Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary

[janet88]

Son flunked CL. What should I expect for SA1 ? Another heart attack ?


It’s really hard to understand why PH is so relaxed…although I did mention the heavy workload last year. When I meant heavy workload, I was referring to stuff like art, social studies, project work. P5 Math is very tough, as we all know. All the more, teachers should be preparing the kids to handle the problem sums and how to handle the exam - Section A (no calculator) and have to finish questions within a short period of time - speed and accuracy.

[janet88]

FQW:

Jennifer:

U should be worried, no joke.

After thinking abt this outsourcing of work to parents, I am seriously considering not letting my boy continuing with the Tues/Thurs supplementary lessons, except for CL lessons.

Will my ds be tasked with P4 level qns in the year-end exams? Maybe. Will it hit us like a train? Definitely. Is there anything we can do about this? Not much.

Hi FQW,
Pei Hwa is not a school which allows parents to be laid back. It has never been so since my son's time in P1...ie 2007. Revision has to be consistent. Once principal issues CA/SA memo, there is no time to start revising from scratch.

[Trapwithin]

FQW:

Will my ds be tasked with P4 level qns in the year-end exams? Maybe. Will it hit us like a train? Definitely. Is there anything we can do about this? Not much.

The P3 CA EL paper is shocking but should be a one time thing.
The school get bombarded by parents a lot.
I still think it is the setter and vetter being inexperience in setting papers and EL HOD do not have a good process to oversee the paper setting process. Having about 50-60% of the cohort passing EL (my prediction) in this year P3 EL CA1 is bad enough for them ... it has backfired on them and they will review their process.

So ... I do not think you will get a P4 question in their first major exam in P2 SA2. The school will have a hard time to justify MOE's policy of removing the P1/2 exams.

[S6169]

Jennifer:

Last year, the MA teacher did not use the textbook, but made the pupils kept a MA journal exercise book that recorded impt notes.

This year, the MA teacher did not use the textbook nor practise keeping a journal.

For my younger boy who is not an auditory learner, u can imagine how much info flied over his head at sch:faint: He did not understand the order of 4 operations, he did not understand fraction divided by a whole number. And I found out these while doing damage repair by going through term 1 MA with him ytd.

After thinking abt this outsourcing of work to parents, I am seriously considering not letting my boy continuing with the Tues/Thurs supplementary lessons, except for CL lessons.

I found out that my son did not understand the order of 4 operations, and I thought it is beacuse he didn't pay attention in class.
But when I found out that he did not understand fraction multiplication, cannot apply this concept in the problem sums and the teacher didn't correct him as long as he got the correct answer. I realised that something is wrong for his math this year. When I try to look for the textbook and found out that they did not use the textbook.
Same as you, I am doing damage repair by going through term 1 MA. I also bought one more homework book and pick up some q, let my son redo the q, make sure he use the correct concept.
唉, 求人不如求己.

[janet88]

Trapwithin:

FQW:

Will my ds be tasked with P4 level qns in the year-end exams? Maybe. Will it hit us like a train? Definitely. Is there anything we can do about this? Not much.

The P3 CA EL paper is shocking but should be a one time thing.
The school get bombarbed by parents a lot.
I still think it is the setter and vetter being inexperience in setting papers and EL HOD do not have a good process to oversee the paper setting process. Having about 50-60% of the cohort failing EL (my prediction) in this year P3 EL CA1 is bad enough for them ... it has backfired on them and they will review their process.

So ... I do not think you will get a P4 question in their first major exam in P2 SA2. The school will have a hard time to justify MOE's policy of removing the P1/2 exams.

The school doesn't need to set a P4 question for P2 SA2...the setter just has to open the math assessment book, find the challenging ones, modify a little and the kids will suffer.

My son scored 63 for his Eng CA1. Heard half the class failed section B. I dread to think of SA1 now. He is lucky to be considered the average student. Next heart attack coming soon.

[iRabbit]

Trapwithin:

Having about 50-60% of the cohort passing EL (my prediction) in this year P3 EL CA1 is bad enough for them ... it has backfired on them and they will review their process.

