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    Illegal to keep some school examination paper

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      tutormum
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      :faint: I know RGS made their papers free for download years ago as the Principal thought that she might as well do it rather than have people profiting from it. (I'm 100% this was the case). I also heard from some parents that some schools did not even allow parents to look at their papers in case parents could spot mistakes made by the schools thus avoid having to verify. :faint:

      Personally, I don't really work much with top school papers. Of course there's advantages in doing exam papers e.g. keeping up with their standard to ensure that a kid wouldn't fall behind. My first priority is to ensure that the kid understands the topics well and I prefer assessment books as they are very systematic in their approach ie covering topic by topic with practice papers. If a kid is well taught and very good in a subject, he should have no problem answering any questions.

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        Chenonceau
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        How difficult is it for MOE to put up an internet site and REQUIRE all schools to upload all their past papers for students to download. There are plenty of free file sharing sites to use for this. MOE doesn’t even need a dedicated server etc…


        There is just a gross lack of central co-ordination. Schools just do what they want including profiteer from IP that was paid for by taxpayers.

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          limlim
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          Chenonceau:
          How difficult is it for MOE to put up an internet site and REQUIRE all schools to upload all their past papers for students to download. There are plenty of free file sharing sites to use for this. MOE doesn't even need a dedicated server etc...
          *Like*

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            Nebbermind
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            perhaps shd just write to SHHK and ask them the rationale of stopping others from making available their past yr exams ppr. IP is really a lame excuse!!

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              Chenonceau
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              Nebbermind:
              perhaps shd just write to SHHK and ask them the rationale of stopping others from making available their past yr exams ppr. IP is really a lame excuse!!

              :love: Oh yay! A Daddy just got grumpy.

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                janet88
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                tutormum:

                Personally, I don't really work much with top school papers. Of course there's advantages in doing exam papers e.g. keeping up with their standard to ensure that a kid wouldn't fall behind. My first priority is to ensure that the kid understands the topics well and I prefer assessment books as they are very systematic in their approach ie covering topic by topic with practice papers. If a kid is well taught and very good in a subject, he should have no problem answering any questions.
                I do not use all the schools exam papers...just selective ones as a form of exposure. RGPS have answer key sometimes and that is what we parents want to know how marks are broken down.
                My son will do the assessment books first before past year papers. It's dangerous to use past year papers as a main form of revision.

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                  Trapwithin
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                  Nebbermind:
                  perhaps shd just write to SHHK and ask them the rationale of stopping others from making available their past yr exams ppr. IP is really a lame excuse!!

                  SHHK situation is slightly different from the rest of the school.
                  They have licensed the exam papers to a publisher to publish them and mostly with a royalty program in place. As such, they might be under pressure from this publisher to take action considering that the publisher has the exclusive rights to the Intellectual Property (IP). So in this case, there is monetary benefits involved.

                  For other schools, it is an open secret and probably hard for MOE/schools to manage them. Certain schools also took questions from textbook and assessment book to set their papers. Some only modify the variable but in essence the questions are still the same.

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                    Chenonceau
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                    Trapwithin:
                    Nebbermind:

                    perhaps shd just write to SHHK and ask them the rationale of stopping others from making available their past yr exams ppr. IP is really a lame excuse!!


                    SHHK situation is slightly different from the rest of the school.
                    They have licensed the exam papers to a publisher to publish them and mostly with a royalty program in place. As such, they might be under pressure from this publisher to take action considering that the publisher has the exclusive rights to the Intellectual Property (IP). So in this case, there is monetary benefits involved.

                    For other schools, it is an open secret and probably hard for MOE/schools to manage them. Certain schools also took questions from textbook and assessment book to set their papers. Some only modify the variable but in essence the questions are still the same.

                    Why did they sign away royalties to a publisher when the people who wrote the IP were paid with taxpayer funds to write the exams? Did the publisher generate the IP? What do taxpayers now get? We need to pay more for materials that taxpayer funds already paid for?

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                      buds
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                      janet_lee88:
                      I do not use all the schools exam papers...just selective ones as a form of exposure. RGPS have answer key sometimes and that is what we parents want to know how marks are broken down. My son will do the assessment books first before past year papers. It's dangerous to use past year papers as a main form of revision.

                      :hi5:

                      Us too. :celebrate:

                      The only extra i do is revise concepts.
                      They write/have their own notes (when
                      revising with me) apart from those in guide
                      books or boosters.

                      Their school also has a great practice of keeping a log book for every subject. All study tips and reflections are inside. Parents are updated daily on what's covered and how lessons are being covered in class. :please:

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                        Trapwithin
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                        Chenonceau:
                        Trapwithin:

                        [quote=\"Nebbermind\"]perhaps shd just write to SHHK and ask them the rationale of stopping others from making available their past yr exams ppr. IP is really a lame excuse!!


                        SHHK situation is slightly different from the rest of the school.
                        They have licensed the exam papers to a publisher to publish them and mostly with a royalty program in place. As such, they might be under pressure from this publisher to take action considering that the publisher has the exclusive rights to the Intellectual Property (IP). So in this case, there is monetary benefits involved.

                        For other schools, it is an open secret and probably hard for MOE/schools to manage them. Certain schools also took questions from textbook and assessment book to set their papers. Some only modify the variable but in essence the questions are still the same.

                        Why did they sign away royalties to a publisher when the people who wrote the IP were paid with taxpayer funds to write the exams? Did the publisher generate the IP? What do taxpayers now get? We need to pay more for materials that taxpayer funds already paid for?[/quote]I meant the publisher's pay SHHK royalties. The money is in turn used to fund the 5% expeditures required for government-aided schools. So the money generated from royalties will still be used back on the schools.

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