Opinions of the Primary School Registration System
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Food for thought:
1) Will there / Is there a conflict of interest when Pri Sch teachers enrol their children in the school they are teaching?
2) Is it feasible to let (all: pri and sec) teachers enjoy the privilege of enrolling their children in any school of their choice? -
krazy:
Food for thought:
1) Will there / Is there a conflict of interest when Pri Sch teachers enrol their children in the school they are teaching?
2) Is it feasible to let (all: pri and sec) teachers enjoy the privilege of enrolling their children in any school of their choice?
(1) Not really. As long as the teachers do not teach in the same level which their children are studying.
(2) Then it is just purely unfair advantage. At same school is reasonable for logistic reason. No reason for different school. Moreover, this may result in big swamp of teachers' children from all over to the few more popular schools in Singapore or within an area. -
I supposed so. But then again, there will always be rumours, when the child does well, and when the child doesn't.
tankee:
(1) Not really. As long as the teachers do not teach in the same level which their children are studying.
Hahaha.. May not happen too because there are really not that many teachers with Pri 1 going children in that particular year. And I think teachers also have sense not to put their children at the other end of the island simply because the school is reputed.
But it was just a thought. Teachers spend a lot of time teaching and coaching and counselling other people's children, yet when it comes to their own, ... . For now, the only consolation is that they hope their fellow colleagues in the other schools will take care of their children like they would others.tankee:
(2) Then it is just purely unfair advantage. At same school is reasonable for logistic reason. No reason for different school. Moreover, this may result in big swamp of teachers' children from all over to the few more popular schools in Singapore or within an area.
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I have a frn who teaches in that most popular Hokkien Huay Kuan school for 2 yrs just to get her daughter into the school. Needless to say, her daughter got in this year and now she is planning to leave the school for private teaching which earn more $$$.
According to her, this method is a sure win method, apart from alumni.
Too bad, I don’t have any NIE cert. Dont tink the top schools will accept just anyone to be teachers right? How abt support dept staffs, any idea if by joining say IT or admin dept of the schools i will have a better chance? -
Seems that the impending change in primary one registration will not include changes to the PR kids after all.
To me, PR kids’ priority shld be placed after singaporean, and before foreigners.
No matter what PR are usually more mobile and they can easily rent near the good schools. Unlike us, to sell our flat and get another flat near our preferred school will be more difficult and costly. so what if we are given 1 more balloting slip vs PR, we will still not get our chance if they rent within 1 Km and we stay btw 1-2km!
So even if we both stay within the same 1km, a heng PR vs a sway citizen, even if u give a sway citizen 10 balloting slips and the lucky PR 1 slip, the PR may just get the place. Then can only blame luck… Haiz…
Anyway, don’t think that PR dunno or don’t care abt schools…PR is as kiasu as sporeans!!! Especially those educated PR, they are targetting at schools like ACS, MGS. Look around these schools and u will realize its quite multi national. And it’s also much easier for them to rent bt timah area than us, spending exorbitant prices on property in that area. -
crystalbelle08:
:goodpost:Seems that the impending change in primary one registration will not include changes to the PR kids after all.
To me, PR kids' priority shld be placed after singaporean, and before foreigners.
No matter what PR are usually more mobile and they can easily rent near the good schools. Unlike us, to sell our flat and get another flat near our preferred school will be more difficult and costly. so what if we are given 1 more balloting slip vs PR, we will still not get our chance if they rent within 1 Km and we stay btw 1-2km!
So even if we both stay within the same 1km, a heng PR vs a sway citizen, even if u give a sway citizen 10 balloting slips and the lucky PR 1 slip, the PR may just get the place. Then can only blame luck... Haiz...
Anyway, don't think that PR dunno or don't care abt schools...PR is as kiasu as sporeans!!! Especially those educated PR, they are targetting at schools like ACS, MGS. Look around these schools and u will realize its quite multi national. And it's also much easier for them to rent bt timah area than us, spending exorbitant prices on property in that area.
Totally agreed ... Our roots r here is it's very difficult for us to move to 1km of the sch as we also need to stay near parent/in laws n ah gong/ ah ma too. -
It's been a long time since I've been posting in KSP as I've been busy with my newborn.
My opinion:
What is the purpose of setting up an ALUMNI in each school?
It is to allow students who have benefitted from that school's efforts and system to continue serving the school and give back to the current school.
Take a look a schools with strong alumni support, the alumni do put in a lot of effort to aid the school to progress in their systems and programs for the existing and future students.
Isn't it fair for these ex-students to have priority to place their children in a school which they helped to build?
Be it ex-students who just graduated from the school or graduated many many many years ago, all have contributed to the school in one way or another.
When I was in primary school, we were involved in 1001 fund raising programs to improve the schools facilities. By the time they were built, I didn't get to enjoy them. Did I bear grudges? NO! I know my one day, when I have children, they might possibly enjoy the fruit of my labour.
My contributions benefitted the next few batches of students and similarly, I would want my children to study in the school I'm so proud of. I can proudly say: I had a hand in raising funds for the school you are studying in.
