MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni
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what is the definition of a Volunteer ?
refer dictionary:-
A volunteer is a person who voluntarily offers himself or herself for a service or undertaking willingly, without pay, without any hidden intention nor motive to receive any benefit in return.
WHO are the ones that can truly offer altruistic Volunteer services, without expecting anything back in return ?
plenty !
1) Parents with children already enrolled in primary schools, in Primary 1 and 2.
example:
SCGS, MGS - anytime the school need help, just a phone call to round up parents with kids already enrolled inside the school will do. They will come down, offer help in whatever areas need help.
just mobilize this huge group is more than enough.
you know how big this group is ?
each year P1 intake abt 250 to 300 parents.
combine (P1 and P2) means ... around 600 parents.
more than enough parents on standby, to service our school anytime.
is like on call, doing \"national service\" to our school.
2) is those parents who are ALUMNI under phase 2A.
this is the group who knows the school best every detailed nitty gritty in and out, having spent 6 long years in primary school that mould us up, with correct education and right moral values. This is the group that binds emotional ties well with their alma mater.
once MOE announce all alumni must be active made compulsory - no more sleeping, this huge group of parents will flock back to school imediately, start clocking up active Parent Volunteer roles + clock up active Alumni activities. In short, we the Alumni will return school, and take over all the PV roles, over and above performing our own alumni roles. After all, are we not the ones 30 years ago, build up reputation of our own school painstakingly over several long years, through time and tide ?
Have you ever worked in an organization and tell your boss,
\"hey, boss i am very important, you know. I am not replaceable.\"
Try telling your boss that - see whether your boss will fire you, first to kick you out, see whether or not you're replaceable ! Making so much noise!
definitely, there is no such thing as - PVs not replacable.
There are always alternative work around solution.
We the 2A alumni will manage both, will mobilize all parents to come back at once and SERVE in our alma mater. Just a phone call away will do the job. The alumni will take over the PV roles as well.
once we round up enough alumni, internally we the alumni will split ourselves into 2 groups - one group perform alumni activities (eg: raise funds to fund and support all school's activities), another group perform usual PV roles. All these activities will be reported to our Principal every month - monthly report progress, plus another quarterly progress report. Principal will know at the tip of her finger readily, which alumni is involved with what activity, who's doing what ?
see, the alumni are on call to come back anytime, ready to do \"national service\" to our alma mater.
once this is implemented, nobody will dare to accuse a finger at any alumni anymore, \"See! This alumni is sleeping. Hence, they don't deserve to send kids back to their school.\"
just mobile this huge group is more than enough.
conclusion:-
mobilize above 2 groups - is more than enough to form TRUE, ALTRUISTIC, SINCERE \"Parent Volunteers\", without any expectation, hidden agenda or motive behind !
these 2 groups - P1 / P2 parents with kids currently studying / enrolled in school plus 2A alumni - can form such a HUGE group that do not need any outsider 2B anymore, creating so much complaints, kicking up great fuss, commotion, headache for everybody. 2B as an outsider haven't even come into the school, creating so much din, noise, commotion, headache!
note:-
Rosyth, a very hot popular school, had already set the precedent and the trend for all other schools to follow - had already abolished PV. -
then teachers should be just like uni professors, walk in LT, bla bla bla … walk out when time’s up
those principals and teachers who open car door at the road side every morning, doing umbrella service on rainy days, certainly make themselves look like fools -
phtthp:
:goodpost: i raise both hands and legs to support! :salute:what is the definition of a Volunteer ?
refer dictionary:-
A volunteer is a person who voluntarily offers himself or herself for a service or undertaking willingly, without pay, without any hidden intention nor motive to receive any benefit in return.
WHO are the ones that can truly offer altruistic Volunteer services, without expecting anything back in return ?
plenty !
1) Parents with children already enrolled in primary schools, in Primary 1 and 2.
example:
SCGS, MGS - anytime the school need help, just a phone call to round up parents with kids already enrolled inside the school will do. They will come down, offer help in whatever areas need help.
just mobilize this huge group is more than enough.
2) is those parents who are ALUMNI under phase 2A.
this is the group who knows the school best, having spent 6 long years in primary school that mould us up, with correct education and right moral values. This is the group that binds emotional ties well with their alma mater.
once MOE announce all alumni must be active made compulsory - no more sleeping, this huge group of parents will flock back to school imediately, start clocking up active Parent Volunteer roles + clock up active Alumni activities. In short, we the Alumni will return school, and take over all the PV roles, over and above performing our own alumni roles. After all, are we not the ones 30 years ago, build up reputation of our own school ?
definitely, there is no such thing as PVs - not replacable.
once this is implemented, nobody will dare to accuse the alumni anymore, \"See! All the alumni are sleeping. Hence, they don't deserve to send kids back to their school.\"
just mobile this huge group is more than enough.
conclusion:-
mobilize above 2 groups - is more than enough to form TRUE, ALTRUISTIC, SINCERE \"Parent Volunteers\", without any expectation, hidden agenda or motive behind ! -
jedamum:
:goodpost:what type of jobs parent volunteers are assigned to do to clock pv hours are immaterial if the ultimate objective is Phase2B priority (priority, not guarantee). so why the need to dig up and comment what type of jobs they will be requested to do? parents not happy,don't pv la. but i reckon most of the time, the main grouses came from the pv selection, not the nature of the pv jobs itself. by saying that such are 'meaningless', are we not saying that teachers who do
•Contributing to National Wushu Championship
•Traffic warden, assist in administrative work in the office
•Putting on make-up for cheerleaders, ferrying kids in between CCAs
•Escorting kids to the toilet
•Chaperons for excursions
•Buying groceries for parties
•Making sure kids don’t log on to Facebook during computer class
•Canteen duty
•Unpacking boxes, stacking, labelling of library books
•Manning game stalls
•Worst of all, acting in ridiculous skits
are all wasting their time? maybe that's why teachers are moody and don't teach as effectively these days?
