MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

[limlim]

3Boys:

Mdm Koh:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the main article did not mention the alumni.

It did, and yes, they are studying other connections too.

Grassroots.. shd go under the knife.. :evil: :evil:

[DesertWind]

Jia lat. If priority goes strictly by distance, then I can think of those in rich areas eg. Bukit Timah, central areas etc. with brand name schools, only those ultra rich can afford to buy near or rent high can get into those brand name schools.


Rich includes those non-citizens who can afford to come here or send their kids here. Poor alumni from my generation HDB heart-landers don’t even have the chance to get our kids into such schools anymore.

Such schools become even more ultra-elite.

Just my preliminary thoughts. So discouraging!

[tankee]

DesertWind:

Jia lat. If priority goes strictly by distance, then I can think of those in rich areas eg. Bukit Timah, central areas etc. with brand name schools, only those ultra rich can afford to buy near or rent high can get into those brand name schools.


Rich includes those non-citizens who can afford to come here or send their kids here. Poor alumni from my generation HDB heart-landers don't even have the chance to get our kids into such schools anymore.

Such schools become even more ultra-elite.

Just my preliminary thoughts. So discouraging!

:idea: quick, go buy a property near a popular school before the price shoots up. Maybe can make a quick profit soon :evil:

Anyway, not all popular schools are in \"rich areas\".

[vicki]

My thoughts.


They should completely do away with all phases and distances or should they?

> I keep hearing everyone say must be fair and stuff (either to those alumni/ volunteers/ within 2km etc) so if we should be completely fair, i believe we should just do away with all the phases and all go for balloting at their school of choice. Then its just luck whether you get in or not. If you think you are in a school that is ‘too far’ from your house, then just shift house lor - since it doesnt really seem like an issue to ‘shift near the school of choice in the first place’.


> Any other methods to allocate schools other than the above is definitely not a ‘fair’ method - so depends on where you are positioned now - you will probably shout hurray or grumble (me included!)

And - i dont really buy the argument of ‘i stay near a school and therefore i should have my birthright of getting in’.

It might not apply to all , but some parents ‘purposely buy a house near a good school - cant get in - then complain/ grumble whatever - using this statement.’

I mean if you are really that concerned abt staying near the school - then just buy a house near a ‘unpopular’ school and send your kids there lor - bao get in one - BUT - are you willing?

So, back to my grumble - pple are grumbling cos things do not go in accordance with their plans - hence not abt the distance/ phases issue - but rather a ‘popular school issue’.

[vicki]

Suz855:

quote \" actually donch need to revamp the P1 registration.

Just let these branded schools increase their intake or set up another school lor!! Then slowly slowly the branded ones will take up the noone-want schools in the neighbours and set up 'branch1', 'branch2'....\"

I like the idea, why new neighbourhood school should have a new name, just call it Raffles at Tampines, Roysth at Sengkang ... etc ... then all our children will get a chance to study at branded school lor ... lol

:please:

I also like the idea! Kills so many birds with one stone.

[verykiasu2010]

vicki:

My thoughts.


They should completely do away with all phases and distances or should they?

> I keep hearing everyone say must be fair and stuff (either to those alumni/ volunteers/ within 2km etc) so if we should be completely fair, i believe we should just do away with all the phases and all go for balloting at their school of choice. Then its just luck whether you get in or not. If you think you are in a school that is 'too far' from your house, then just shift house lor - since it doesnt really seem like an issue to 'shift near the school of choice in the first place'.


> Any other methods to allocate schools other than the above is definitely not a 'fair' method - so depends on where you are positioned now - you will probably shout hurray or grumble (me included!)

And - i dont really buy the argument of 'i stay near a school and therefore i should have my birthright of getting in'.

It might not apply to all , but some parents 'purposely buy a house near a good school - cant get in - then complain/ grumble whatever - using this statement.'

I mean if you are really that concerned abt staying near the school - then just buy a house near a 'unpopular' school and send your kids there lor - bao get in one - BUT - are you willing?

So, back to my grumble - pple are grumbling cos things do not go in accordance with their plans - hence not abt the distance/ phases issue - but rather a 'popular school issue'.

:goodpost:

[vicki]

DesertWind:

Jia lat. If priority goes strictly by distance, then I can think of those in rich areas eg. Bukit Timah, central areas etc. with brand name schools, only those ultra rich can afford to buy near or rent high can get into those brand name schools.


Rich includes those non-citizens who can afford to come here or send their kids here. Poor alumni from my generation HDB heart-landers don't even have the chance to get our kids into such schools anymore.

Such schools become even more ultra-elite.

Just my preliminary thoughts. So discouraging!

Yup - so i think they cannot cut the earlier phases (which in a way creates some form of 'balance').

[Sun_2010]

vicki:

My thoughts.


They should completely do away with all phases and distances or should they?

> I keep hearing everyone say must be fair and stuff (either to those alumni/ volunteers/ within 2km etc) so if we should be completely fair, i believe we should just do away with all the phases and all go for balloting at their school of choice. Then its just luck whether you get in or not. If you think you are in a school that is 'too far' from your house, then just shift house lor - since it doesnt really seem like an issue to 'shift near the school of choice in the first place'.


> Any other methods to allocate schools other than the above is definitely not a 'fair' method - so depends on where you are positioned now - you will probably shout hurray or grumble (me included!)

And - i dont really buy the argument of 'i stay near a school and therefore i should have my birthright of getting in'.

It might not apply to all , but some parents 'purposely buy a house near a good school - cant get in - then complain/ grumble whatever - using this statement.'

I mean if you are really that concerned abt staying near the school - then just buy a house near a 'unpopular' school and send your kids there lor - bao get in one - BUT - are you willing?

So, back to my grumble - pple are grumbling cos things do not go in accordance with their plans - hence not abt the distance/ phases issue - but rather a 'popular school issue'.

What !

And take away my birthright to grumble???

[hokkiengirl]

I fully applaud the move to relook the P1 registration system. Too many kids are being forced out of the schools nearest to their homes because of the lack of places. My take is that priority to the children of alumni parents should be restricted and not a given. Maybe a quota can be put in place? And within the quota, should there be not enough places, the spaces could be allocated based on the family’s proximity to the school. So it doesn’t necessarily mean that your girl can automatically get into RGPS (for example) even if you live in Pasir Ris! That may be fairer.


Actually, I am one of those parents who benefited from the PV scheme. It was a lifeline to me, as I have Tigger sons, jumpy boys who cannot focus. And Boy No. 2 is a very sensitive chap who did not thrive in a results-focused kindy. (We’ve since pulled him out and put him in a kinder, friendlier environment and he is doing just fine.)

Ironically, the school nearest to my home was a ‘branded’ school, one of those that parents would move mountains to send their children to. It is also extremely stressful. Not a good fit. The perfect school for us was more than 2 km away. A nice, little neighbourhood school run on a single session. If not for the PV scheme, I might not have had the chance to send my children to the Happy School, so I can’t complain about the system.

Perhaps a better thing to do would be to tweak it. Parents could ballot for places, instead of being ‘chosen’ by the principal. Fairer? And if there is too much demand for the PV places, I do think Singaporean parents should be given priority, and PRs can take up the rest of the places, so that is one’s reward for doing NS!

[BigDevil]

tankee:

:idea: quick, go buy a property near a popular school before the price shoots up. Maybe can make a quick profit soon :evil:

Profit?? Nah....I'm hanging on to it so my grandchildren can gain entry to the school!
[quote]Anyway, not all popular schools are in \"rich areas\". [/quote]Then they will soon become \"rich areas\".