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    • M Offline
      MandyMummy
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      toddles:
      janet_lee88:

      [quote=\"limlim\"]Why I don't say ban private tuition?


      bcoz, if the student is weak, I believe, these student would reasonably be assumed that they cannot follow class lesson as well.. and they NEED individual attention. These student wouldn't benefit from attending tuition centers classes bcoz they do not get individual attention at all..

      School teachers now do not have patience with weaker students. So these slower ones need 1-to-1 tuition in order to keep up with the rest of the class. At primary level, kids need that individual attention bcos they are not that mature yet. My son is one such example. He is weak, so he needs individual attention to keep up. It was only with this kind of attention that he can pass his Math (p6) CA1 this year. His classmate had math tuition since P3, which was why he didn't fail Math in P5. My hubby and I coached him all these years other than CL.

      I think it's also a sign of the increase in workload and demands on teachers over the years. say 20 years ago, teachers were meant to TEACH. period. they didn't have to do excelfest and all sorts of songs and dance.

      these days, they are required to do so many other things that they have no time to do the basic. in the past (and I suppose still today for the low income) most kids have no access to tuition. teacher will pick out those who are not coping, and offer after school remedial to help them catch up with the rest of the class. these days, teachers bring work home, and are working late into the night after dinner just to stay afloat.[/quote]Yup, this is because now all teachers are assumed by MOE to know how to \"teach well\" (which we all know is not true) and therefore they are being appraised on the extras. These extras take up time necessary to help the weak students.

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        Mawar
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        Chenonceau:
        VKS2010... maybe you can help. Or someone can please help because it has been 12 months and I am so frustrated that I actually cried over the CA1 marking.


        I sent an email (polite) to DS' English Teacher pointing out that \"A number of reasons contribute to...\" instead of \"contributeS to\". She responded that she will feedback to the HOD to change the marking scheme.

        Then I found more mistakes in the compo she marked, so I emailed again pointing out that it should not be \"The whole family WERE eating...\" plus others ... and since DS did not make all these language mistakes perhaps his Language component of compo should get better marks. This time I copied the email to an HOD. It isn't the marks that are important but I needed an excuse to email her without sounding like I was correcting her English. I have not received any response to my email since Monday.

        It has been 1 year. It has been one year of emails that go either unanswered or are answered after 3 weeks. I have never once succeeded in getting her on the phone... and if I leave a message for her to call, 2 weeks can pass before she calls. I need to leave another 2 messages. So far, I have talked to her twice on the phone... both times, I had to leave multiple messages and emails to get a call back.

        We don't have a bad relationship. When I do get her on the phone, we have a good chat. I've never been rude to her and until this week's Monday, I have never given her negative feedback (both times I spoke to her last year were to ask questions)... but there were SO MANY mistakes in her CA1 marking this time that I finally took the step to email her, and I also dropped a word with the HOD.

        Should I call? Should I email the Principal? Should I keep quiet and teach my son myself (I can more than cope), and complain next year bringing all her marking along with me as evidence? I feel very helpless and frustrated.

        What would other Mommies/Daddies do bearing in mind that my DS still has to stay in her class till the end of the year? I need some advice because I am on the verge of marching to school and requesting to see the Principal... and that will be so unpleasant for the Teacher and I.
        My approach is simple. If I have no control over who the teachers are, and if their actions do not cause my kids any physical or emotional damage, I will let it slide. I am a hands off mother, but should I come to know of such incompetent teachers, I will monitor and coach my kids.

        There were 2 separate occasions where my kid lost out some marks in SA2. Every mark, down to decimals, made a difference but after highlighting to the teachers, nothing was done. One excuse was the marks were already submitted etc etc . . . I sat down with my kids, told them that I accept their answers, and if they would like me to pursue the matter I would. In the end, we decided to let it go.

        In life we have to pick and choose our battles. We decided against fighting this one.

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          smartmummy
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          Chenonceau:
          VKS2010... maybe you can help. Or someone can please help because it has been 12 months and I am so frustrated that I actually cried over the CA1 marking.


          I sent an email (polite) to DS' English Teacher pointing out that \"A number of reasons contribute to...\" instead of \"contributeS to\". She responded that she will feedback to the HOD to change the marking scheme.

          Then I found more mistakes in the compo she marked, so I emailed again pointing out that it should not be \"The whole family WERE eating...\" plus others ... and since DS did not make all these language mistakes perhaps his Language component of compo should get better marks. This time I copied the email to an HOD. It isn't the marks that are important but I needed an excuse to email her without sounding like I was correcting her English. I have not received any response to my email since Monday.

          It has been 1 year. It has been one year of emails that go either unanswered or are answered after 3 weeks. I have never once succeeded in getting her on the phone... and if I leave a message for her to call, 2 weeks can pass before she calls. I need to leave another 2 messages. So far, I have talked to her twice on the phone... both times, I had to leave multiple messages and emails to get a call back.

