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    MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

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    • C Offline
      concern2
      last edited by

      3Boys, you're probably going to flame me for seeing too much into politics - anyhow, a thought came to me and I've shared this on the other thread:


      http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32436&p=717495#p717495

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      • phankaoP Offline
        phankao
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        phtthp:
        how old is Heng Swee Keat ?

        if he married like 5 yrs ago, most likely his child also enrol for P1 soon.
        i suppose his child can go to any school in SG he choose.
        He is 49yrs old (or 50yrs old now) with 2 children, don't know how old. Quite likely already in pri or even sec school already.

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        • N Offline
          nms1
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          LOLMum:
          nms1:



          The church & clan schools are classed as government-aided which means that they are only 90% funded by the government. The rest has to be obtained through fund-raising.


          90% funded by govt......oic. where did u get this info?

          From what I remember from P1 orientation the ongoing costs are all covered by the government but it only pays 90% of the cost for new buildings and facilities.

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          • doodbugD Offline
            doodbug
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            I support Citygirl's suggestion! :ugogirl:

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            • I Offline
              i3mum
              last edited by

              :goodpost:

              citygirl:
              I've said my piece in previous threads and can only conclude - nothing would be fair in the eyes of all. But I thought I'd join in the fun with a proposal of my own. How about this:


              Phase 1: for siblings of any child already studying in the school, or the children of staff of that school

              Phase 2 (50% of remaining spaces after Phase 1): lucky draw at any school of your choice, with Singaporeans getting 3 slips, PRs 2 slips, foreigners 1 slip

              Phase 3 (50% of remaining spaces after Phase 1): no choice - government to assign all who failed in phase 2 to nearest available school

              And we abolish all affiliations from primary to secondary to jc.

              *Parents won't need to be exploited PV-ing
              *Catholics/Christians/Buddhists/Muslims/Hindus can pray real hard they will get into their Catholic/Christian/Buddhist/Muslim/Hindu school at phase 2. If you succeed, God is great. If not, God has other plans for you.
              *Alumni/grassroot leaders/clan associations also get a shot in the phase 2 lucky draw, together with everyone else - no distinction, no elitism. If you succeed, good. If not, appeal after the entire process and the truly active/outstanding alumni, grassroot leader/clan member will surely get priority in the appeal queue, totally at the discretion of the principal.
              *Everyone will get a place in a school located near their house, unless they chose something far away in Phase 2 and was successful in the lucky draw.

              Ok, bring on the comments/suggestions/criticism!

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              • jenaoJ Offline
                jenao
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                Daddy 😧
                http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_770194.html


                \"Neighbourhood schools are good too:
                Reviewing P1 registration actually contradicts what Mr Heng said about neighbourhood schools are also good. If neighbourhood schools are good too, then why MOE acknowledges the problems with the P1 registration process bought up by parents who obviously do not think that all schools are the same and only want to enrol their kids in a few good school.

                As it is, there is no fair way to do this. No matter what MOE does, there will be unfairness even with proximity which will benefit the rich or PR. In fact, I am surprised that they are actually reviewing it. In my opinion, MOE shld not waste their resources reviewing something which cannot be fair, no matter how they tweak it. They shld spend time and resources in reviewing the education system to ensure that all schools get the same resources and bring up the standard of those schools to be on par with the so called good school. Then maybe parents will not place too much emphasis on which school they register in.

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                • J Offline
                  janet88
                  last edited by

                  jenao:
                  Daddy 😧

                  http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_770194.html


                  \"Neighbourhood schools are good too:

                  Reviewing P1 registration actually contradicts what Mr Heng said about neighbourhood schools are also good. If neighbourhood schools are good too, then why MOE acknowledges the problems with the P1 registration process bought up by parents who obviously do not think that all schools are the same and only want to enrol their kids in a few good school.

                  As it is, there is no fair way to do this. No matter what MOE does, there will be unfairness even with proximity which will benefit the rich or PR. In fact, I am surprised that they are actually reviewing it. In my opinion, MOE shld not waste their resources reviewing something which cannot be fair, no matter how they tweak it. They shld spend time and resources in reviewing the education system to ensure that all schools get the same resources and bring up the standard of those schools to be on par with the so called good school. Then maybe parents will not place too much emphasis on which school they register in.

                  :goodpost: if MOE is looking into reviewing the P1 registration, then don't contradict by saying all schools are the same. Definitely not all schools are the same or else celebrities wont be doing PV or shift near hot schools in the hope of registering their kids.

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                  • JGMumJ Offline
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                    My (personal) guess is that any tweaking of the current system would be in favour of proximity (this does not mean that I support it as I truly believe it will drive up property prices within 1 km of popular schools). I am not sure, though, that it would be as drastic as to take out completely the alumni/old boy/old girl phase. So perhaps the outcome might be, retain the existing phases, but set a quota or cap on each phase as another forum writer suggested earlier, and if any phase is oversubscribed, then it is subject to priority/balloting by distance.


                    One benefit as we know, is less traveling for the child. Could there be another "benefit"? Would it possibly make those who live closer to the school "happier" as it means increased probability of getting into the choice school in their neighbourhood? I am guessing that the MPs that oversee the constituencies in which these popular schools are sited would likely support any policy change in this direction. This is because it would please Singaporean parents who live within 2km, Singaporeans who are probably the electorate in their constituencies. I imagine that since the GE last year, probably one of the pressing kpi’s would be to increase % voter support for the ruling party. So any tweaking of the P1 registration system could likely be "voter-pleasing". If that is the case, would further prioritisation by citizenship be in the works too? It’s anybody’s guess.

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                    • JGMumJ Offline
                      JGMum
                      last edited by

                      concern2:
                      3Boys, you're probably going to flame me for seeing too much into politics - anyhow, a thought came to me and I've shared this on the other thread:


                      http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32436&p=717495#p717495
                      Very, very interesting view Concern2 brought up.

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                      • JGMumJ Offline
                        JGMum
                        last edited by

                        jenao:

                        Reviewing P1 registration actually contradicts what Mr Heng said about neighbourhood schools are also good. If neighbourhood schools are good too, then why MOE acknowledges the problems with the P1 registration process bought up by parents who obviously do not think that all schools are the same and only want to enrol their kids in a few good school.

                        As it is, there is no fair way to do this. No matter what MOE does, there will be unfairness even with proximity which will benefit the rich or PR. In fact, I am surprised that they are actually reviewing it. In my opinion, MOE shld not waste their resources reviewing something which cannot be fair, no matter how they tweak it. They shld spend time and resources in reviewing the education system to ensure that all schools get the same resources and bring up the standard of those schools to be on par with the so called good school. Then maybe parents will not place too much emphasis on which school they register in.
                        :goodpost:

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