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    Scholarships should be based on merit, not nationality: Baey

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      concern2
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      Came across an interesting article on Scholarships:


      \"It’s not about how many foreign scholars attain upper class honours. It’s about how many Singaporeans attain upper class honours but were denied scholarships.

      This is how our society treats us and our parents who pay taxes. They’d rather give scholarships to others than their own. They’d rather leave us with the burden of debts from pursuing our tertiary education than offer each promising Singaporean a ~$24,000 scholarship. The S$6000 annual living allowance awarded to foreign scholars can nearly fully finance the annual university tuition fees of one Singaporean. That’s all we’re asking for. We’re not asking for an allowance for food and accomodation like the kind of scholarship that is dished out to foreign scholars. We’re just asking for free tertiary education for Singapore students with potential.\"

      (source: http://thethinkingfishtank.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/scholarships-for-foreigners-debts-for-singaporeans/)

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        raysusan
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        concern2:
        Came across an interesting article on Scholarships:


        \"It’s not about how many foreign scholars attain upper class honours. It’s about how many Singaporeans attain upper class honours but were denied scholarships.

        This is how our society treats us and our parents who pay taxes. They’d rather give scholarships to others than their own. They’d rather leave us with the burden of debts from pursuing our tertiary education than offer each promising Singaporean a ~$24,000 scholarship. The S$6000 annual living allowance awarded to foreign scholars can nearly fully finance the annual university tuition fees of one Singaporean. That’s all we’re asking for. We’re not asking for an allowance for food and accomodation like the kind of scholarship that is dished out to foreign scholars. We’re just asking for free tertiary education for Singapore students with potential.\"

        (source: http://thethinkingfishtank.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/scholarships-for-foreigners-debts-for-singaporeans/)
        how about this.....

        [quote]The spate of criticism against the PRC “scholar” Sun Xu is an episode that is in long overdue, and I am surprised such an incident has not occurred much sooner. “Foreign talents” (and I use this phrase very loosely) imported by the PAP are no longer what they used to be like in the 1990s. Even the Singapore government has admitted that their foreigner pets are no better than local peasants; about two thirds of their imported foreigners graduate from local universities with a 2nd-upper honors classification or higher, compared to about half of the local students.

        How can these foreigners be classified as “talent” if they are not significantly better than locals? In contrast, 40% of the Indian American population in the US (of which a large majority are immigrants and arguably real foreign talents) have post graduate degrees, which is FIVE times the national average in US.

        Thanks to the PAP pro-foreigners policy and their collaborators in the local universities, Singapore tax payers are giving out free money to foreigners via scholarships that are *EXCLUSIVELY AWARDED* to non-Singaporeans that is numbering in the value of millions of dollars. Such awards are being given away by the boatload, and competitive local talents such as myself (please refer to my previous article “NUS Denies Scholarship to Top Local Talent” (http://www.tremeritus.com/2011/07/18/nus-denies-scholarship-to-top-local-talent/) have been marginalized in favor for sub-standard foreigners like Sun Xu.

        It is truly uniquely Singapore that a good majority of the scholarships available to undergraduates are targeted directly at non-Singaporeans, specifically from countries such as the PRC, India and the other ASEAN nations. You will hardly see this phenomenon in other developed countries (e.g. US, Canada, UK) where their scholarships (also known as fellowships) are mostly awarded to their citizens. It is also truly uniquely Singapore that the government (i.e. MOE) would provide tuition subsidies to all students regardless of nationality, whereas in other developed countries foreign students will always be on the much higher non-resident (aka foreigner) tuition rate.

        Lastly, unlike other developed countries where the foreign student after graduation would need to find a job in order to get “sponsorship” for a work visa, in Singapore we have the unique system where we require most of these foreigners to remain and work in Singapore for 3 years even if they are NO BETTER QUALIFIED OR CAPABLE than local graduates.

        In light of Singapore’s “unique” approach to “Foreign Talents” is it really so difficult to understand why local fresh graduates cannot find gainful employment?[/quote]

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          Dad42
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          caroline3sg:
          Dad42:


          Some PRC even disappear after gradution and not returning to Singapore to serve their bonds. It is like taking our money and not returning back. Yet this silly garment still keep offering scholarship to them. :yikes:

          I remember reading somewhere that S'pore govt wants to raise the standard of NUS/NTU internationally (there is list of ranking Ivy League, Oxford, Cambridge etc etc) hence grant scholarships based on merit. Just like in the sports arena - Li Jia Wei, Tao Li, bringing medals for S'pore so that the world knows S'pore can be well known in sports too. 😆

          If he serve and win for Singapore and not calling our parents dog!

