Illegal to keep some school examination paper
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Nebbermind:
perhaps shd just write to SHHK and ask them the rationale of stopping others from making available their past yr exams ppr. IP is really a lame excuse!!
:love: Oh yay! A Daddy just got grumpy. -
tutormum:
I do not use all the schools exam papers...just selective ones as a form of exposure. RGPS have answer key sometimes and that is what we parents want to know how marks are broken down.
Personally, I don't really work much with top school papers. Of course there's advantages in doing exam papers e.g. keeping up with their standard to ensure that a kid wouldn't fall behind. My first priority is to ensure that the kid understands the topics well and I prefer assessment books as they are very systematic in their approach ie covering topic by topic with practice papers. If a kid is well taught and very good in a subject, he should have no problem answering any questions.
My son will do the assessment books first before past year papers. It's dangerous to use past year papers as a main form of revision. -
Nebbermind:
perhaps shd just write to SHHK and ask them the rationale of stopping others from making available their past yr exams ppr. IP is really a lame excuse!!
SHHK situation is slightly different from the rest of the school.
They have licensed the exam papers to a publisher to publish them and mostly with a royalty program in place. As such, they might be under pressure from this publisher to take action considering that the publisher has the exclusive rights to the Intellectual Property (IP). So in this case, there is monetary benefits involved.
For other schools, it is an open secret and probably hard for MOE/schools to manage them. Certain schools also took questions from textbook and assessment book to set their papers. Some only modify the variable but in essence the questions are still the same. -
Trapwithin:
Why did they sign away royalties to a publisher when the people who wrote the IP were paid with taxpayer funds to write the exams? Did the publisher generate the IP? What do taxpayers now get? We need to pay more for materials that taxpayer funds already paid for?Nebbermind:
perhaps shd just write to SHHK and ask them the rationale of stopping others from making available their past yr exams ppr. IP is really a lame excuse!!
SHHK situation is slightly different from the rest of the school.
They have licensed the exam papers to a publisher to publish them and mostly with a royalty program in place. As such, they might be under pressure from this publisher to take action considering that the publisher has the exclusive rights to the Intellectual Property (IP). So in this case, there is monetary benefits involved.
For other schools, it is an open secret and probably hard for MOE/schools to manage them. Certain schools also took questions from textbook and assessment book to set their papers. Some only modify the variable but in essence the questions are still the same. -
janet_lee88:
I do not use all the schools exam papers...just selective ones as a form of exposure. RGPS have answer key sometimes and that is what we parents want to know how marks are broken down. My son will do the assessment books first before past year papers. It's dangerous to use past year papers as a main form of revision.
:hi5:
Us too. :celebrate:
The only extra i do is revise concepts.
They write/have their own notes (when
revising with me) apart from those in guide
books or boosters.
Their school also has a great practice of keeping a log book for every subject. All study tips and reflections are inside. Parents are updated daily on what's covered and how lessons are being covered in class. :please: -
Chenonceau:
Why did they sign away royalties to a publisher when the people who wrote the IP were paid with taxpayer funds to write the exams? Did the publisher generate the IP? What do taxpayers now get? We need to pay more for materials that taxpayer funds already paid for?[/quote]I meant the publisher's pay SHHK royalties. The money is in turn used to fund the 5% expeditures required for government-aided schools. So the money generated from royalties will still be used back on the schools.Trapwithin:
[quote=\"Nebbermind\"]perhaps shd just write to SHHK and ask them the rationale of stopping others from making available their past yr exams ppr. IP is really a lame excuse!!
SHHK situation is slightly different from the rest of the school.
They have licensed the exam papers to a publisher to publish them and mostly with a royalty program in place. As such, they might be under pressure from this publisher to take action considering that the publisher has the exclusive rights to the Intellectual Property (IP). So in this case, there is monetary benefits involved.
For other schools, it is an open secret and probably hard for MOE/schools to manage them. Certain schools also took questions from textbook and assessment book to set their papers. Some only modify the variable but in essence the questions are still the same. -
buds:
wow buds..the school looks like a dream school to me..janet_lee88:
I do not use all the schools exam papers...just selective ones as a form of exposure. RGPS have answer key sometimes and that is what we parents want to know how marks are broken down. My son will do the assessment books first before past year papers. It's dangerous to use past year papers as a main form of revision.
:hi5:
Us too. :celebrate:
The only extra i do is revise concepts.
They write/have their own notes (when
revising with me) apart from those in guide
books or boosters.
Their school also has a great practice of keeping a log book for every subject. All study tips and reflections are inside. Parents are updated daily on what's covered and how lessons are being covered in class. :please:
special blogs with daily updates..great feat indeed..which school is that?
wish all schools took effor to do the same.. I know this is not feasible for feasible for all..even a weekly update will be greatly appreciate by students and parents alike.. -
Trapwithin:
Typically the publisher gets 90%. Authors get 10%. It is really very little money for SHHK unless they had very preferential terms that are atypical.
I meant the publisher's pay SHHK royalties. The money is in turn used to fund the 5% expeditures required for government-aided schools. So the money generated from royalties will still be used back on the schools.
Hmmmm... 5% of expenditures. Does that mean that govt aided schools are 95% funded by the govt from taxpayers' money? How does it work? -
If the company employs your team to do research… and each team member puts in effort… do you own the product or the company? if someone pays money for the product and you spilt the money within your team for a nice makan for your team members… is it right?
MOE funds the school… MOE pay the teachers… is it not right to say that MOE owns the work? The exam papers? Unless the teachers don’t develop those papers during working hours but during their own private time to make those questions?
IMO, all schools should surrender all the papers to MOE…
and MOE make it available for download. -
If all schools submit their exam papers to MOE, vendors may be out of business…but then how many of us will have time to print out ? Ink, paper and time no joke. We, the parents will be the ones who benefit the most if MOE uploads all of them.
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