MOE should give P1 registration priority to SG kids?

[ghostz]

Beansprout:

My view is that, priorities to give to Singaporeans and whatever left vacancies will then be given to foreigners and PRs. I do not think by doing some it will deter foreigners to come here. There are other things that they consider when they come here eg. political and economic stability and job opportunities.

Hear hear, agree. Citizens first.

[3Boys]

concern2:

3) The influx of foreigners who want a place in Singapore public school - they have too little chance of getting a place in the current system.

I want to talk about Point 3. Isn't it possible that the in the attempt to attract more immigrants into our country, our garmen need to make room for them in our society - giving them more chance into our schools being one of them?


Has it occurred to you that the queries could be from foreigners (rather than our own people), and that relooking into the registration is really to favor foreigners - to retain the rich?

See, Alumnis are naturally majority Singaporeans - right? Without these Alumnis, more spaces will be freed for all - Singaporeans or non-Singaporeans, right?
Yes, perhaps more Singaporeans will benefit from the change, but if distance is really going to be the key factor of consideration, then perhaps it suits the garmen - and foreigners more since, ultimately, property prices around the popular schools will go up and possibly, only the rich and wealthy will be able to afford. This, is going to worsen the divide, not narrowing it (divide here referring to the gap between the elite and the common people).

Of course the alumni thing is political, it takes an school admissions advantage from one group, and gives it to another, how can it not be?

The foreigner factor? I was just waiting to see how it took to surface....

The next few paragraphs are speaking in general, not meant to impute anything about your intentions, but since you called my attention to this, I am replying to your post.

As typical for these types of discussions, one group (pro-alumni), seeking to bolster its position, now invokes the familiar bogeyman, the much dreaded FOREIGNER. Much the way Malaysian politicians blame everything on Singapore, and Iran blames everything on Israel and the USA. Want to score points at the elections, take an anti-foreigner position. Just the same here.

To call this a foreigner plot to usurp rightful 'true-blue' Singaporeans places in schools is to ignore the facts and realities and a real affront to the many Singaporeans who are feel unfairly disadvantaged by this policy. The proportion of 'new' foreign students is likely to be around 5% (according to my guesstimate), only 1 in 20. So using this measure meant to exclude one foreigner would impact 19 other Singaporeans. Like performing surgery with a chain saw. What kind of policy making is that?

I will have to exclude it out of hand, does not make any sense. Should not be used as a smokescreen to influence the discussion around alumni priority.

[3Boys]

limlim:

3Boys:

You all actually think this is reasonable??

Sorry, I am not continuing this conversation.

invalid accusation + unjust generalization (red).

sorry, your resignation is hereby rejected.. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

limlim, what is your view on the reasonableness of a multi-tiered citizenship. No bait, just your thoughts please.

[caroline3sg]

3Boys:

vicki:

Err... A citizen IS a citizen. Period.

That's my take.

Exactly.

Reason why I wrote new citizen have to serve their dues before given equal footing is because:

http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/02/23/thousands-of-filipinos-may-be-maintaining-dual-citizenship-in-singapore/

http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Asia/Story/A1Story20120131-325024.html

I don't know how true it is but since Mr Wan did mention that new TRE (as opposed to old TR) tries to verify before posting.

[znzyzyzx]

I know of a PR , whose daughter is in rgps, has already planned that her infant son shall denounce the singapore PR and move overseas when the time comes for him to do NS.

[znzyzyzx]

My ex-colleague, denounced his spore PR when it was time for him to do NS (which he said was applied for him by his father and he did not study in spore, so did not enjoy any benefit, so why should he serve NS ?). But few years later, he came to work in spore. And we welcome him and give him a work pass, no question asked.

[raysusan]

znzyzyzx:

I know of a PR , whose daughter is in rgps, has already planned that her infant son shall denounce the singapore PR and move overseas when the time comes for him to do NS.

you know 1?
i know 4 more...similar scenario

[janet88]

I hope MOE cuts down telling us this thing that ALL schools are the same…it is definitely NOT the same or else kids won’t have to take school bus at 5am to travel from one end to another…parents won’t be driving kids from pasir ris or hougang to bukit Timah.


More should be done to retain born and bred Singaporeans and protect us from PRs who are out to squeeze every single opportunity from us only to run away when duty calls for them to show loyalty.

[Jojobar]

Hi all,


I am a silent reader of this forum but cannot stay silent on ths topic. I had personally wrote to mr Heng and pm lee on this topic late last year. In fact, I will be writing again to them to remind their new policy should align to the overall" Singaporean first" intent policy which we have seen in other recent review policy.

[Jojobar]

The Singaporean first intent was mentioned by pm lee in his last national day rally. Subsequently, we did see some policy tweaked to give singapoeran priority. For example ths cooling measure of property. Hence I would expect the education policy to tweaked with singaporean first intent,

Personally, many of my friends and family are unhappy with the current primary school registration due to the same standing given to singaporean and pr. Can I urge everyone believe this is not what you believe in to write in to the education minister to air your view and opinion.

To be honest, our sons have born with obligation to this country, they will serve the national service when they turn 18, I cannot see why this country cannot give them the priority in primary school registration to ensure they have a good start in education. Of course, the moe or mr Heng can argue that all primary school are good and equal. Then I would suggest them to sell the notion to the pr …