If this phase is scrapped, what next?
There's no perfect system. There will definitely be unhappy parents one way or another. Especially since many young couples now think ahead in their family planning, they would have probably bought houses near their alma maters in hope that their soon-to-come children will benefit from staying near the school.
Instead of causing an uproar on changing the system, why not focus on how to help those 'not-so-popular' schools improve and make them 'popular'?
Time spent on this issue can be better spent on thinking of ways to allocate more budget to those schools without strong alumni backing so that they can offer the same programs and opportunities to their students.
How about school teachers? Priority for their kids?
And, as an ex-school teacher, I would say it would be fair to give teachers priority to register in schools within 3-5km radius from their house or current school.
Being a teacher, it's hard for us to take leave to be parent volunteers. Even if we manage to get leave, it would most likely be spent catching up on lesson planning, creating worksheets, marking students' work or slaving on the endless admin work. They sacrifice a lot of personal and family time. It's not a job that ends when the bell rings. Yes, they are paid salary, but if you calculate their salary based on the multiple roles they take and the long hours, they are paid less than factory workers.
Allowing priority at all schools would be a little too much, just schools near the homes or workplace would be fair enough.
And many do not know this, but the current priority for staff of existing schools only applies to primary school teachers.
Secondary school teachers do not enjoy any priority unless they are teaching in full schools (e.g. St Nicholas).
I believe we are all worried and unsure of our next move for our children's P1 registration. I really hope that there will be a conclusion fast, so that parents have ample time to make plans. -
mrswongtuition:
:goodpost:It's been a long time since I've been posting in KSP as I've been busy with my newborn.
My opinion:
What is the purpose of setting up an ALUMNI in each school?
It is to allow students who have benefitted from that school's efforts and system to continue serving the school and give back to the current school.
Take a look a schools with strong alumni support, the alumni do put in a lot of effort to aid the school to progress in their systems and programs for the existing and future students.
Isn't it fair for these ex-students to have priority to place their children in a school which they helped to build?
Be it ex-students who just graduated from the school or graduated many many many years ago, all have contributed to the school in one way or another.
When I was in primary school, we were involved in 1001 fund raising programs to improve the schools facilities. By the time they were built, I didn't get to enjoy them. Did I bear grudges? NO! I know my one day, when I have children, they might possibly enjoy the fruit of my labour.
My contributions benefitted the next few batches of students and similarly, I would want my children to study in the school I'm so proud of. I can proudly say: I had a hand in raising funds for the school you are studying in.
If this phase is scrapped, what next?
There's no perfect system. There will definitely be unhappy parents one way or another. Especially since many young couples now think ahead in their family planning, they would have probably bought houses near their alma maters in hope that their soon-to-come children will benefit from staying near the school.
Instead of causing an uproar on changing the system, why not focus on how to help those 'not-so-popular' schools improve and make them 'popular'?
Time spent on this issue can be better spent on thinking of ways to allocate more budget to those schools without strong alumni backing so that they can offer the same programs and opportunities to their students.
How about school teachers? Priority for their kids?
And, as an ex-school teacher, I would say it would be fair to give teachers priority to register in schools within 3-5km radius from their house or current school.
Being a teacher, it's hard for us to take leave to be parent volunteers. Even if we manage to get leave, it would most likely be spent catching up on lesson planning, creating worksheets, marking students' work or slaving on the endless admin work. They sacrifice a lot of personal and family time. It's not a job that ends when the bell rings. Yes, they are paid salary, but if you calculate their salary based on the multiple roles they take and the long hours, they are paid less than factory workers.
Allowing priority at all schools would be a little too much, just schools near the homes or workplace would be fair enough.
And many do not know this, but the current priority for staff of existing schools only applies to primary school teachers.
Secondary school teachers do not enjoy any priority unless they are teaching in full schools (e.g. St Nicholas).
I believe we are all worried and unsure of our next move for our children's P1 registration. I really hope that there will be a conclusion fast, so that parents have ample time to make plans. -
:goodpost: :salute: i raise both hands and legs to support! :salute: :goodpost: :grphug:
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Totally agree that alumni system should be kept. It’s for the benefit of our future grandchildren… our own Singaporean citizens as this is possibly the only phrase that foreigners or PR have no control over.
PR may be selected over citizens, as volunteers if they have the special skills or "resources" a particular school need, since selection is so subjective.
PR can also rent a place next to the school while we don’t have the flexibility like them.
Only alumni is something they can’t have, so please, at least help our future generation so they don’t have to fight with PR right from the start.
In fact I am already very worried that when our kids grow up, they will not be able to find jobs easily with such tough competition and "hungry"foreigners in our land. Unless we really drill our kids to score better, if not we will definite loss out as our children are too used to good life and not as "hungry"as them. Look at the usual top scorers trend and we will know…
Sorry…back to this topic, so all we can is to give them a good head start in the choice school, the rest is dependent on how they can strive in this competitive world.
Hence alumni is crucial for our next, next next, next next next generations…
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