5 session of literacy therapy, it was great but have to wait for another 2-3 months for next round of therapy... q ineffective. Whereas OT, i rather go gymnastic.
Dd k2 this year and she can write, with challenges at every stage. And i suspect dd is having “visual-motor integration” is required for writing, copying, it is like using non-dominant hand to write, spacing and visual tracking....
These are what i do :
Stage One:
to make writing easy, use big square exercise books :
1 book for number 1 to 10
1 book for Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd
1 book for chinese basic strokes
(occassionally i stop chinese, as it is too much to cope)
You need to pre-write all the letter and let your boy trace, keep tracing, make it daily work with manageable quantity.
After sometime, you can test him if he can write those without tracing.
Stage two :
use big single line exercise book:
start with small word ie, big, good
to make peaceful for everyone, let him trace – if ok – freehand
Once ok, move to longer word ie chocolate – same let him trace 1st then freehand
Stage three:
use 3 lines writing exercise book, this is very tough for my dd, ever thot to give up but seeing her letter floating everywhere, we challenge on, now she writing are less floating and much neater.
Start with short sentence– ie, I am happy.
note draw vertical line inbetween the words, my dd couldn't give spacing after each words – I | am | happy. Then move to longer sentence.
For chinese, totally can't write in k1, until early k2, she can visual and write , slow and not so pretty, enuf for me. She attends enrichment with tien hsia, teacher is very caring and helpful, she survives ting xie...
OH Yes, last week, we sent dd to kkh for p1 readiness test/IQ test, oh... if i can turn back the clock i will not waste my time and $$.
There is no warm up and q robotic.
Basically, they test dd on spelling ie, chair, up, big and etc, number recogition 1-10, counting 1-20, words recognition – was, he, she, the and etc, some visual game, and question asking such as :
what is hero
what is castle
what is glow
what does shoe made of
what is opposite of south
what is a tree
what is a leave
what do you use to chew
what do you need to bake a cake
what are the colors in the rainbow
what is that room for cooking
where does milk come from
and .....
anyway, the conclusion given is dd doesn't need to go special school and will struggle in mainstream.....
No one can tell me what is wrong with dd...but i feel strongly the main responsibilty is on my shoulders.... now she is with Wonderful kindi with great principal and teachers, they are my great pillar....... fear already kicking in - come next year - p1.....
i will try out all the methods the mummies at KSP and really a big thank you to everyone. i will let everyone know if these methods work for my son and maybe i will make sure i will bring him for the visonary test at KKH end of this month and see if it is the vision issues. i will try iwant method too. Hopefully it will work
.sometimes will ask myself what did i do wrong during my pregnancy.
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