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    • phtthpP Offline
      phtthp
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      :siao: šŸ˜“

      Parent pays $5,800 a month in tuition fees.
      Her son is a straight A student in a top Sec boys' school.

      a mom pay $200 or $250 per hour for people to do son's homework from a top school:- :yikes:
      http://www.edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/news/news/983628/Parent_pays_nearly_6_000_a_month_in_tuition_fees.html

      http://www.tnp.sg/content/parents-why-so-kiasu

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        Chenonceau
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        phtthp:
        :siao: šŸ˜“

        Parent pays $5,800 a month in tuition fees.
        Her son is a straight A student in a top Sec boys' school.

        a mom pay $200 or $250 per hour for people to do son's homework from a top school:- :yikes:
        http://www.edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/news/news/983628/Parent_pays_nearly_6_000_a_month_in_tuition_fees.html

        http://www.tnp.sg/content/parents-why-so-kiasu
        This kind of reports just try to shift the blame to parents again. Parents send kids for tuition so MOE cannot do anything. It's the parents' fault. In reality, a large proportion of parents (many here in this forum) are against tuition, and wouldn't spend on it if schools...

        (1) had better textbooks
        (2) marked students' work more conscientiously
        (3) gave enough skills practice
        (4) shared their resources across the nation

        How many people so rich exist in Singapore? 90% of the population don't have this kind of money so they would much rather NOT spend it on tuition. It's quite amazing that instead of reforming the system intelligently, the people should focus so much effort on COMMUNICATION and ADVERTISING and using the media to shift the focus yet again to parents, when really, system changes will mould a whole new set of parent behaviors.

        The tuition industry has really grown with the introduction of Teach Less Learn More. Just admit that the implementation Teach Less Learn More was a failure because
        (1) in the past, primary school teachers weren't recruited for the level of competence that the PSLE requires today
        (2) the level of difficulty in each subject requires EMS subject specialization
        (3) schools compete like gladiators in the Roman arena for talent, resources and results. They guard their resources so jealously that if you're a kid (in a school that tests HARD and provides NO resources) but with equivalent calibre as another kid (who is in another school that provides good resources), you won't reach your full potential.

        Divide and conquer. Get parents to accuse each other and think each other at fault, and the system can quietly slip away with its culpability unnoticed. Of course crazy parents like this $6000 woman exists. But they are few enough. Very simply, few of us can afford that kind of money. In fact, if I have to spend that kind of money and my DS has to spend that kind of time in order to stay afloat, then I think it is better just to migrate to somewhere more sane.

        Pushing for the above changes benefit all parents who come after us (so it isn't just 2012 PSLE parents' issue alone)... and I hope they will benefit my grandchildren. Younger parents stand to gain MORE if these changes go through. My DS now has to contend with more of the crappy Teach Less Learn More in secondary school History and Geography.

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          doodbug
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          phtthp:
          :siao: šŸ˜“

          Parent pays $5,800 a month in tuition fees.
          Her son is a straight A student in a top Sec boys' school.

          a mom pay $200 or $250 per hour for people to do son's homework from a top school:- :yikes:
          http://www.edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/news/news/983628/Parent_pays_nearly_6_000_a_month_in_tuition_fees.html

          http://www.tnp.sg/content/parents-why-so-kiasu
          whoa I very suaku .... but this was completely shocking to me!! :yikes:

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          • doodbugD Offline
            doodbug
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            $6000 a month? That's a holiday every month hohoho. :idea:


            More than enough to send a child to international school for sec school, and child may have a saner and more fun life. Plus a ton of extra leftover to pursue interests and hobbies.

            Hmm maybe only lazy mamas like me think this way.

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              LOLMum
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              i have heard of such things but didnt know the rate is soooooooooooo good. šŸ˜‰


              come to think of it, it is cheating right?

              some of these work are graded, so by getting some1 else to do it, it is not the work of the student. wow, maybe that is why some students managed to get into the best class but are struggling to float in there. 🤷

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                Strparent
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                This is becoming even more a WARPED society here, with freaking crezy parents like these, throwing this kind of money on 'enrichments'. There are far worthier causes they can contribute to in society.

                As long as these brand schools and banding persist and becoming more emphasized, we will see more and more siao ppl joining in the kiasu bandwagon.
                we already have to bear high healthcare on our own, are we now trending towards footing high education cost as well ? sounds like passing the bucket down the chain, in a systematic manner. But if you have gullibles, ...........who to blame ? :siao:

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                  Chenonceau
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                  LOLMum:
                  come to think of it, it is cheating right?
                  It IS cheating! But the payback will come much later. This is like over carrying a baby. When a baby is small, you can still carry him... then comes a time when the baby wants to try and walk. If the parent insists on carrying that child at that time, the baby will NEVER learn to walk because the developmental window of learning to walk will come and go... and when the baby grows to 15kg and hasn't learnt to walk... well good luck to the parents because it is a VERY heavy load.