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            friendship
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            I know in some primary school or sec school. There is a team in the school whose job is to travel outside Singapore giving scholarship forms and inviting those students for interviews.


            Enrichment fee such as Learning Lab or Hua Language Centre, lodging, school fees and daily allowance capped at a certain amt are fully paid by the school.

            School has this money because MOE allocated the funds. Where is MOE income come from? Tax payers.

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              mgnvr
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              These are scholars. They shouldn’t be taking enrichment fees.

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                Fat Mama
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                DS Sec 3 in IP school. There are 8 PRC scholars in his class of 30. They are either 1 or 2 yrs older than SG kids.


                No doubt they are very good in Maths and Science but weak in English. They attend different Eng lesson as SG kids and the School provide 2 hrs daily of English tuition after school for them. They stayed in sch dorm, food and pocket money provided and teachers assigned to be their guardian to take care of them.

                If our SG kids are weak in Chinese, Physics, Chem, Maths etc... does the Schools provide 2 hrs daily tuition to help our kids???? No, we have to pay for tuition ourselves. :mad: :mad:

                Some of his PRC classmates are good but some are loners and have attitude problems. DS has problem getting his group mate to do project work. :frustrated: :frustrated: How to cooperate and be friendly to them?

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                  Mawar
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                  Wonder if those in charge would think differently if the money is theirs? Would they pay for their kids’ education or dole out money freely to bright kids outside their house?


                  Sometimes I feel that the current leaders have forgotten about the sacrifices of the people who helped build up the kitty, but focus on earning their own brownie points in the name of some obscure abstract national policy. I also suspect that these leaders are overfed and their own kids are well provided for.

                  I dont get it. Why are the foreign scholarships doled out without bonds? Are we doing our part as good citizens of the world? We have arrived? Think most of us missed the good boat then.

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                    friendship
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                    Fat Mama:
                    DS Sec 3 in IP school. There are 8 PRC scholars in his class of 30. They are either 1 or 2 yrs older than SG kids.


                    No doubt they are very good in Maths and Science but weak in English. They attend different Eng lesson as SG kids and the School provide 2 hrs daily of English tuition after school for them. They stayed in sch dorm, food and pocket money provided and teachers assigned to be their guardian to take care of them.

                    If our SG kids are weak in Chinese, Physics, Chem, Maths etc... does the Schools provide 2 hrs daily tuition to help our kids???? No, we have to pay for tuition ourselves. :mad: :mad:

                    Some of his PRC classmates are good but some are loners and have attitude problems. DS has problem getting his group mate to do project work. :frustrated: :frustrated: How to cooperate and be friendly to them?

                    So this is true. Different schools have different way of doing enrichment.
                    One reputable girls' school secondary, their China scholars are in Learning Lab. They are about 5 of them in the same class as my friend's dd. The girl asked those china girls where they are staying, they told her they stay in dorm and they are scholars, everything school paid.

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                      Fat Mama
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                      This year DS school cut down number of PRC scholars from 50+ to 30+.

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                        Chenonceau
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                        friendship:
                        Fat Mama:

                        DS Sec 3 in IP school. There are 8 PRC scholars in his class of 30. They are either 1 or 2 yrs older than SG kids.


                        No doubt they are very good in Maths and Science but weak in English. They attend different Eng lesson as SG kids and the School provide 2 hrs daily of English tuition after school for them. They stayed in sch dorm, food and pocket money provided and teachers assigned to be their guardian to take care of them.

                        If our SG kids are weak in Chinese, Physics, Chem, Maths etc... does the Schools provide 2 hrs daily tuition to help our kids???? No, we have to pay for tuition ourselves. :mad: :mad:

                        Some of his PRC classmates are good but some are loners and have attitude problems. DS has problem getting his group mate to do project work. :frustrated: :frustrated: How to cooperate and be friendly to them?


                        So this is true. Different schools have different way of doing enrichment.
                        One reputable girls' school secondary, their China scholars are in Learning Lab. They are about 5 of them in the same class as my friend's dd. The girl asked those china girls where they are staying, they told her they stay in dorm and they are scholars, everything school paid.

                        :rotflmao: This is too funny. MOE itself recognises the superiority of TLL in the provision of a quality education. Why not sign an MOU with TLL? Educators have to pay tuition centres to teach their scholars? So why is MOE blaming parents for the tuition culture by saying that parents send children to unnecessary tuition?

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