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    is it possible to teach p4 math ourselves?

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    • jedamumJ
      jedamum
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      david59:

      Like I share with Jedamum, Andrew Er's \"Mathematics Companion\" is easier than \"Mathematics New Syllabus\". You may want to start on the former first to gauge her level of capability. Place more emphasis on problem sums as I think your kid seems to be quite ok with basis concepts. Because from Primary 5 onwards, problem sums constitute 60 out of 100 marks and there are 18 qns compare to 4 in the lower primary.
      dear david59,
      how will you rank onsponge with andrew er's math companian and new syllabus.
      i have that at home already, and we are doing it after the boy cleared intensive math level 3.

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      • jedamumJ
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        Champion:
        david59:



        Like I share with Jedamum, Andrew Er's \"Mathematics Companion\" is easier than \"Mathematics New Syllabus\". You may want to start on the former first to gauge her level of capability. Place more emphasis on problem sums as I think your kid seems to be quite ok with basis concepts. Because from Primary 5 onwards, problem sums constitute 60 out of 100 marks and there are 18 qns compare to 4 in the lower primary.

        God bless you and your child.

        http://i47.tinypic.com/121zv9w.jpg\">

        :thankyou: champ!

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        • jedamumJ
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          24hr-mum:
          for my child the main problem is carelessness:

          eg she wrote 1533+234 as the number sentence but when she did the static addition working, she wrote 1533-234.

          or her working's answer is 80004 but in the final answer blank she wrote 8004
          24hr-mum,
          my boy has this problem too. and handwriting too (read his own handwriting, zero and nine or six wrongly :stupid: ).
          there is barely time to check so he could not pick up such mistakes :slapshead:
          but thankfully for now, his foundation (ie he knows how to do problem sums that are taught in class or at home) is still ok as he can manages band1 with these mistakes (but never full score despite easy paper! :rant: ).
          he can even get graphs reading questions wrongly!!

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            david59
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            jedamum:
            david59:


            Like I share with Jedamum, Andrew Er's \"Mathematics Companion\" is easier than \"Mathematics New Syllabus\". You may want to start on the former first to gauge her level of capability. Place more emphasis on problem sums as I think your kid seems to be quite ok with basis concepts. Because from Primary 5 onwards, problem sums constitute 60 out of 100 marks and there are 18 qns compare to 4 in the lower primary.

            dear david59,
            how will you rank onsponge with andrew er's math companian and new syllabus.
            i have that at home already, and we are doing it after the boy cleared intensive math level 3.

            Onsponge is good for those who aim for 85 to A star marks. That means the kid must be already very good with problem sums. Becos Onsponge problem sum and are really very tough qns. Thus not suitable for those who are not in the top calibre.
            For your dd, if she can manage Intensive Maths level 3 very well, she can try the easier qns in Onsponge to start with. I would say that New Syllabus Maths is equally as tough as Onsponge. The only weakness in all assessment books is that each qn comes with one model solution in their answer sheets. In reality there are usually a few methods to approach a qn. So, it is always good to learn a few methods. You may notice that Andrew Er n Onsponge use different methods to solve similar qns sometimes.

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            • phtthpP
              phtthp
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              any primary school in SG using UTM (Unit Transfer Method) to teach (P4 to P6) kids, or all schools use only Model method to teach kids?


              http://www.mathsheuristics.com/P4_book_preview/index.html#/10/

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              • NebbermindN
                Nebbermind
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                phtthp:
                any primary school in SG using UTM (Unit Transfer Method) to teach (P4 to P6) kids, or all schools use only Model method to teach kids?


                http://www.mathsheuristics.com/P4_book_preview/index.html#/10/
                But the difficulty level of p4 math may not require this method.

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                  david59
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                  Nebbermind:
                  phtthp:

                  any primary school in SG using UTM (Unit Transfer Method) to teach (P4 to P6) kids, or all schools use only Model method to teach kids?


                  http://www.mathsheuristics.com/P4_book_preview/index.html#/10/

                  But the difficulty level of p4 math may not require this method.

                  This method is a very good method for those who are good in visualizing the changing from one set of units to another set of units after certain transaction has taken place. But most students do not have this capability. For most, using models help them to see the qn in pictorial form.
                  I help the latter group by explaining the units in model form which they find easier to understand.

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                  • NebbermindN
                    Nebbermind
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                    david59:
                    This method is a very good method for those who are good in visualizing the changing from one set of units to another set of units after certain transaction has taken place. But most students do not have this capability. For most, using models help them to see the qn in pictorial form.

                    I help the latter group by explaining the units in model form which they find easier to understand.
                    Actually for those who are quite good in math, they use all sorts of method without even knowing what they are called...or even without being taught!!

                    I relooked at my boy's P4 worksheets...they are all in a mess....no proper models drawn...just lines...a 'slash' here and there...and the answe pops out!!
                    I still remember when I tried revising PSLE with him last time...asked him to draw proper models so I can understand his answers...I gave up...no point forcing him to change his techniques!

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                      JasmineTan
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                      I think P4 Maths is still quite manageable.

                      However, things can get a bit crazy in P5.
                      Sort of like triple jump.
                      The questions get so much harder.
                      The marks of children dipped drastically in P5.
                      Kind of discouraging!

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                      • corneyAmberC
                        corneyAmber
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                        Nebbermind:

                        Actually for those who are quite good in math, they use all sorts of method without even knowing what they are called...or even without being taught!!

                        I relooked at my boy's P4 worksheets...they are all in a mess....no proper models drawn...just lines...a 'slash' here and there...and the answe pops out!!
                        I still remember when I tried revising PSLE with him last time...asked him to draw proper models so I can understand his answers...I gave up...no point forcing him to change his techniques!
                        Bingo and :hi5: to that!

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