i will gladly pv for the sch that is less than 500m from my place with a shot at getting a better priority in an earlier phase and wash their fish tanks if only they have fish tanks for me to wash. even if they have fish tanks, who is to decide which parent is a better fish tank washer? -
Nebbermind:
Naughtie post!jedamum:
i will gladly pv for the sch that is less than 500m from my place with a shot at getting a better priority in an earlier phase and wash their fish tanks if only they have fish tanks for me to wash. even if they have fish tanks, who is to decide which parent is a better fish tank washer?
then perhaps they should have different phases for PV...going by distance, ie, those living nearer get to choose type of task 1st, and if still cannot decide, then ballot!! :evil:
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phtthp:
Many schools have this in place.what is the definition of a Volunteer ?
refer dictionary:-
A volunteer is a person who voluntarily offers himself or herself for a service or undertaking willingly, without pay, without any hidden intention nor motive to receive any benefit in return.
WHO are the ones that can truly offer altruistic Volunteer services, without expecting anything back in return ?
plenty !
1) Parents with children already enrolled in primary schools, in Primary 1 and 2.
example:
SCGS, MGS - anytime the school need help, just a phone call to round up parents with kids already enrolled inside the school will do. They will come down, offer help in whatever areas need help.
just mobilize this huge group is more than enough.
It's the Parent Support Group. (PSG)
They have options for ad-hoc duties even.
Plus it's not just from the P1 and P2 cohorts.
It's the entire 6 levels.
Some schools' PSG are soooo strong and connected they don't need PVs year after year. -
phtthp:
hm...what is the definition of a Volunteer ?
refer dictionary:-
A volunteer is a person who voluntarily offers himself or herself for a service or undertaking willingly, without pay, without any hidden intention nor motive to receive any benefit in return.
WHO are the ones that can truly offer altruistic Volunteer services, without expecting anything back in return ?
plenty !
1) Parents with children already enrolled in primary schools, in Primary 1 and 2.
example:
SCGS, MGS - anytime the school need help, just a phone call to round up parents with kids already enrolled inside the school will do. They will come down, offer help in whatever areas need help.
just mobilize this huge group is more than enough.
2) is those parents who are ALUMNI under phase 2A.
this is the group who knows the school best every detailed nitty gritty in and out, having spent 6 long years in primary school that mould us up, with correct education and right moral values. This is the group that binds emotional ties well with their alma mater.
once MOE announce all alumni must be active made compulsory - no more sleeping, this huge group of parents will flock back to school imediately, start clocking up active Parent Volunteer roles + clock up active Alumni activities. In short, we the Alumni will return school, and take over all the PV roles, over and above performing our own alumni roles. After all, are we not the ones 30 years ago, build up reputation of our own school ?
alumni members who flock back to school immediately for fear of being categorised as sleeping members for the purpose of Phase2A, that in itself is a motive already, no?
even PSG members have some sort of 'motives' in joining PSG...welfare, knowing more about schs, free access into sch, network with teachers etc, no? Parent volunteers with kids already graduated...that then is true definition of volunteers and i know of 1 auntie who does so even when her kid is already in university (and she volunteers at a neighbourhood neighbourhood school)
i am just throwing out my thoughts lah...no support of whichever group to be arrowed as a lot of people will be affected no matter what is the outcome of MOE's decision. -
I was a PV. The P, trs and staff treated me with respect. I knew that there was no guarantee for a place. Any parents who think that being a PV or GRL or as a member of association or under the same religion will guarantee your child a place in the school of your choice do not have eeerrrrrr realistic expectation.
In a situation whereby demand exceeds supply, parents must have plan A, B and even C. Even if the review results in removing all connections, there’s still no guarantee that there’s a place for your child in schools that are popular. Will parents be happier in such a case if they fail to register a place for their child? I doubt so. What to do? Have Plan A, B and even C.
I escaped balloting by a narrow margin. I had Plan A, B and C. -
buds:
Some schools' PSG are soooo strong and connected they don't need PVs year after year.
That's coz the school spirit is VERY strong!! Alot of us presume that it's mostly the alumni who will be active in PSG, but because of the strong spirit, I also noticed alot of spouses of alumni also get their hands wet....then there are also those who noticed how their older child changed by the school and have no qualms to PV when the younger one also enter P1...and they continue on even when the children are much older. -
jedamum:
:goodpost:what type of jobs parent volunteers are assigned to do to clock pv hours are immaterial if the ultimate objective is Phase2B priority (priority, not guarantee). so why the need to dig up and comment what type of jobs they will be requested to do? parents not happy,don't pv la. but i reckon most of the time, the main grouses came from the pv selection, not the nature of the pv jobs itself. by saying that such are 'meaningless', are we not saying that teachers who do
•Contributing to National Wushu Championship
•Traffic warden, assist in administrative work in the office
•Putting on make-up for cheerleaders, ferrying kids in between CCAs
•Escorting kids to the toilet
•Chaperons for excursions
•Buying groceries for parties
•Making sure kids don’t log on to Facebook during computer class
•Canteen duty
•Unpacking boxes, stacking, labelling of library books
•Manning game stalls
•Worst of all, acting in ridiculous skits
are all wasting their time? maybe that's why teachers are moody and don't teach as effectively these days?
i will gladly pv for the sch that is less than 500m from my place with a shot at getting a better priority in an earlier phase and wash their fish tanks if only they have fish tanks for me to wash. even if they have fish tanks, who is to decide which parent is a better fish tank washer?
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