So ... I do not think you will get a P4 question in their first major exam in P2 SA2. The school will have a hard time to justify MOE's policy of removing the P1/2 exams.

But I recalled couple of years ago 2/3 of cohort failed Maths or something like that. It seems like history repeating itself leh. So I won't raise my hopes too much. But even if ds is to fail this year-end exam, it won't be all doom and gloom. I'll try to use this failure as a opportunity to shape him. Yes, it's easier to be understanding once I know what all the 前辈 before me have gone thru.

Heard of Nick Leeson? Rarely have I seen a high-flyer fall as badly as he did, but today he circumvent all that and got his life back. I'll gladly exchange all the intellect in the world for ds to have a grit like his. But I don't mean I want ds to bankrupt a 100 yr old bank hor.

S6169:

I found out that my son did not understand the order of 4 operations, and I thought it is beacuse he didn't pay attention in class.
But when I found out that he did not understand fraction multiplication, cannot apply this concept in the problem sums and the teacher didn't correct him as long as he got the correct answer. I realised that something is wrong for his math this year. When I try to look for the textbook and found out that they did not use the textbook.
Same as you, I am doing damage repair by going through term 1 MA. I also bought one more homework book and pick up some q, let my son redo the q, make sure he use the correct concept.
唉, 求人不如求己.

Your ds was one of the award winners last year right? If even he has problems, then I better find the nearest wall to bash my head. :stupid:

[Jennifer]

S6169:

Jennifer:

Last year, the MA teacher did not use the textbook, but made the pupils kept a MA journal exercise book that recorded impt notes.

This year, the MA teacher did not use the textbook nor practise keeping a journal.

For my younger boy who is not an auditory learner, u can imagine how much info flied over his head at sch:faint: He did not understand the order of 4 operations, he did not understand fraction divided by a whole number. And I found out these while doing damage repair by going through term 1 MA with him ytd.

After thinking abt this outsourcing of work to parents, I am seriously considering not letting my boy continuing with the Tues/Thurs supplementary lessons, except for CL lessons.

I found out that my son did not understand the order of 4 operations, and I thought it is beacuse he didn't pay attention in class.
But when I found out that he did not understand fraction multiplication, cannot apply this concept in the problem sums and the teacher didn't correct him as long as he got the correct answer. I realised that something is wrong for his math this year. When I try to look for the textbook and found out that they did not use the textbook.
Same as you, I am doing damage repair by going through term 1 MA. I also bought one more homework book and pick up some q, let my son redo the q, make sure he use the correct concept.
唉, 求人不如求己.

:yikes: your boy did not understand the order of 4 operations like mine?

Something is really not right in the class.

[Trapwithin]

FQW:

But I recalled couple of years ago 2/3 of cohort failed Maths or something like that.

That's P5 CA1 . . which is quite common in all school.

[Jennifer]

FQW:

S6169:

I found out that my son did not understand the order of 4 operations, and I thought it is beacuse he didn't pay attention in class.
But when I found out that he did not understand fraction multiplication, cannot apply this concept in the problem sums and the teacher didn't correct him as long as he got the correct answer. I realised that something is wrong for his math this year. When I try to look for the textbook and found out that they did not use the textbook.
Same as you, I am doing damage repair by going through term 1 MA. I also bought one more homework book and pick up some q, let my son redo the q, make sure he use the correct concept.
唉, 求人不如求己.

Your ds was one of the award winners last year right? If even he has problems, then I better find the nearest wall to bash my head. :stupid:

I believe it is the way the lesson plan was conducted that \"confused\" the little minds. Going to look for crash courses in the Jun hols soon.

[janet88]

Trapwithin:

FQW:

But I recalled couple of years ago 2/3 of cohort failed Maths or something like that.

That's P5 CA1 . . which is quite common in all school.

P5 Math is so amazingly different that one would wonder what the 4 years p1-4) of school has taught and why is it irrelevant at P5. It's a total diff ballgame. It's like what in the world is this ? :nailbite: questions like 'how much did he have at first?' :faint: marks fall by multiples in P5. My son scored 84 at P4 SA2, dropped to 38% last year CA1.