MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

[vicki]

LOLMum:

yes, i know and agree totally with what you said.


my main concern is how easily it is for people to become christians and get the letter from church to qualify for phase 2b. this is the grey area i am thinking of. we cant tell how many are using this as a stepping stone (phase 2b) or are really sincere.

i read the thread on church/clan membership and there are many people asking how to become church and clan members. we definitely welcome them to join the church/clan but for clan at least there is strict rules on the no. and how the letter of recommendation (for phase 2b) is given out while the church has none.

i think this is abuse of religion.

:offtopic:

Is it really that easy to become a christian? Don't u have RCIA or somethg along that line to prepare the person? Sorry, a little :offtopic:

[limlim]

I suggest…


tweak Phase 1 to include below restriction
-> stay within 2km and is a citizen.

tweak Phase 2A to include below restriction
-> stay within 2km and is a citizen.

remaining places split 50-50 (or other %) for 2B and 2C.

Maybe those with sibling or < 2km or is alumni etc… put in 2B and ballot if necessary… maybe sibling has priority over distance has priority over alumni has priority over clan/church etc…

For 2C, maybe alumni has priority over PV over un-related… ballot if necessary.

reserve 5~10% of vacancies for "free for all"… P2D…

Recognize the best interest of the child, recognize the contribution of alumni… and set the priorities accordingly…

[dorisp]

dorisp:

Some earlier discussions shared how some schools were founded by church and clan members and without them, the school might not be what it is now.


I am impresed with the many contributions made by the alumni but the founders could be the group that had put in money and effort to make it all possible in the first place.

Now church and clan falls under 2B, behind 2A.

Any views? :scratchhead:

Am I stepping on ground zero? :scared:

[puff]

dorisp:

Some earlier discussions shared how some schools were founded by church and clan members and without them, the school might not be what it is now.


I am impresed with the many contributions made by the alumni but the founders could be the group that had put in money and effort to make it all possible in the first place.

Now church and clan falls under 2B, behind 2A.

Any views? :scratchhead:

My view is:
Alumni is directly link to the school ( like your own children)
Under 2b u must be first link clan / church n church/ clan is link to sch ( is like distance relative)
Under 2b PV . U r not related but choose to help out ( is like adopted child)
Under 2c . <1km ( just like next door neighbour)

About alumni who stay more than 2 km fr sch ( is like your kids who married oversea although cannot visit you often but still deserve your love like the other sibling)

Dun flame me :siam: :siam: :siam:

[LOLMum]

vicki:

LOLMum:

yes, i know and agree totally with what you said.


my main concern is how easily it is for people to become christians and get the letter from church to qualify for phase 2b. this is the grey area i am thinking of. we cant tell how many are using this as a stepping stone (phase 2b) or are really sincere.

i read the thread on church/clan membership and there are many people asking how to become church and clan members. we definitely welcome them to join the church/clan but for clan at least there is strict rules on the no. and how the letter of recommendation (for phase 2b) is given out while the church has none.

i think this is abuse of religion.

:offtopic:

Is it really that easy to become a christian? Don't u have RCIA or somethg along that line to prepare the person? Sorry, a little :offtopic:

i vaguely remember attending a membership course and was baptised aftger completing the course. cant remember how long the course was. some of those in my group were of other religion with young kids ( 大家心照不宣), new to church.

as hquek said, this is between them and God, how sincere they are, is something i cant judge.

while it is good to have new brothers and sisters, there should still be a cap to reduce the no. of \"fake\" people from getting the letter. and after getting the letter, dont disappear lah.


:offtopic: too oftern already, better scoot back to alumni.

[dorisp]

puff:

dorisp:

Some earlier discussions shared how some schools were founded by church and clan members and without them, the school might not be what it is now.


I am impresed with the many contributions made by the alumni but the founders could be the group that had put in money and effort to make it all possible in the first place.

Now church and clan falls under 2B, behind 2A.

