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    MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

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    • phankaoP Offline
      phankao
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      janet_lee88:
      phankao:


      Yah, top student in singapore (GEP student) from Rosyth attended Mind stretcher and Learning Lab.

      Top student last year from Rulang attended Learning Lab.

      Might as well - all the students enrol to study at Learnin lab, lah.

      Learning Lab proudly advertised with pic of the 2 top students...Mind stretcher centers have been expanding rapidly.
      No need to attend top schools lah...just register neighborhood schools and send kids to learning lab or mind stretcher lor. Is this the message that is sent out to parents ?

      Come to think of it, why not avoid mainstream schools but attend enrichment centers instead ?

      1st, have to pass Learning Lab's entry tests, and then apply to MOE to be exempted from Compulsory schooling. Even MOE checks if you are really teaching your child at home or farm out, ok.

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      • laughingcatL Offline
        laughingcat
        last edited by

        janet_lee88:
        phankao:


        Yah, top student in singapore (GEP student) from Rosyth attended Mind stretcher and Learning Lab.

        Top student last year from Rulang attended Learning Lab.

        Might as well - all the students enrol to study at Learnin lab, lah.

        Learning Lab proudly advertised with pic of the 2 top students...Mind stretcher centers have been expanding rapidly.
        No need to attend top schools lah...just register neighborhood schools and send kids to learning lab or mind stretcher lor. Is this the message that is sent out to parents ?

        Come to think of it, why not avoid mainstream schools but attend enrichment centers instead ?

        That is what i am thinking. Just go back to school for cca. 😉

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        • PiggyLalalaP Offline
          PiggyLalala
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          magiccastle:
          :hugs: Parents under 2b n 2c phrases will advocate to reduce the allotment for 2a phrase. . But once your children got in to the schools , you will want to protect the right to 2a phrase. , u will not want this phrase to be phrased out.!! It benefits generations to come.

          A mummy drove Porsche to do Pv ( traffic control )at nanyang told me she rented a pty near nanyang to ensure their address is within 1 km . She said it's worthwhile as it benefits a few generations to come.
          So far, those from nanyang that I have known of did very well for their PSLE .it is as good as saying once u got in to nanyang , u are 50% assured to get 250 as above for your PSLE. :hugs:

          That's why many parents would like to put their kids in nanyang. 50 percent chance to get above 250. How can all schools be the same? Look at the psle result or the program in the school, you know they are not. I think the most important person in the school is the principal. He sets the tone and direction for the school. Maybe moe should look at schools that have been performing badly and try to raise their standard. If all schools standard does not differ too greatly, p1 registration will be much easier.

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          • tankeeT Offline
            tankee
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            znzyzyzx:
            like that school admin very \" boh eng\", to keep track how many hours lah , blah blah blah.

            Laura02:

            I think the present system of Pri 1 allocation is quite fair, but some loopholes should be removed.
            For instance, I have heard of parents (both local and PR) buying uncompleted properties within 1km of \"good schools\", using that address to apply for the school, but planning (right fr day one) to rent out the property when its TOPs.
            And I feel that parents who have already done volunteer work to put their child in the school should be allowed to enter the school. That said, is perhaps unavoidable that sometimes schools will miscalculate the number of vacancies it has for this phase. So perhaps schools should give places to the children of PV who have put in the most number of hours. So say, for instance, the school anticipates that there will be 40 places for PVs. It allows 40 parents to do PV work for the year before the child applies for Pri 1. The school can stipulate say 40h, but encourage PV to do more. And say if, at the application date, the school only finds 30 vacancies, then it gives these 30 vacancies to the 30 PV with the highest number of volunteer hours clocked in, while the remaining 10 PVs will have to ballot.
            I think a forum like this is great to throw up different ideas - because we can all point of the pros & cons of these ideas. Some will take an personal, selfish viewpoint, while other will take an altruistic, balanced, longer term viewpoint. For the former, I say, becareful what you wish for because sometimes you get your wish - and it turns out to have quite unpleasant side-effects.


            not really.

            all sign-in / sign-out, time-sheet base.

            the schools have to keep track anyway, to see who to issue the letter

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            • Laura02L Offline
              Laura02
              last edited by

              Ya hor! It would require more manpower to monitor PV hours put in, so … in order to not further burden the teachers, get other volunteers to do it. Actually, to really be fair, applicants from all phases should do volunteer work in school. So, for phase 1, parents of existing pupils should do PV work in school for a stipulated number of hours for their 2nd child to gain admission under phase 1.

