MOE should give P1 registration priority to SG kids?

[lim72]

How do you know they have limited choices? Are you one of them?

[3Boys]

lim72:

How do you feel if you have to fight for a place with someone who just came to Singapore for 2-3years! Most of our husbands spent at least 2years NS and our children are Singaporeans, are these not enough to justify for a priority!


Is this too much to ask?

I'm based on the assumption that you are one of us, most likely you are not. Please make sure your 3 boys complete their NS before being forced to move out seeking greener pastures out there..... somewhere..... don't know where..... good luck!

Please don't assume. I am Singaporean, I have done my 2.5 years of NS, plus 10+ High key reservist. All my boys will do NS.

Good enough for you?

[3Boys]

Ok, one more. This bogeyman about foreign students in P-school, this 'huge' competition that everyone is screaming about, what is the reality?


How many percent of our students in P-school are non-PR foreigners, recently arrived?

A shade over 5%

Check out these statistics yourself.

Singapore education stats, Pg 30 --> http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/education-statistics-digest/files/esd-2011.pdf

Student P1 enrolment in 2010 = 39595

Birth Rate 2003 (the cohort enrolled in 2010) = 37485

http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php&t=395

Competition for places?

Puhleez. 15 students out of 300, that's what it amounts to. Too many??

[corneyAmber]

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3Boys, this 5% includes both FT and FW's kids?

[nissin]

Alumni/non-alumni is a non issue to me, in fact I feel that this alumni phase is not a problem. The problem is Singaporeans are not given an absolute right/priority in P1 registration at all. IMO, in ALL phases Singaporeans should come first, then the PRs. Foreigners as usual can only reg in phase 3. There should be a clear distinction between a Singaporean and a PR, if there isn’t much difference, who will want to convert their citizenship?

[vicki]

Regarding SG vs PR, I don’t thk we should totally exclude them but if it is an issue, maybe can ‘limit’ the number against the percentage of SG applications? Maybe like limit to 10 or 15% (arbitrary number) of PR students / SG students registered per phase?

[3Boys]

ksi:

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3Boys, this 5% includes both FT and FW's kids?

I am making an assumption based off the statistics. I.e. those locally born (which could of course include PRs) against those who registered for P1 7 years later. I.e., relatively long stayers. The overage is 5%, which I attribute to new imports, +/- a bit.

[3Boys]

laughingcat:

I am speaking on the ground that my child was granted a position in the foreign country school. Schools with deep history and are even more elistic than in SGP. How did we get in, in the first place? Based on entry level. Being PR, I need to pay alot high price as compared to the local PR here.


Well....our education policy sucks when comes to PR. As what you mentioned here do we all just buy in and keep quiet? As quote by you \"The world is flat, may as well get used to it.\" Nope. Even though a certain % still think that the world is flat, people will try to prove that the world is round.

So, just to be clear, is this our real life situation now, or are you speaking hypothetically, I'm confused.

[3Boys]

vicki:

Regarding SG vs PR, I don't thk we should totally exclude them but if it is an issue, maybe can 'limit' the number against the percentage of SG applications? Maybe like limit to 10 or 15% (arbitrary number) of PR students / SG students registered per phase?

Yeah, just wait and see how that goes down. Even if 1 Singaporean lost out to one foreigner in the whole of Singapore, will be headline news.

[corneyAmber]

3Boys:

ksi:

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3Boys, this 5% includes both FT and FW's kids?

I am making an assumption based off the statistics. I.e. those locally born (which could of course include PRs) against those who registered for P1 7 years later. I.e., relatively long stayers. The overage is 5%, which I attribute to new imports, +/- a bit.

Actually I am thinking the immediate imports with ready children are generating some of the concerns and typically they are the FTs which I am not sure what is the actual %. Interesting fact about them is, their numbers may be small but their \"threat\" impact seems significant. Apart from P1 registration, they also make an impact in school results ranking. Of course that is merit-based but what I am trying to say is the statistics may appear small but they somehow magnify their presence by their ability to drive results. My school has quite a few outstanding PRC kids.