Parents, not enrichment centres, are key to result

[laughingcat]

KSP gathering i don’t mind…for sharing and chit chat.


I used to partake in gatherings like orchid forum, right-brain training, literacy and concept mathematics…they were so much fun! Mummies came in with all the stuffs to do show-and-tell. Such is more enriching. More suitable for lower primary but not too sure on upper primary leh.

[Zanonbu]

Chenonceau:

If school is the parents' job, then what are schools for? Parents who both work full time turn to enrichment centres because

(1) they are so busy making a living, they have no time...
(2) schools test far beyond what is taught

It doesn't help that working hours get longer and longer.

both valid points, but some things are still learned in home rather than in school.

[Chenonceau]

Zanonbu:

Chenonceau:

If school is the parents' job, then what are schools for? Parents who both work full time turn to enrichment centres because

(1) they are so busy making a living, they have no time...
(2) schools test far beyond what is taught

It doesn't help that working hours get longer and longer.

both valid points, but some things are still learned in home rather than in school.

Did I say there was nothing to learn at home? :?

[Imami]

Champion:

janet_lee88:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]

Tuition?

I strongly think so.

Erm...MOE, are you reading this ? Is it possible for kids to be able to cope on their own ?

I asked my DD1,\" In your class of 40 students, who has NO tuition / enrichment?\" Her reply,\" Mummy, where got people don't have tuition de? All have lah and the top girl has 6 altogether!\" :yikes:[/quote] :rotflmao:

[janet88]

laughingcat:

But then hor.....i am very impatient and i expects alot too. With my such character, really cannot coach for life. It really drains me and it added stress on myself. I totally can understand how P6 parents feel, even though my kids are not even P6 yet. Teaching for life is :siam:

My kids dare not mess around me when it's time for work. I have to set strict standards bcos work is work.

I cannot see myself coaching my daughter (p2) when she goes to upper primary. As it is, i am feeling the strain just coaching her for English.
I coached my son in science from P3. When he reached P5, I gave up. Though he didn't fail, I just couldn't get him to break out of the 60 mark range. Hubby is too busy to coach. Late last year, I got him tuition. He is in p6 this year. I dare not take the risk.

[24hr-mum]

sigh the problem wf my p4 gal is even with sci tuition and extra revn classes, she has dropped to 68 for ca. las yr sa was 76, dropped from 89 in 1st ca (started tuition in p3 term 1). i m wondering is it too much tuition, too much sch wk n stimes tuition work make her no time to self learn? i begin to lose faith in tuition…cos they cant catch her weakness eg carelessness…

[Chenonceau]

24hr-mum:

sigh the problem wf my p4 gal is even with sci tuition and extra revn classes, she has dropped to 68 for ca. las yr sa was 76, dropped from 89 in 1st ca (started tuition in p3 term 1). i m wondering is it too much tuition, too much sch wk n stimes tuition work make her no time to self learn? i begin to lose faith in tuition.....cos they cant catch her weakness eg carelessness...

Your case is similar to beanbear's. Her DS was still failing despite tuition. Like you, feedback from the school was too generic to be helpful. Beanbear went on the approach of quality tuition and then she rolled up her sleeves and
(1) analyzed her child's weaknesses
(2) devised ways to address each in sequence (not all together)
(3) worked with her child personally
(4) ensured that her child mastered the resources given by the tuition centre

Carelessness is a perennial issue. Just keep at it.

Teachers don't always give a detailed strengths and weaknesses profile either. They mark with circles and ticks and underlining. The child is expected to know. You need to generate your own weaknesses profile by looking at the circles and ticks with your child.

[jedamum]

Chenonceau:

Your case is similar to beanbear's. Her DS was still failing despite tuition. Like you, feedback from the school was too generic to be helpful. Beanbear went on the approach of quality tuition and then she rolled up her sleeves and
(1) analyzed her child's weaknesses
(2) devised ways to address each in sequence (not all together)
(3) worked with her child personally
(4) ensured that her child mastered the resources given by the tuition centre

Carelessness is a perennial issue. Just keep at it.

Teachers don't always give a detailed strengths and weaknesses profile either. They mark with circles and ticks and underlining. The child is expected to know. You need to generate your own weaknesses profile by looking at the circles and ticks with your child.

this is especially true for science Section B.
i find that i do a better job at tackling sect B weakness (via analysis and ways to get kid to remember what costs his 1 or half mark per question...i dont even need to have indepth science knowledge..i just need the answer sheet and compare with his answer to sieve out the differences) while science enrichment centre is usually good at filling in the gaps with general/extended knowledge of the science topic with i do not have. so even with enrichment tuition, i still need to sit down and go through his weakness.

[Nebbermind]

jedamum:

this is especially true for science Section B.

i find that i do a better job at tackling sect B weakness (via analysis and ways to get kid to remember what costs his 1 or half mark per question...i dont even need to have indepth science knowledge..i just need the answer sheet and compare with his answer to sieve out the differences) while science enrichment centre is usually good at filling in the gaps with general/extended knowledge of the science topic with i do not have. so even with enrichment tuition, i still need to sit down and go through his weakness.

So u should go to the science enrichment that teaches 'How to tackle exam questions', rather than one that provides more knowledge!!

This was what my boy faced during P6...he has the knowledge/facts....but not the skill to put down the relevant answers!!

P.S. - GREAT! I started the 100th page!

[Chenonceau]

jedamum:

this is especially true for science Section B.

i find that i do a better job at tackling sect B weakness (via analysis and ways to get kid to remember what costs his 1 or half mark per question...i dont even need to have indepth science knowledge..i just need the answer sheet and compare with his answer to sieve out the differences) while science enrichment centre is usually good at filling in the gaps with general/extended knowledge of the science topic with i do not have. so even with enrichment tuition, i still need to sit down and go through his weakness.

Yup... this is my view too. This is the kind of individualized feedback I give my child too. They need it to help them refine their exam answering skills.

The only diff is that in our home, the general/extended knowledge part is filled by written documentation that I have sourced and my son's willingness to search stuff on the internet... and to read widely on Science topics.

Basically, one needs that general/extended knowledge of the science topic somehow - whether via enrichment centres or via independent learning using high quality educational materials. One also needs the one-to-one guidance and help to analyze mistakes (and this one Mommy can do even if Mommy dunno Science).

I help analyze DS'
(1) Chinese gaps (but I can't read Chinese)
(2) Science gaps (but I am lousy at Science)
(3) Math gaps (but I am even worse in Math than Science)

Amy Chua (famous tiger Mother) helped her daughter do so well in piano that Sophia Chua-Rubenfeld performed at the Carnegie Mellon, even though her Mom had never ever received a day of piano class.

Keep your chin up. It's doable if Mommy can spare the time.