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    MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

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      sean wife
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      3Boys:
      sean wife:


      My thinking is that for a popular nearby school (which currently has a significant number of places taken up at 2A phase), even if this phase is removed, there is also almost 100% certainty that balloting is still required at Phase 2B or 2C based on distance right? So it is not a clear win benefit for those who stay near but no affiliations with the school.

      Arguably there would be more spaces open to the 'public' (non alumni) for balloting?

      Yes, that I agree…higher chance of success at balloting, maybe from 50% to 80%...but still for many determined parents, is 80% good enough? Probably not…so not sure if how/why it would make many parents REALLY happier if MOE removes the priority phases…Personally for my own case, it’s really ‘liang3 tou2 bu4 zhao2 ai4” (2 heads don’t touch land…)

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        limlim
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        3Boys:
        It's easy to say 'there is nothing fair in the world ' and leave things status quo. Ask yourself, what is more unfair?
        Anything against the principle of \"In the best education interest\" of the child.. is unfair.

        What is best for the child? Not that his/her parents is from the grassroots or clans or church.. but distance definitely has significant impact.

        If the parents move/shift house to stay near, it may seems \"unfair\" to some bcoz these pple got the money to do it. But.. this is a question of \"how they got there\" and whether this requires much consideration is another topic on \"fairness\".

        The point is, they already got there. And, it is in the best interests of the child that he/she stays nearby.. that is the current consideration and that is what matters Now.

        Personally, I am very glad that my kids studied in a nearby school. I'm going to train them to take public transport or walk depending on whether rain or shine. I also want them to have sufficient rest.

        Those parents who send there kids to some faraway places.. Does your kid really likes it? do they have a choice? is it fair to them?

        The kids can't make the choice.. so MOE makes the choice for them \"in their best interest\". I feel, this is fair.

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          doodbug
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          Doodbug, even from my historically rich school with big intake, the Phase 2A kids are less than the bulk in Phase 2B and 2C. In % terms, <10% of total intake.[/quote]


          Hihi, please see the KSP statistics. For most of the popular schools, under the statistic "APP = Number of Applicants versus available places for that Phase", Phase 2A (which is largely alumni) takes up about 50% of places if not more of the remaining number of spots left after the sibling phase.

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            corneyAmber
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            sean wife:
            3Boys:

            [quote=\"sean wife\"]
            My thinking is that for a popular nearby school (which currently has a significant number of places taken up at 2A phase), even if this phase is removed, there is also almost 100% certainty that balloting is still required at Phase 2B or 2C based on distance right? So it is not a clear win benefit for those who stay near but no affiliations with the school.

            Arguably there would be more spaces open to the 'public' (non alumni) for balloting?

            Yes, that I agree…higher chance of success at balloting, maybe from 50% to 80%...but still for many determined parents, is 80% good enough? Probably not…so not sure if how/why it would make many parents REALLY happier if MOE removes the priority phases…Personally for my own case, it’s really ‘liang3 tou2 bu4 zhao2 ai4” (2 heads don’t touch land…)[/quote]Likewise, I think a mindset change by the parents will make them happier, not this external change.

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              doodbug
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              limlim:
              3Boys:

              It's easy to say 'there is nothing fair in the world ' and leave things status quo. Ask yourself, what is more unfair?

              Anything against the principle of \"In the best education interest\" of the child.. is unfair.

              What is best for the child? Not that his/her parents is from the grassroots or clans or church.. but distance definitely has significant impact.

              If the parents move/shift house to stay near, it may seems \"unfair\" to some bcoz these pple got the money to do it. But.. this is a question of \"how they got there\" and whether this requires much consideration is another topic on \"fairness\".

              The point is, they already got there. And, it is in the best interests of the child that he/she stays nearby.. that is the current consideration and that is what matters Now.

              Personally, I am very glad that my kids studied in a nearby school. I'm going to train them to take public transport or walk depending on whether rain or shine. I also want them to have sufficient rest.

              Those parents who send there kids to some faraway places.. Does your kid really likes it? do they have a choice? is it fair to them?

              The kids can't make the choice.. so MOE makes the choice for them \"in their best interest\". I feel, this is fair.

              If every parent shared your sentiments, it would be easy for MOE to decide how to proceed! However, many parents would trade distance off for a better school (real or perceived, there ARE primary schools that are doing better than others in various areas), or an alumni school for family tradition etc. Most parents I suspect, do not use see distance as the sole measure of 'what's best for the child'.

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                laughingcat
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                Distance to school is important. Getting into a good school in terms of environment and acedemic wise are equally important. I think most parents are in that mindset.

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                  doodbug
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                  laughingcat:
                  Distance to school is important. Getting into a good school in terms of environment and acedemic wise are equally important. I think most parents are in that mindset.

                  Agree. Hohoho. Wonder how MOE will marry all these different wants....

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                    Daddy D
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                    http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_770194.html


                    \"Neighbourhood schools are good too: Heng Swee Keat...\"
                    :goodpost:
                    😆 :rotflmao:

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                      HVR
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                      doodbug:
                      limlim:

                      [quote=\"3Boys\"]It's easy to say 'there is nothing fair in the world ' and leave things status quo. Ask yourself, what is more unfair?

                      Anything against the principle of \"In the best education interest\" of the child.. is unfair.

                      What is best for the child? Not that his/her parents is from the grassroots or clans or church.. but distance definitely has significant impact.

                      If the parents move/shift house to stay near, it may seems \"unfair\" to some bcoz these pple got the money to do it. But.. this is a question of \"how they got there\" and whether this requires much consideration is another topic on \"fairness\".

                      The point is, they already got there. And, it is in the best interests of the child that he/she stays nearby.. that is the current consideration and that is what matters Now.

                      Personally, I am very glad that my kids studied in a nearby school. I'm going to train them to take public transport or walk depending on whether rain or shine. I also want them to have sufficient rest.

                      Those parents who send there kids to some faraway places.. Does your kid really likes it? do they have a choice? is it fair to them?

                      The kids can't make the choice.. so MOE makes the choice for them \"in their best interest\". I feel, this is fair.

                      If every parent shared your sentiments, it would be easy for MOE to decide how to proceed! However, many parents would trade distance off for a better school (real or perceived, there ARE primary schools that are doing better than others in various areas), or an alumni school for family tradition etc. Most parents I suspect, do not use see distance as the sole measure of 'what's best for the child'.[/quote]Agree. In the news on TV a parent who moved near to a popular school was interviewed and he said he will be upset if he can't get in. The school's name was mentioned and this is a school where phase 2b also need balloting for those who live within 1 km! On the other hand, certain schools if you live outside s'pore chances are you still can get a place. For popular schools, distance doesn't mean anything for parents. They just move/rent a place near the school and they complain when fail to get in.

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                        phtthp
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                        which school is that ?

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