Dunman High School (Junior High)
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Augmum:
Snow crystal, first of all, i think u have misunderstood my intended meaning of my posting.
Augmum - indeed alarming and scary. But the IPs would usually say no distinction between mainstream and GEPpers by beginning of Year 3. To begin with, some of the GEPpers may have attained PSLE score quite several marks below DHS COP but had gotten in via DSA. Like what some parents and students shared, after PSLE, it's a new race all over. So late bloomers not picked up as GEP material in P3 may flourish in sec sch while some identified as GEP in P3 may not do as well in sec sch. Actually I hope the other students would be kind to these GEPpers and treat them as normal kids whose results fluctuate. They already have a heavy burden of carrying a GEP tag. Hope all do well in the O level class and continue in DHS year 5. Any idea what's the criteria for O levels students to continue to DHS year 5?Snow Crystal:
[quote=\"Augmum\"]
Class 3A is an O lvl class.
what it is alarming is that It even comprises of few pupils from the 2 Gep classes.
The 7 units classes offer 7 subjects instead of the 8 subjects if pupils obtain GPA of below 2.8
( btw, Grade B is equal to GPA of 2.8)
That 's why i said that one cant afford to slack here......
The key words are \"cant afford to slack\" esp when i read someone mentioned here abt \" Super slack\".
:roll:
The issue here ISNT so much becos of early or late bloomers, Geppers or Mainstreamers as what u have stated.
Yes, there is no distinction between Geppers and Mainstreamers by yr 3
as pupils are streamed according to their subj combo and results as well.
i am not too certain whether those few who were downgraded to O lvl class were \" truly Geppers\" or
they were mainstreamers with high psle agg score of 27X, as all these ppils are grouped under the 2 SBGE classes.
Be it Geppers or Mainstreamers, early or late bloomers,
pupils who are downgraded to O lvl class,
do generally have some learning atitude problems,i.e.....very slack ( fr what i have seen and heard).
The school itself, has already done her part in trying to \" maintain\" them in the IP.
Much efforts have been done, such as by end of yr 1,
pupils with poor results are being identified and forced to attend the mandatory supervisory studies,
with close monitoring of their results.
Letters with details of results of tests, exams, graded assignments N projects obtained in diff sch terms
are collated for parents to see and aknowledge.
Hence, both parents and pupils are notified.
And it is not only 1 letter given but several letters in a yr.
But if they continue slacking and ignore their studies, i guess the sch cant help any further.
in addition, besides academic results, heard that the school would also weigh on teachers'
comments/ recommendations over these pupils' learning attitude in class.
The above is what i have found out fr my gal as there were some ex classmates who went to 3A.[/quote]
Yes, agreed with Augmum. Whether you are Geppers or High T-scorer there isn't any different when you are in Y1.
The few marks below DHS COP for Geppers to get in or going in at high 27X does not make a different. The Geppers are taking a different program and some of the things they learn in p4-p6 will be taught in Y1 IP school that few marks on DHS COP does not make much diff. The high T-scorer work hard and with their resilence they made it with high PSLE score.
When come to Y1 all depend on how hard they want to work to achieve good results......no slacking.
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The number of students that drop out to O level track has increased. Is it due to the school raising the bar (from gpa2.5 to 2.8) or the standard of the students in that cohort has dropped?
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Augmum:
Oh sorry misunderstood you :oops:
Snow crystal, first of all, i think u have misunderstood my intended meaning of my posting.
The key words are \"cant afford to slack\" esp when i read someone mentioned here abt \" Super slack\". :roll:
The issue here ISNT so much becos of early or late bloomers, Geppers or Mainstreamers as what u have stated.
Yes, there is no distinction between Geppers and Mainstreamers by yr 3
as pupils are streamed according to their subj combo and results as well.
i am not too certain whether those few who were downgraded to O lvl class were \" truly Geppers\" or
they were mainstreamers with high psle agg score of 27X, as all these ppils are grouped under the 2 SBGE classes.
