All Schools are GOOD Schools
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ksi:
All schools EXPECT the same from the students? All schools operate with \"Teach Less, Learn More\"?
Yes, that's very true. Some schools are teaching just bare minimum. Some schools perceived to be good are NOT as what one would expect. Academic driven schools are expecting students to produce stellar results but are not doing their part...they teach less, so students have to go elsewhere to learn more. Then when students do well and can handle those high standard of exams set, teachers set even higher standard. :stupid: :siao: -
Good is a relative term. I happen to visit a few schools in woodlands today for some volunteering work. There are many Malaysia buses outside a neigbourhood school, many parents choose to send their children across the border to Singapore. Most of them in morning session will have to leave their house at 5am. In another secondary school, I listen to a family seeking finiancial aid despite all their family difficulties, they choose to have their children study in Singapore and the school fees they have to pay as a foreigner is $320.
On the whole, Singapore schools are good. However, they are not the same "good". Some are better academically. Nevertheless, the criteria of a good school should not be just being preparing children to be good in academic. -
wonderm:
The Full ST Article:Chenonceau:
[quote=\"MummyThreeStreams\"]Sorry ah, but can someone point me to the report/speech/statement from MOE/Minister MOE saying that \"all schools are good schools\" or that \"all schools are the same\"?
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_770194.html
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Education Minister Heng Swee Keat said on Thursday that he would give details about the study of the Primary 1 registration process in due course.
In the meantime, he wanted to assure parents that all schools are good, including neighbourhood ones.
The Straits Times reported on Thursday that the Ministry of Education (MOE) is studying how to improve the Primary 1 registration scheme, which has been criticised for giving too much priority to children with connections to a school.
MOE said reviews of the registration framework are done regularly, taking into consideration public feedback.
There are six phases in all, with siblings of children already in a school receiving top priority.
Next come the children of alumni, parent volunteers or those with church or clan connections.
They are then followed by all Singaporeans and permanent residents, with non-citizens last in the pecking order.
If any phase is oversubscribed, priority is given to those who live nearby.
Some parents have complained that the scheme is unfairly weighted in favour of alumni, some of whom may not play an active role in the school, and those with church or clan connections.
But the loudest calls have been to give priority to children who live closest to the school of their choice.
Mr Heng declined to give more details about the study but said that he 'will make a statement on this at an appropriate time'.
He told reporters on the sidelines of an event at the Institute of Technical Education College East: 'It is important that I want to focus my efforts first and foremost on raising the overall standards of all schools.
'And we find that we have many good schools in all of our neighbourhoods. I think it is important for us to let parents know what our schools are doing.'
He added: 'I am encouraging our principals to go out and keep parents informed of all the new and interesting things that they have been doing over the years.
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The blue part was what he said, not quite the same as the red part which was the reporter's interpretation?[/quote]I find the comments in blue fair and balanced. Didn't allude to the point that all schools are good or equal for that matter. -
I like what he said about this...and I hope it happens FAST.
Quote: 'I think it is important for us to let parents know what our schools are doing.' -
wonderm:
Wonderm... thanks a bunch for sharing. I feel very VERY heartened by the part in blue.
He told reporters on the sidelines of an event at the Institute of Technical Education College East: 'It is important that I want to focus my efforts first and foremost on raising the overall standards of all schools.wonderm:
I feel less sanguine about the part in red. Last year, DS' school principal used up many many Teacher hours to organise a showcase of what Teachers do in school. DS had to go too, to showcase his very cool experiment, which he set up with MY help and MY guidance. I would have preferred that his Teachers mark more work.He added:'I am encouraging our principals to go out and keep parents informed of all the new and interesting things that they have been doing over the years.
I know what DS' Teachers do in school. They don't mark work properly (if at all) and teach faithfully from the insufficient textbooks. Marking is THE single most powerful way a teacher can communicate individually with the child ESPECIALLY if the class is very large. Even marking is either not done or done wrong with Teacher making more spelling mistakes than my DS.
Marking well and thoroughly is a basic. Get the basics right before you move into the future. If Teacher can get the basics right and textbooks are sufficient, learning effectiveness will already improve greatly without any new cool stuff... or showcases. -
Nebbermind:
All Schools are GOOD Schools, but some are GOODER than others!!
:rotflmao: Better keep this statement away from our children, otherwise they will start using \"gooder\"
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Nebbermind:
u guys seriously believe that elite schools can teach better???
Not really, from what I found out. But the important thing is the Parents of the kids. Most of the parents who try real hard to put their kids into these better schools are competitive and willing to make sure their kids do really well. I met many parents from these top schools, they confirmed to me that their children's teachers were sucked! from P1 to P6. I was dumbfounded. -
I may be off topic but I think what made a school good really depend on the teacher . My gal is P4 now, yet has changed 3 primary schools. The neighbourhood school does not expose them to challenging questions prior to exams, the "better ones" gives her a stack of "onsponge" maths questions, not sure if this was taught in class or not. End result, no value added . So, my conclusion is, it is the teacher that made a difference in the kid’s academic, and this teacher is assigned randomly by MOE. So depends on luck la…
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lim72:
Absolutely agree with that!! Some of these schools are uber competitive among the children/parents. The environment just generate by itself without much push from the schools.Nebbermind:
u guys seriously believe that elite schools can teach better???
Not really, from what I found out. But the important thing is the Parents of the kids. Most of the parents who try real hard to put their kids into these better schools are competitive and willing to make sure their kids do really well. I met many parents from these top schools, they confirmed to me that their children's teachers were sucked! from P1 to P6. I was dumbfounded.
Some schools react, perhaps they know they can make full use of this attitude to improve their 'quality passes'.
Others may just site back coz they really sympathize with these kids (who, like some said, have 10 enrichment!!). Why deprive them of a childhood because of PSLE?!
Actually, a school is only good when your needs are met!! Since we all have different needs....and meet different teachers....we can argue on and on and on and on....... -
I Voted "NO".
Based on my tutoring experience for Secondary Schools, the quality of the material and worksheets differ greatly. Those better schools have better quality worksheets that explain concepts in greatly detail to allow students to understand better, including some of the teacher’s own effort explaining in their own words. Some schools, the teacher simply copy from textbooks and put inside so call "handouts"… duplicate of information… and the teachers attitude is also bochap, as told by the students.
For the better schools, normally I just need to explain how to tackle more challenging and difficult question and impart some analytical skills. For the no good schools, have to actually teach the students the basic and they practically learn nothing much from the schools…
As for Primary schools, I hv no experience but Better schools seems to have better materials to help students.
It is a fact that schools are different. But, as I mentioned in the P1 threads… The basis for formulating priority schemes have to be based on "all schools are the same"… or else nothing can progress. And the impact of a school on a student is difficult to say also…
Getting into elite/branded school don’t guarantee good results… but getting into a faraway school definitely is added strain on the child and the parents.
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