          We don't have a bad relationship. When I do get her on the phone, we have a good chat. I've never been rude to her and until this week's Monday, I have never given her negative feedback (both times I spoke to her last year were to ask questions)... but there were SO MANY mistakes in her CA1 marking this time that I finally took the step to email her, and I also dropped a word with the HOD.

          Should I call? Should I email the Principal? Should I keep quiet and teach my son myself (I can more than cope), and complain next year bringing all her marking along with me as evidence? I feel very helpless and frustrated.

          What would other Mommies/Daddies do bearing in mind that my DS still has to stay in her class till the end of the year? I need some advice because I am on the verge of marching to school and requesting to see the Principal... and that will be so unpleasant for the Teacher and I.
          we can feedback to the principal.no body angry with us.If u email to principal,I hope she cannot mention ur name and checking her (T) work.If T knows also no problem.
          I went to PTM,there was no MT teachers,I just scold the Ts to other Ts who took down my number.The next day the MT t called me.In singapore polite doesn't work.cos previous year also no MT ts for PTM.then the MT T gave her phone number,but whenever I called her she never answered and never call back.

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            Nebbermind
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            Chenonceau:
            Nebbermind:

            [quote=\"Chenonceau\"]

            :spank: You are NOT being helpful.

            Suggest u give her the house SPECIAL!.....

            http://i43.tinypic.com/2mwgldf.gif\">

            :stompfeet: :stompfeet: I feel like giving YOU the house special - http://i43.tinypic.com/2mwgldf.gif\">.[/quote]http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss135/kmitch43/facebook_like_button_small.png\">

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              Chenonceau
              last edited by

              :snuggles:

              Mawar:
              Chenonceau:

              VKS2010... maybe you can help. Or someone can please help because it has been 12 months and I am so frustrated that I actually cried over the CA1 marking.


              I sent an email (polite) to DS' English Teacher pointing out that \"A number of reasons contribute to...\" instead of \"contributeS to\". She responded that she will feedback to the HOD to change the marking scheme.

              Then I found more mistakes in the compo she marked, so I emailed again pointing out that it should not be \"The whole family WERE eating...\" plus others ... and since DS did not make all these language mistakes perhaps his Language component of compo should get better marks. This time I copied the email to an HOD. It isn't the marks that are important but I needed an excuse to email her without sounding like I was correcting her English. I have not received any response to my email since Monday.

              It has been 1 year. It has been one year of emails that go either unanswered or are answered after 3 weeks. I have never once succeeded in getting her on the phone... and if I leave a message for her to call, 2 weeks can pass before she calls. I need to leave another 2 messages. So far, I have talked to her twice on the phone... both times, I had to leave multiple messages and emails to get a call back.

              We don't have a bad relationship. When I do get her on the phone, we have a good chat. I've never been rude to her and until this week's Monday, I have never given her negative feedback (both times I spoke to her last year were to ask questions)... but there were SO MANY mistakes in her CA1 marking this time that I finally took the step to email her, and I also dropped a word with the HOD.

              Should I call? Should I email the Principal? Should I keep quiet and teach my son myself (I can more than cope), and complain next year bringing all her marking along with me as evidence? I feel very helpless and frustrated.

              What would other Mommies/Daddies do bearing in mind that my DS still has to stay in her class till the end of the year? I need some advice because I am on the verge of marching to school and requesting to see the Principal... and that will be so unpleasant for the Teacher and I.

              My approach is simple. If I have no control over who the teachers are, and if their actions do not cause my kids any physical or emotional damage, I will let it slide. I am a hands off mother, but should I come to know of such incompetent teachers, I will monitor and coach my kids.

              There were 2 separate occasions where my kid lost out some marks in SA2. Every mark, down to decimals, made a difference but after highlighting to the teachers, nothing was done. One excuse was the marks were already submitted etc etc . . . I sat down with my kids, told them that I accept their answers, and if they would like me to pursue the matter I would. In the end, we decided to let it go.

              In life we have to pick and choose our battles. We decided against fighting this one.

              Thanks Mawar.. :hugs: There is a part of me that tells me I can't win this one...

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                Chenonceau
                last edited by

                Nebbermind:
                Chenonceau:

                [quote=\"Nebbermind\"]
                Suggest u give her the house SPECIAL!.....

                http://i43.tinypic.com/2mwgldf.gif\">

                :stompfeet: :stompfeet: I feel like giving YOU the house special - http://i43.tinypic.com/2mwgldf.gif\">.

                http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss135/kmitch43/facebook_like_button_small.png\">[/quote] :rotflmao: I cannot help but laugh through my tears. So ok lah... you're not half bad.

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                  Chenonceau
                  last edited by

                  smartmummy:
                  Chenonceau:

                  VKS2010... maybe you can help. Or someone can please help because it has been 12 months and I am so frustrated that I actually cried over the CA1 marking.