I didn't know DHS GEP class also has top PSLE scorers. But if the top PSLE scorers are the \"slackers' >> :yikes: :siam:
Yes, it's a new race in sec sch. -
If get down graded to O level class, but do very well in O levels, can rejoin the school in Y5?
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Big Octopus:
Agree that can't afford to slack in IPs like what Augmum said...all IPs are sama sama.
Yes, agreed with Augmum. Whether you are Geppers or High T-scorer there isn't any different when you are in Y1.
The few marks below DHS COP for Geppers to get in or going in at high 27X does not make a different. The Geppers are taking a different program and some of the things they learn in p4-p6 will be taught in Y1 IP school that few marks on DHS COP does not make much diff. The high T-scorer work hard and with their resilence they made it with high PSLE score.
When come to Y1 all depend on how hard they want to work to achieve good results......no slacking.
Like I said, new race in secondary sch - be it IP, IB, Express or Normal.
Wishing these O level kids the best to continue in DHS Year 5. -
Augmum:
Perhaps the actual detailed criteria is only given to the affected ones.
The school did mention that these pupils can still join DHS yr 5 if their results are extremely good,
But i dunno what is their definition of \" extremely good \".
Anyway, with good O lvl results, there are other routes/JCs to apply to,
not necessarily need to stay back here.
Yes they would have more choices with a fine set of results.
But DHS is already top tier IP and friendships already formed - so I suppose they will consider transfer only if they score nett very low eg 2
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carebear:
If get down graded to O level class, but do very well in O levels, can rejoin the school in Y5?
Yes, Augmum has mentioned it is possible to join back Y5 in DHS.
I do not know what is the definition of \"good O Level\" results for joining Y5 in DHS, but I know another IP school which also has an \"O Level\" class accept the kids back in Y5 when their O Level score is 9 points or less (excl any deduction of HCL / CCA points). -
Pen88n:
That sounds fairly reasonable
Yes, Augmum has mentioned it is possible to join back Y5 in DHS.
I do not know what is the definition of \"good O Level\" results for joining Y5 in DHS, but I know another IP school which also has an \"O Level\" class accept the kids back in Y5 when their O Level score is 9 points or less (excl any deduction of HCL / CCA points).
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Pen88n:
Oh thanks Pen88 and Augmum.carebear:
If get down graded to O level class, but do very well in O levels, can rejoin the school in Y5?
Yes, Augmum has mentioned it is possible to join back Y5 in DHS.
I do not know what is the definition of \"good O Level\" results for joining Y5 in DHS, but I know another IP school which also has an \"O Level\" class accept the kids back in Y5 when their O Level score is 9 points or less (excl any deduction of HCL / CCA points).
At least the school is reasonable and allows second chances but I am not telling dd about this so that she would not \"slack\". :censored: -
Augmum:
Ya, if being identified N notified by end of yr 2, the pupil would need not to repeat 1 yr,
Couldn't NJC have retained the boy in Year 3? He could have repeated the year in NJC and progressed on to finish his A levels at NJC. Unless his results were so bad they deemed that he wouldn't have been able to proceed on to Year 5/6. But Augmum is right. They should have been able to identify him at the end of Year 2 so that if he needed to move to an O level school, retention wouldn't have been necessary.jtoh:
[quote=\"Augmum\"]
:whut: stay back sec 3 again ?? that's is really sad......
I thot usually by end of yr2, ( instead of yr3), the sch would have identified the weaker ones and notified them already.
as there is still 2 yrs timeframe to get familarise with O lvl syllabus.[/quote]No idea.. My friend had told me the story to remind me to watch son's progress closely.. According to her, the boy is a neighbour of her colleague.
Anyway, it could be that the boy only started to fare badly in year 3, or NJC believed that he could do better via 'O' level route.. but these are only my guess lor.
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