Maid to get weekly rest days
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JGMum:
:goodpost: this makes a lot of sense
I do agree that personal views of employers are subjective. The database I imagine would primarily comprise of factual information like how many times the maid transfered during her time here, how long she worked for each employer, how long she worked in Singapore, was a police case ever filed for theft or abuse. And it would not be publicly published, just like personal credit ratings are not published publicly, but made available to those who need it. And it will be \"individual\", the report is only for the maid concerned, and not the entire database of thousands of maids. Just like banks do not ask for credit ratings of individuals who have no business or dealings with them. I just think that such information would be useful for prospective employers. -
JGMum:
:goodpost:
I do agree that personal views of employers are subjective. The database I imagine would primarily comprise of factual information like how many times the maid transfered during her time here, how long she worked for each employer, how long she worked in Singapore, was a police case ever filed for theft or abuse. And it would not be publicly published, just like personal credit ratings are not published publicly, but made available to those who need it. And it will be \"individual\", the report is only for the maid concerned, and not the entire database of thousands of maids. Just like banks do not ask for credit ratings of individuals who have no business or dealings with them. I just think that such information would be useful for prospective employers. -
JGMum:
Not sure if private companies screens against Police records for their potential employees. I know that the public sector does it for public servants.
I do agree that personal views of employers are subjective. The database I imagine would primarily comprise of factual information like how many times the maid transfered during her time here, how long she worked for each employer, how long she worked in Singapore, was a police case ever filed for theft or abuse. And it would not be publicly published, just like personal credit ratings are not published publicly, but made available to those who need it. And it will be \"individual\", the report is only for the maid concerned, and not the entire database of thousands of maids. Just like banks do not ask for credit ratings of individuals who have no business or dealings with them. I just think that such information would be useful for prospective employers.
CID issues Certificate of Clearance (COC) to certify that a person has no criminal conviction in Singapore.
http://www.spf.gov.sg/epc/cert_issued.htm -
cool_hi:
The mark of an advanced culture is the ability to see beyond one's own interests and treat everyone, even the lowly, with dignity and respect. If we as a society cannot even agree to give our maids a day off a week, no amount of demonstration on the streets will make us an advanced society.Actually, after voicing out here & there..feel disheartened..
coz no point la..waste time only..govt just close 2 eyes..& both ears..
Actually, the nations I admire are Korea & Japan, or even Hong Kong & Taiwan..
Why?These are very advanced countries, especially Korea & Japan, yet their people are not manipulated & dare to show displease with ACTIONS!!
anything they not happy with, & government don't listen,
these people dare to go out to the streets & go on strike!!!
This is REAL DEMOCRACY!!
Think it will never happen here, within our generation..
& many generations after
In fact, I can't think of anything more disheartening and puerile than a bunch of Singaporeans campaigning to lock their maids up in the homes 24/7....
Standing up and voicing an opinion loud loud does not make a democracy nor does it make one advanced. -
3Boys:
agree with the above :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Standing up and voicing an opinion loud loud does not make a democracy nor does it make one advanced. -
3Boys:
Agree with most of what you said. Except that part about locking up maids in their homes 24/7. That may have been true of many employers decades ago. But nowadays the maids have lots of freedom even on working days. When I look around my HDB estate- I see maids chatting downstairs, sometimes with other maids, sometimes with guys. Some maids manage to even get pregnant without having day off. My own maid (now on 3rd passport) used to chat outside with her best friend almost every day (that friend's gone home. The other maids are not so pally with her, so she just talks with them occassionally.) My friends also tell me that their maids go downstairs to chat very often, even for hours at a stretch.The mark of an advanced culture is the ability to see beyond one's own interests and treat everyone, even the lowly, with dignity and respect. If we as a society cannot even agree to give our maids a day off a week, no amount of demonstration on the streets will make us an advanced society.
In fact, I can't think of anything more disheartening and puerile than a bunch of Singaporeans campaigning to lock their maids up in the homes 24/7....
Standing up and voicing an opinion loud loud does not make a democracy nor does it make one advanced.
FYI, not all maids look forward to having a weekly day off. eg My maid was aghast when she read in the papers about it. \"Going to be like HK! Don't want can or not?\" And she's not the only one that feels that way. They know that day off means spend $, and that everything's so expensive here. Many are happy with monthly day off. In my opinion the ones that want weekly day off either (i) have someone who pays for their expenses that day (ii) moonlighting -
I had 2 maids for the last 4 years and neither of them has any day off. Instead, they go with us in Church which they prefer (I asked them) since then already have friends then rather than going to Lucky Plaza and mingle with other maids. We had this agreement when I took them as direct hire... they're more than happy as ever.
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Hmmm…okay and what is your point? What are you driving at?
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\"Mr Gary Chin, managing director of Nation Employment, cited an example of a maid who initially agrees to work for compensation in lieu of some of her rest days.
\"After some time, both parties may have a change of ideas. The maid might want to withdraw from the original agreement (and) have the day off. So, disputes will happen,\" he said.
\"(But) who should the employers or the maids turn to for mediation? In the new regulations, it's stated that we're not supposed to interfere.\"
Despite their call for guidelines, the agencies agree that flexibility is also needed when employers and maids negotiate in order to maintain a harmonious relationship.
They also said that from next year, they will be stricter in their selection criteria for foreign domestic workers, to ensure they bring in those who are serious about working in Singapore.
They hope this will help to allay employers' concerns about the social implications of the new law.\"
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Unbelievable!
So all the time agencies have NOT been bringing in maids who are SERIOUS about working in Singapore. They will only do it from next year?
So now we know why we have problems! Is anyone going to slap their hands? -
honestly, the trick of the game for the maid agencies is very simple – churn the volume, whichever way you look at it, the maid agencies gain by getting more placement fees, more maids loan … etc.
ask yourself, does the training cost in Indo really so expensive to cost 8 months’ pay to train a maid in Indo and bring them to SG ? what kind of maid training do they have – yet coming into SG employers still have to teach them English, teach them cooking, teach them how to wash car, how to take care of babies…endless list … before they can really help out in the family
it is all gimmick and volume churning … employers, why so blind ?
better start thinking on using part time cleaning companies and catering for food … be maidless so you won’t go mad on maids
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