                  I sent an email (polite) to DS' English Teacher pointing out that \"A number of reasons contribute to...\" instead of \"contributeS to\". She responded that she will feedback to the HOD to change the marking scheme.

                  Then I found more mistakes in the compo she marked, so I emailed again pointing out that it should not be \"The whole family WERE eating...\" plus others ... and since DS did not make all these language mistakes perhaps his Language component of compo should get better marks. This time I copied the email to an HOD. It isn't the marks that are important but I needed an excuse to email her without sounding like I was correcting her English. I have not received any response to my email since Monday.

                  It has been 1 year. It has been one year of emails that go either unanswered or are answered after 3 weeks. I have never once succeeded in getting her on the phone... and if I leave a message for her to call, 2 weeks can pass before she calls. I need to leave another 2 messages. So far, I have talked to her twice on the phone... both times, I had to leave multiple messages and emails to get a call back.

                  We don't have a bad relationship. When I do get her on the phone, we have a good chat. I've never been rude to her and until this week's Monday, I have never given her negative feedback (both times I spoke to her last year were to ask questions)... but there were SO MANY mistakes in her CA1 marking this time that I finally took the step to email her, and I also dropped a word with the HOD.

                  Should I call? Should I email the Principal? Should I keep quiet and teach my son myself (I can more than cope), and complain next year bringing all her marking along with me as evidence? I feel very helpless and frustrated.

                  What would other Mommies/Daddies do bearing in mind that my DS still has to stay in her class till the end of the year? I need some advice because I am on the verge of marching to school and requesting to see the Principal... and that will be so unpleasant for the Teacher and I.

                  we can feedback to the principal.no body angry with us.If u email to principal,I hope she cannot mention ur name and checking her (T) work.If T knows also no problem.
                  I went to PTM,there was no MT teachers,I just scold the Ts to other Ts who took down my number.The next day the MT t called me.In singapore polite doesn't work.cos previous year also no MT ts for PTM.then the MT T gave her phone number,but whenever I called her she never answered and never call back.

                  Thanks smartmummy... it's sad that polite doesn't work. I've gone on a charm offensive with this T. Doesn't work. I find it hard to be rude though... that's why I am thinking twice.

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                    MummySTay
                    last edited by

                    DD had very good teachers throughout her 6 years of education in her 2 primary schools. No complaints, but heaps of praises. :love:


                    DS, on the other hand, was not so lucky. :gloomy: Every alternate year (in his primary school), he would get a lousy teacher, starting from primary 1. 

                    DS's P1 form teacher taught him Math. Very often, there was no homework, but just before CA 1 and SA1, the teacher would suddenly pile the students with work...up to 20 pages of work in a day. One week before his SA1, the teacher still had 2 more chapters to teach. Naturally, I was very frustrated. Being a systematic person, I typed out everything the teacher should have done, but failed to carry out. It was 2 pages long!!! Also printed copies of my evidence and arranged a meeting with the P...
                    When DS returned to school in term 3, after the hols, he had a change of teacher. 

                    At P3, DS had a lousy EL teacher who, like Chenonceau's, marked his compositions wrongly. He corrected DS's \"dialled\" (BE) to \"dialed\"(AE) and wrote that there is no such word as \"relived\".  :scared:
                    For picture compositions, DS wrote in the first-person account, but the teacher failed him, insisting that it must be written in the 3rd person's account (I checked - there was nothing in the instruction about writing in the 3rd person's account).
                    I printed copies of DS's work whereby the teacher had marked wrongly and met up with the EL HOD (Not very nice to always march into P's office! 😉 ). Anyway, the HOD was a very understanding lady and had taught DS in P2. She agreed that I was right and had a talk with both the teacher and DS. 

                    The talk with DS was necessary as she had to clarify his doubts since both the mother and his teacher taught differently. For that, I was very appreciative.  (Amazingly, his EL teacher was posted to MOE so DS again had a change of teacher in term 3.)

                    Just sharing some of our bad experiences. 😄

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                      MandyMummy
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                      Hi, Chen, it seems that this is a competency issue. Your ds teacher may not be ready to teach P5&6 yet. Once a child learnt something incorrect, it will be difficult pedagogically for the child to "unlearnt" it. So it would be better to alert the HOD (which you did) and might want to set up an appointment with him/her to discuss the issues. Hopefully with the feedback given, they can have someone to vet the mark scheme and even better change the teacher next year.

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                        beanbear
                        last edited by

                        Hi Chen, some questions i cd offer for ur thinking: what’s your desired outcome from the action u take? Teacher to become aware of her incompetency, then do something abt improving her competency? School become aware of problem? Do u believe teacher can change in the short term? What can be changed & what cannot? What’s really a system issue or individual issue here? Of its lack of clear marking rubrics & counter-checking of marking, then it’s system issue.

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