              For phase 2a, alumni should also do a stipulated number of hours before they qualify for phase 2a. Same goes for phase 2b.
              Then get a volunteer from one phase to do the administrative affairs for volunteers from another phase.

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              • Laura02L Offline
                Laura02
                last edited by

                Or, as already suggested, that it that all primary schools are "equal" and just send the child to an enrichment centre with a proven track record.

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                • A Offline
                  absolut_vodka
                  last edited by

                  The tracking of hours is already been done at some schoolS. Someone I know was told upfront when she signed for PV that the top PV clocked more than 500 hours and eventually her child was given a place in the school.

                  znzyzyzx:
                  like that school admin very \" boh eng\", to keep track how many hours lah , blah blah blah.
                  Laura02:

                  I think the present system of Pri 1 allocation is quite fair, but some loopholes should be removed.
                  For instance, I have heard of parents (both local and PR) buying uncompleted properties within 1km of \"good schools\", using that address to apply for the school, but planning (right fr day one) to rent out the property when its TOPs.
                  And I feel that parents who have already done volunteer work to put their child in the school should be allowed to enter the school. That said, is perhaps unavoidable that sometimes schools will miscalculate the number of vacancies it has for this phase. So perhaps schools should give places to the children of PV who have put in the most number of hours. So say, for instance, the school anticipates that there will be 40 places for PVs. It allows 40 parents to do PV work for the year before the child applies for Pri 1. The school can stipulate say 40h, but encourage PV to do more. And say if, at the application date, the school only finds 30 vacancies, then it gives these 30 vacancies to the 30 PV with the highest number of volunteer hours clocked in, while the remaining 10 PVs will have to ballot.
                  I think a forum like this is great to throw up different ideas - because we can all point of the pros & cons of these ideas. Some will take an personal, selfish viewpoint, while other will take an altruistic, balanced, longer term viewpoint. For the former, I say, becareful what you wish for because sometimes you get your wish - and it turns out to have quite unpleasant side-effects.

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                  • M Offline
                    magiccastle
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                    Piggylalala,

                    Ya. Nanyang has a good curriculum n a strong Chinese culture. But of course , the parents of the students in nanyang - most of them are middle class n above . So can afford to send the children to the various enrichment classes n push the children to maximize their academic potential. The school has it’s own the resource too.

                    Unlike other schools especially the neighbourhood ones, no resource n background of the students varies, a bit difficult for the principal to push. still possible but a lot of hardwork n effort from the teachers n students.

                    Like my girl , initially wanted her to go to a school with a rich Chinese culture, so went tho interview to become Pv at one of the sap schools with strong Chinese culture. True enough, I feel the presence of the Chinese tradition n culture once I stepped into the school. With that environment , the students will definitely build a strong foundation in Chinese. But as no guarantee of a place n i cannot commit my time, I didn’t proceed. Instead , i registered her in a nearby school which has more than 100 years of history n supposed to have a good share of chinese culture n produced a number of historical Chinese 名人.The school name often appear in Chinese local paper when discuss about Chinese history.
                    But sad to say, I don’t feel the Chinese culture at all. Hence, I tell myself . Cannot depend on school. I have to put in my own effort to push up her Chinese .

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                    • N Offline
                      nms1
                      last edited by

                      Laura02:
                      Ya hor! It would require more manpower to monitor PV hours put in, so ... in order to not further burden the teachers, get other volunteers to do it. Actually, to really be fair, applicants from all phases should do volunteer work in school. So, for phase 1, parents of existing pupils should do PV work in school for a stipulated number of hours for their 2nd child to gain admission under phase 1.

                      For phase 2a, alumni should also do a stipulated number of hours before they qualify for phase 2a. Same goes for phase 2b.
                      Then get a volunteer from one phase to do the administrative affairs for volunteers from another phase.
                      I think that's taking it a bit far. You are saying that for someone like me with 3 children, I have to volunteer 3 times! We do have jobs to do.

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                      • M Offline
                        magiccastle
                        last edited by

                        Ya. I agreed. With 3 children , u have done your part of national service n contributed to the birth rate of singapore. Yet cannot piggyback on the elder sibling connection to the school for school registration. It is contrary to the govt policy of encouraging families to have more children.

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