All Schools are GOOD Schools

[KSP]

verykiasu2010:

wonderm:

VK2010, I thought you just started a new thread,ore interest \"Are all the PARENTS same good?\" :siam:

All Parents are GOOD Parents :rotflmao: :evil: :evil:

How about All Parents are KIASU Parents or All Parents are equally KIASU? More interesting....

[verykiasu2010]

KSP:

How about All Parents are KIASU Parents or All Parents are equally KIASU? More interesting....

emmm, some parents are kiasi

[laughingcat]

Some parents also kia lai kia ke.

[KSP]

laughingcat:

Some parents also kia lai kia ke.

walk here, walk there... too free or too busy to bring their children for enrichements?

better than kong lai kong ke.... :rotflmao:

[KSP]

verykiasu2010:

KSP:

How about All Parents are KIASU Parents or All Parents are equally KIASU? More interesting....

emmm, some parents are kiasi

kiasu, kiasi and kia lau shi... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[wonderm]

KSP:

How about All Parents are KIASU Parents or All Parents are equally KIASU? More interesting....

Good idea. Then we can discuss how unfair it is that not all kiasu parents are reading this forum and how we can ask the govt to level the playing field.

Oh no, would there be suggestion to close down such forum then? Or there would be enrichment/tuition class for kiasu parents.

Indeed interesting! :evil:

[Chenonceau]

verykiasu2010:

Chenonceau:

We are all together in a very hot room. Minister Heng sits there coolly looking at us and says \"It's not hot. It's all your perspiration.\"

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: tak boleh tahan...

Seriously though... if there is substance, form will come. If there is real change (substance) in the way schools and students are managed, the words (form) of parents will depict the new reality of - All Schools are Good. If there is form but no substance, the form will crumble. If there is no substantive change (substance) in the way schools and students are managed, the words (form) of even a Minister will crumble under scrutiny.

And when his words crumble, the Minister's sincerity is called into question. At least to my eyes.

[laughingcat]

Chenonceau:

verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]

We are all together in a very hot room. Minister Heng sits there coolly looking at us and says \"It's not hot. It's all your perspiration.\"

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: tak boleh tahan...

Seriously though... if there is substance, form will come. If there is real change (substance) in the way schools and students are managed, the words (form) of parents will depict the new reality of - All Schools are Good. If there is form but no substance, the form will crumble. If there is no substantive change (substance) in the way schools and students are managed, the words (form) of even a Minister will crumble under scrutiny.

And when his words crumble, the Minister's sincerity is called into question. At least to my eyes.[/quote]Then my advice.......action through votes. :evil: :siam:

[mum_sugoku]

atutor2001:

mum_sugoku:

Hi. Just wish to share my experience here: My DS was in P6 last year. I noticed that for maths word problems, he tended to give a 1-line solution with no explanation, for eg,

(Question from an assessment book): Mr Phua can employ 4 workers to paint his house in 15 hours. If he decides to employ another 2 workers for the same job, how much time can he save?

While the book's worked solution showed 6 working steps to reach the answer of 5 hours, what DS did was:

time=> 15 -((15x4) /6) = 5
He saves 5 hours.

I told him to write down the workings \"properly\", but he said he had been doing that (giving 1-line working) all along and his maths teacher had never marked him wrong. Since I'm unfamilar with pri-level maths (and the marking scheme), plus he had been getting good grades in maths, I just let him carry on with his preferred method lor .. Anyway, he did manage to score A* for maths in PSLE.

(PS. DS has never had tuition for maths and I was incapable of coaching him in maths, so whatever he knows, he had learned it entirely from his school teachers. Kudos to them!)

Thank you for sharing your son's PSLE experience. It is a good reassurance to parents who believes in those silly instructions from some teachers. Some parents don't believe that there is no mark deduction for working, as long as final answer is correct. What the teachers have been telling the kids is that if the marker doesn't understand your working methods (i.e. non model), then there will be zero working mark when your answer is wrong. End of the day, if we hope to earn \"charity marks\" i.e. the answer is wrong, it is important for our presentation to be clear i.e. defining what we are doing for each step.

I also notice that your son's Pri teacher has not imposed any restriction on this working method which is good.

However, your son will face difficulty in sec school if did not show the steps. He will lose marks for incomplete presentation, which many are facing now. Hope his sec teacher is very strict enforcing the requirements for working steps from sec 1 and he should be fine by sec 4. Sorry, maybe he is in IP. Anway, they still need to follow proper presentation for their school exams.

Thanks for the advice . Ya I'm aware of the risk of giving 1-line solution and had actually compelled DS to \"break\" the solution up initially. However, the move had not only slowed him down, somehow he tended to make more careless mistakes (and get the final answer wrong) than before. So I've no choice but just let him did it his way.. Fortunately, his sec school maths teacher has insisted on them showing their step=by-step workings clearly and so he has started doing so .

[mum_sugoku]

verykiasu2010:

yes, not all schools are equally good, not all principals are equally good, not all teachers are equally good and passionate

some parents sneer at popular schools as being 'elite' or 'exclusive', some will say all kinds of things in the name of calling for justice for the less fortunate and under-achieved.....some are simply presumptious in making comments

between the good and the bad in the school system is a whole spectrum stretching from one end of rainbow to the other end

no system is perfect, as long as it is left to human to run and operate, until such time when every policy and direction is run by robots.

Mr Heng must recognise that some schools are more popular for some valid reasons, for which he should not brush aside and say all schools are good and parents must change perception of neighbourhood schools. The fact is, some neighbourhood schools are just better than other neighbourhood

my two kids eat sleep breathe the same through out their life thus far, equal scolding and equal love, same schools, same system, different results, not bad, but different. We are part of the normal distribution.

Ya. Even within the same company/organisation with staff of similar academic qualifications/experiences, it would still be unlikely for the staff to have similar performance/output, not to mention different schools.