                  This system that tests HARD without teaching enough acclimatises children to tuition. This kind of reliance cannot be good for their character and does not build resilience and self-reliance.

                  This parent is in for a RUDE shock when her child gets to his 20s... Sounds like Emperor Pu Yi. Everything was done for him since young. Even in his old age, he had no idea how to wash his underwear!! He was deposed after the developmental window of self-reliance... and he never could learn. Secondary school is the developmental window of self-reliance. Every child is programmed to pull away psychologically and try his/her clumsy steps at psychological self-reliance. We must ready our children before secondary school for self-reliance because we MUST let them go.

                  Or else, we'll have to bear them as burdens when we are old. I would MUCH rather BE a burden than bear one. šŸ˜„ Kekekekekeke!!

                  Can you imagine if this parent's child becomes a scholar? We would have an admin service full of Pu Yi's!! Maybe scholarship boards should only give scholarships out to those WITHOUT tuition.

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                    Champion
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                    Chenonceau:
                    In reality, a large proportion of parents (many here in this forum) are against tuition, and wouldn't spend on it if schools...


                    (1) had better textbooks
                    (2) marked students' work more conscientiously
                    (3) gave enough skills practice
                    (4) shared their resources across the nation
                    (1) had better textbooks
                    This is a BIG concern! :skeptical: I wrote to DD1's subject teacher (SCIENCE) and then to the HOD and this is her reply to me,\" I understand your concern regarding MPAL Science textbooks. These textbooks are approved books by MOE, basically the textbooks cover the essential concepts pupils are expected to know for each theme and topic. The intention of having less written text in the textbooks is to allow pupils to learn Science in an inquiry way, thus in class, teachers do focus a lot on hands-on activities such as experiments conducted using the workbook.\" 🤷 🤷

                    (2) marked students' work more conscientiously
                    I have my reservation regarding this - on one hand I have DD1's one subject T who marked their work consistently and even wrote remarks on the mistakes to hight light key words but on the other hand, there is this subject T who got the class to mark each other's work during supplementary lessons :slapshead:

                    (3) gave enough skills practice
                    regarding practices, I only seen past year school exam papers being dished out to the kids 7~10 days before the exam. While probably this happens only to my DD1's school but somehow the reason given for not enough skills practice is \"Oh, we have not enough period for this & that subject!\" 🤷

                    4) shared their resources across the nation
                    Hahaha...for this happens...something or someone must start the ball rolling šŸ˜‰

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                      Chenonceau
                      last edited by

                      Champion:
                      Chenonceau:

                      In reality, a large proportion of parents (many here in this forum) are against tuition, and wouldn't spend on it if schools...


                      (1) had better textbooks
                      (2) marked students' work more conscientiously
                      (3) gave enough skills practice
                      (4) shared their resources across the nation

                      (1) had better textbooks
                      This is a BIG concern! :skeptical: I wrote to DD1's subject teacher (SCIENCE) and then to the HOD and this is her reply to me,\" I understand your concern regarding MPAL Science textbooks. These textbooks are approved books by MOE, basically the textbooks cover the essential concepts pupils are expected to know for each theme and topic. The intention of having less written text in the textbooks is to allow pupils to learn Science in an inquiry way, thus in class, teachers do focus a lot on hands-on activities such as experiments conducted using the workbook.\" 🤷 🤷

                      (2) marked students' work more conscientiously
                      I have my reservation regarding this - on one hand I have DD1's one subject T who marked their work consistently and even wrote remarks on the mistakes to hight light key words but on the other hand, there is this subject T who got the class to mark each other's work during supplementary lessons :slapshead:

                      (3) gave enough skills practice
                      regarding practices, I only seen past year school exam papers being dished out to the kids 7~10 days before the exam. While probably this happens only to my DD1's school but somehow the reason given for not enough skills practice is \"Oh, we have not enough period for this & that subject!\" 🤷

                      4) shared their resources across the nation
                      Hahaha...for this happens...something or someone must start the ball rolling šŸ˜‰

                      :goodpost:

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                        Chenonceau
                        last edited by

                        Strparent:
                        This is becoming even more a WARPED society here, with freaking crezy parents like these, throwing this kind of money on 'enrichments'. There are far worthier causes they can contribute to in society.

                        As long as these brand schools and banding persist and becoming more emphasized, we will see more and more siao ppl joining in the kiasu bandwagon.
                        we already have to bear high healthcare on our own, are we now trending towards footing high education cost as well ? sounds like passing the bucket down the chain, in a systematic manner. But if you have gullibles, ...........who to blame ? :siao:
                        If it gets really bad, I will look for alternatives. Migration is one... another country where the syllabus is less difficult and achievements not so world class but allows my kid a fighting chance to survive by relying on himself. Learning self-reliance is far more important than mastering quantum physics at an early age.

                        Another option is homeschooling or international schools.

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