GEP and IQ
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Haha, first time I hear MOE promised such things. Even scholars aren’t given white horse treatment. White horse treatment is birth right, not something u can earn from scholarships or being in GEP. It’s because of who your father or mother or grandfather is.
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There should be a reason for MOE skimming 5% of main cohort to join the GEP programme. Besides learning abilites, I think they are looking for something else with these 5%. They won’t simply wasting time in conducting GEP screening test end Aug and middle Oct for P3 kids.
I know 2 persons age abt 38-39 in which they were the first batch when GEP was introduced. The guy was from Fairfield Methodist, transferred to ACS Barker, RI and RJC, NUS. After pursuing law degree and practised as a lawyer for few years. In the end give up everything to become full time pastor.
The other lady was in RGPS, RGS, RJC, went to London for University. Pursuing career as SIA air-stewardess. Served 6 years contract, quit to become Republic Poly lecturer -
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You are mistaken. There is not such promise of smooth sailing.
Maybe that child’s behaviour is not due to his EQ or IQ, but is so because of his mother.[/quote]
You are right. The whole family is quite strange. This guy is their only son. -
The idea of GEP program is to cater for the education of the students who are able to learn faster and pick up advanced topic easier (note: on their own).
Without the program, some of these students could otherwise be ‘bored’ or not able to fit in to the mainstream structure of studies, because it just doesn’t suit them. They may end up not realizing their potential.
What they eventually achieve is nothing the MOE or anyone can promise. Anyone who does well, be it mainstream or GEP or home school etc can do just as well.
MOE is just helping to identify these students who may be better suited with this format of education, they are not ‘scholars’, or ‘meant to-be groomed’ just because they are in the GEP, it’s just too early to tell how they will do in studies, in work, in life.
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friendship:
Not all GEP will get scholar and not all scholar will become Chief-of-XXX. We don't have so many Chief-of-XXX in SG and once appointed will serve for 10yrs or so. Just imagine there are ~500 geppers each year, how can everyone become scholar or white-horse? I would say the top positions will probably be taken by scholar but not the other way round. Which means not all scholar will eventually be given top positions.We know from our contacts, her son is now 23 years old. GEP student when he was 10 years old. Went to ACS I, IB programme. During NS time, not even clinched an officer rank. Applied for scholarship was rejected interview failed. Reason: the parents said their son's EQ is a hindrance.
What pissed us off, the mother expects every child to follow her son's style. Instead of playing or socialising with friends, her son will read book at one corner when he was younger till today. The mother will ask other children to keep quiet and read books, she can't stand the laughter of children.
I thought MOE GEP branch is promising their GEP students a 'Smooth' sailing education ranging from scholarship, white-horse treatment in NS, future CNB and SCDF Commissioner something like that. -
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Talking about White Horse, I am only aware that this status can be found in their medical document. I remember one of my mate was a judge's son and they only discovered it after he fell and bruised his shin. From there onwards, he missed most of BMT!! -
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Not meaning to start a debate here with anyone. Just sharing what we personally went through during P1 to P3. Bottomline, with or without IQ report hasn't made a difference to her learning experience in school. At home, sky is the limit to learning
At the very least, an IQ report lets the parents understand that their child is not the \"problem child\" the teacher(s) made him/her out to be.
I'm just arguing _for_ an IQ test if you suspect your child is somewhat different, as opposed to being indifferent and just \"let nature takes its course\" with the child.
Apparently, you did that (doing the IQ test) with your child too. I'm glad things turned out well.
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When I took my GEP test 4 years ago, I passed the first round. Then 2nd round I couldn't pass and so, didn't change primary school XD
Partially quite happy I didn't change schools All my good friends are here! -
In MOE website reading Scholarship topic, it stated that GEP students are given scholarship for the rest of their education. Is it true?
If GEP are eventually lead to the same as mainstreamers in career and life, why P3 parents are so kan chiong going for GEP Training. Some are not even real GEP, no wonder some children complaint they felt stressful. Real GEPers should enjoy the programme instead of stress. -
Friendship
The scholarship is based on them retaining their GEP status meaning they need to score well. Even main streamers who score well can get scholarship.
Some parents simply like the prestige associated with GEP. That’s why they push non Gifted children through tuitions to get in. But these pp won’t survive in the GEP system becoz it is rigorous. Only those who are really gifted can stay easily.
Eventually they go out to start their career the same way as others. Pp will look at their degrees. If they are gifted and able to score well, then they will move up the ladder quickly. But if they don’t score well, even if they were in GEP wouldn’t make a difference. I think you are confused that you associate GEP students with good scoring children. They may not in the same group. I studied with many GEP students before and these pp are so brilliant that they can play all day and still juggle many things and school work. Their thread of thoughts are complex and you can tell just by talking to them. When I had difficulties in my sch work, I went to them for help. They didn’t even need tuition ok? These are the truly gifted pp. It is not something parents can change if their kids aren’t in the first place.
So prestigious or not, I think we should just let it be. If our kids are gifted, we should let them bloom. If they aren’t, we should just find out what they excel in and help them. Don’t need to add additional stress if they can’t do it.
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