Any views? :scratchhead:

My view is:
Alumni is directly link to the school ( like your own children)
Under 2b u must be first link clan / church n church/ clan is link to sch ( is like distance relative)
Under 2b PV . U r not related but choose to help out ( is like adopted child)
Under 2c . <1km ( just like next door neighbour)

About alumni who stay more than 2 km fr sch ( is like your kids who married oversea although cannot visit you often but still deserve your love like the other sibling)

Dun flame me :siam: :siam: :siam:

That was an interesting way to put it!

[vicki]

dorisp:

Nebbermind:

[quote=\"dorisp\"]
Now church and clan falls under 2B, behind 2A.

Any views? :scratchhead:

Fair!

Fair because you think alumni is more important than founders?

[/quote]Haha! I am of another view. I feel that after phase 1, they shd just divide equal places between 2a 2b n 2c. N 2a shd just ballot for the seats (just like 2b folks) if there are more applicants than vacancies.

[limlim]

puff:

dorisp:

Some earlier discussions shared how some schools were founded by church and clan members and without them, the school might not be what it is now.


I am impresed with the many contributions made by the alumni but the founders could be the group that had put in money and effort to make it all possible in the first place.

Now church and clan falls under 2B, behind 2A.

Any views? :scratchhead:

My view is:
Alumni is directly link to the school ( like your own children)
Under 2b u must be first link clan / church n church/ clan is link to sch ( is like distance relative)
Under 2b PV . U r not related but choose to help out ( is like adopted child)
Under 2c . <1km ( just like next door neighbour)

About alumni who stay more than 2 km fr sch ( is like your kids who married oversea although cannot visit you often but still deserve your love like the other sibling)

Dun flame me :siam: :siam: :siam:

Very nice analogy!!

But hor.. ask you hor.. You pay for your kid's education only OR the whole village pay for most of it?

If the rest of the village pays most of it..

then why should they let you have priority? :evil:

we shd not forget that Govt schools are funded by all the tax payers.. not only alumni.. even thou they have contributed in 1 way or the other.

[Lyddon]

puff:

dorisp:

Some earlier discussions shared how some schools were founded by church and clan members and without them, the school might not be what it is now.


I am impresed with the many contributions made by the alumni but the founders could be the group that had put in money and effort to make it all possible in the first place.

Now church and clan falls under 2B, behind 2A.

Any views? :scratchhead:

My view is:
Alumni is directly link to the school ( like your own children)
Under 2b u must be first link clan / church n church/ clan is link to sch ( is like distance relative)
Under 2b PV . U r not related but choose to help out ( is like adopted child)
Under 2c . <1km ( just like next door neighbour)

About alumni who stay more than 2 km fr sch ( is like your kids who married oversea although cannot visit you often but still deserve your love like the other sibling)

Dun flame me :siam: :siam: :siam:

Brillantly illustrated.
:goodpost: :goodpost:

[castanst]

limlim:

puff:

[quote=\"dorisp\"]Some earlier discussions shared how some schools were founded by church and clan members and without them, the school might not be what it is now.


I am impresed with the many contributions made by the alumni but the founders could be the group that had put in money and effort to make it all possible in the first place.

Now church and clan falls under 2B, behind 2A.

Any views? :scratchhead:

My view is:
Alumni is directly link to the school ( like your own children)
Under 2b u must be first link clan / church n church/ clan is link to sch ( is like distance relative)
Under 2b PV . U r not related but choose to help out ( is like adopted child)
Under 2c . <1km ( just like next door neighbour)

About alumni who stay more than 2 km fr sch ( is like your kids who married oversea although cannot visit you often but still deserve your love like the other sibling)

Dun flame me :siam: :siam: :siam:

Very nice analogy!!

But hor.. ask you hor.. You pay for your kid's education only OR the whole village pay for most of it?

If the rest of the village pays most of it..

then why should they let you have priority? :evil:

we shd not forget that Govt schools are funded by all the tax payers.. not only alumni.. even thou they have contributed in 1 way or the other.[/quote]what made the popular schools popular??? the children, distant relatives, adopted child or the neighbours???