Parents hire tutors to do kids' school and tuition assignmen

[concern2]

I finally get to read the entire article, and I like the last part especially.


For one, it reminds us never to say ‘never’. Perhaps our time just hasn’t come yet. The same applies for parents who drill their kids with excessive enrichment/tuition. Never say ‘never’ that your child may find it unbearable one day and decide to turn the opposite direction.

[corneyAmber]

concern2:

I finally get to read the entire article, and I like the last part especially.


For one, it reminds us never to say 'never'. Perhaps our time just hasn't come yet. The same applies for parents who drill their kids with excessive enrichment/tuition. Never say 'never' that your child may find it unbearable one day and decide to turn the opposite direction.

Yes it CAN certainly happen to our kids that kind of workload knowing that many of our teachers work in a SILO and think that every child only studies the subject that they teach only. There is no integration between the teachers in the curriculum, everyone sets their own amount of homework, ended up the children get a mountain of homework. The right thing to do is for parents to get together and feedback to the teachers how UNREALISTIC some of the amount of homework and deadlines are, not to hire tutors to complete the work. It simply defeats the purpose of homework if the teachers are marking professionals' work. Would they prefer to listen to feedback or spend time marking scripts that are not even done by the kids. OR a worser scenario of a degenerating nation whereby the scripts are outsourced for marking as well....so NOBODY is really doing any real work but MONEY is working only for the wayang show to show that alot of WORK has been done? Again food for thought.

[corneyAmber]

concern2:

ksi:

Child B had no qualms about copied work and where was this learnt?

Case 2:
Again, what made Child C think that copying lock stock barrel was ok?

As adults, if we do not condone this as part of character building, would the children have the audacity to insist on copying all the time and copying without processing(Japanese, Koreans, Chinese copy but they do reverse engineering with enhancements) but lock, stock, barrel? Food for thought.

Yes, I am starting to hear more about 'copying' in class. DS was telling me a classmate (A) was spotted referring to his text book to find answers for his worksheet, and was told by another classmate (B) that he should not do it. At first, A insisted, not thinking there was anything wrong. After a few times of being told that it was wrong to do so by peers, he started sulking. Classmate C offered to help. But all C did was to let A copy his answers. There was no objection from classmate B that it was wrong.

I don't know where the kids got the idea that copying from friend was more all right than referring to the textbook for help. Perhaps it is due to getting the students to copy model answers from the very start? Or are there situations that are happening that we don't know about?

I believe the lesson of \"Copy\" needs to be taught well to the children or they become confused that copying is fine. It is true that some study methods advocate copying, for example, model compos but this does not mean that they copy it for an assignment and hand up as their own, that is plagiarism. And if this copy goes beyond homework, it will end up as Cheating in exam, the next step. :scared:

[Chenonceau]

DS sat next to a prefect last year who blackmailed him thus: "Allow me to copy your Science worksheets. For every X number of questions, you get X number of points. The next time you forget to bring YOUR books or homework, you can redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you."


All my son did was forget his books. What this girl did was…

[Chenonceau]

ksi:

concern2:

I finally get to read the entire article, and I like the last part especially.


For one, it reminds us never to say 'never'. Perhaps our time just hasn't come yet. The same applies for parents who drill their kids with excessive enrichment/tuition. Never say 'never' that your child may find it unbearable one day and decide to turn the opposite direction.

Yes it CAN certainly happen to our kids that kind of workload knowing that many of our teachers work in a SILO and think that every child only studies the subject that they teach only. There is no integration between the teachers in the curriculum, everyone sets their own amount of homework, ended up the children get a mountain of homework. The right thing to do is for parents to get together and feedback to the teachers how UNREALISTIC some of the amount of homework and deadlines are, not to hire tutors to complete the work. It simply defeats the purpose of homework if the teachers are marking professionals' work. Would they prefer to listen to feedback or spend time marking scripts that are not even done by the kids. OR a worser scenario of a degenerating nation whereby the scripts are outsourced for marking as well....so NOBODY is really doing any real work but MONEY is working only for the wayang show to show that alot of WORK has been done? Again food for thought.

My DD didn't have tuition in secondary school. But she landed in hospital because she had time to sleep only 3 hours a night at one point. I complained and the Principal blamed it on Facebook. But there really was a lot of homework EVEN for a girl with NO tuition at all.

What is life like for those with 8 to 9 tuition? Academic slavery? Sweat shop of good grades?

[Augmum]

ksi:

http://www.edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/news/news/983630/Parents_hire_tutors_to_do_kids_school_and_tuition_assignments.html

i am really appalled to read such news.....
hiring tutors to do sch or tuition homework , never know it exists :yikes:

i have not heard such things from my gal, at least not amongst her class or schmates that we know of......

it is so....so.... common for these IP pupils to go to bed at only midnite,
yes, they dont have sufficent hrs of sleep, and it's not healthy.....
but is a matter of adjustments and they would know how to \"steal some hrs of sleep\" to makeup for it.

paying $200 per hr to such tutors to do the sch homework ??
my gal would def tell me, \" No Way!!! mummy, please save up such money\" :evil:

[Augmum]

Chenonceau:

[My DD didn't have tuition in secondary school. But she landed in hospital because she had time to sleep only 3 hours a night at one point. I complained and the Principal blamed it on Facebook. But there really was a lot of homework EVEN for a girl with NO tuition at all.

Yes, there is simply no extra hrs for tuition.....
Even w/o FB or twitter, the hrs they have at home is only that few hrs a day/nite.
the main problem is that they are loaded TOO MUCH work......
almost everyday, there is a deadline for something.....

[concern2]

Chenonceau:

DS sat next to a prefect last year who blackmailed him thus: \"Allow me to copy your Science worksheets. For every X number of questions, you get X number of points. The next time you forget to bring YOUR books or homework, you can redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you.\"


All my son did was forget his books. What this girl did was...

P-PREFECT! :yikes: How did she get to be a prefect? Prefect supposed to be student leaders - no? Is that how our future leaders going to be?

Wow. redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you. Little undesirable behaviors like that if not corrected and gets viewed as 'smartness' , our future will be doomed - unless, she's merely joking .

[Chenonceau]

concern2:

Chenonceau:

DS sat next to a prefect last year who blackmailed him thus: \"Allow me to copy your Science worksheets. For every X number of questions, you get X number of points. The next time you forget to bring YOUR books or homework, you can redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you.\"


All my son did was forget his books. What this girl did was...

P-PREFECT! :yikes: How did she get to be a prefect? Prefect supposed to be student leaders - no? Is that how our future leaders going to be?

Wow. redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you. Little undesirable behaviors like that if not corrected and gets viewed as 'smartness' , our future will be doomed - unless, she's merely joking .

Not joking. My son very blur one. Forget this. Forget that. She takes pleasure in telling on him. So he let her copy lor... lucky he is good in Science. Got bargaining chip. DS says there are 3 kinds of girls

(1) the friendly and quiet ones
(2) the friendly and noisy ones
(3) the mean ones
(4) the ones that are like boys

He likes the 4th type best. I hope that changes. Anyway, this prefect is the #3 type. Not joking. Got my son scolded MANY times. I roughly calculated what it would cost me to invite her over and give her food poisoning... :evil: :evil:

[corneyAmber]

Chenonceau:

My DD didn't have tuition in secondary school. But she landed in hospital because she had time to sleep only 3 hours a night at one point. I complained and the Principal blamed it on Facebook. But there really was a lot of homework EVEN for a girl with NO tuition at all.

What is life like for those with 8 to 9 tuition? Academic slavery? Sweat shop of good grades?

Gosh! Hospitalized....how much worse can it get before it receives any attention? I hope MOE is aware of such overload of hw and can do something about it. I do not think the children are wimps nor parents over protective, workload just need to be realistic with only 24 hrs a day, period.