Singapore for Singaporeans?

[limlim]

lim72:

Please lah limlim, I'm talking about the words we use in SINGAPORE not US or other countries! What are you driving at?

Just to highlight that the local Chinese translation for \"Air conditioner\" is technically not correct.

[Oppsgal]

limlim:

lim72:

And from prc newsreaders '兰花' instead of '胡姬花', '空调' instead of '冷气'。We are being invaded, including the languag we have been using for years.

The national flower of Singapore is know as \"Vanda 'Miss Joaquim' (Chinese: 卓锦万黛兰; pinyin: zhuójǐn wàndàilán)\", NOT 卓锦万黛胡姬.

兰花 is the correct term for addressing orchid species.

The language we have been using for years may not be technically correct in the international context (胡姬花 is acceptable, but maybe not \"cold air machine\" or \"巴杀\").

It is okay to use it locally, but if speaking to international audience, others may mis-understood the meanings.

From another POV, it's not that local languages are invaded.. but rather maybe the original language was corrupted..

we should learn and embrace the correct representation, and not reject them, while allowing others to integrate into our culture and language.

So now chinese lesson in primary school use which version?

[pinky]

Oppsgal:

limlim:

[quote=\"lim72\"]And from prc newsreaders '兰花' instead of '胡姬花', '空调' instead of '冷气'。We are being invaded, including the languag we have been using for years.

The national flower of Singapore is know as \"Vanda 'Miss Joaquim' (Chinese: 卓锦万黛兰; pinyin: zhuójǐn wàndàilán)\", NOT 卓锦万黛胡姬.

兰花 is the correct term for addressing orchid species.

The language we have been using for years may not be technically correct in the international context (胡姬花 is acceptable, but maybe not \"cold air machine\" or \"巴杀\").

It is okay to use it locally, but if speaking to international audience, others may mis-understood the meanings.

From another POV, it's not that local languages are invaded.. but rather maybe the original language was corrupted..

we should learn and embrace the correct representation, and not reject them, while allowing others to integrate into our culture and language.

So now chinese lesson in primary school use which version?[/quote]depends on the teacher's nationality :evil:
my son's PRC tuition teacher always use the term: za men instead of wo men (we) so he always tease me by using the term and says he can speak 'mainland mandarin' already

[lim72]

It depends whether the teachers are local or prc.


So now even 巴刹 is incorrect? So should we embrace Da di for hail a taxi instead of 搭德士 and bo luo mi for 黄梨 also?

[pinky]

lim72:

It depends whether the teachers are local or prc.


So now even 巴刹 is incorrect? So should we embrace Da di for hail a taxi instead of 搭德士 and bo luo mi for 黄梨 also?

these terms are unique and 'localised' just like our Singlish so I see no need to change

[Oppsgal]

http://temasektimes.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/pinoy-ft-scolds-singaporeans-you-are-lazy/


Just saw this article, not sure is it true.

But really... :mad:

[verykiasu2010]

lim72:

It depends whether the teachers are local or prc.


So now even 巴刹 is incorrect? So should we embrace Da di for hail a taxi instead of 搭德士 and bo luo mi for 黄梨 also?

怎么你们天天打打杀杀........爸也杀,妈也杀.......

[verykiasu2010]

if we put effort to differentiate proper inklish from sinklish, we should also differentiate proper chinese language from localised dialectised-multi-lingual chinese


巴杀 is from malay word pasar, meaning market. we should use 菜市场

冷汽 is cold air, air conditioner should be 空调 because it regulates the air temperature

when we speak our local Chinese language in Taiwan or HK or PRC, people there won’t understand us totally

and when we don’t make effort to differentiate the right from the wrong, we think the right is the wrong and think our wrong is the right, and becomes arrogant

[limlim]

lim72:

It depends whether the teachers are local or prc.


So now even 巴刹 is incorrect? So should we embrace Da di for hail a taxi instead of 搭德士 and bo luo mi for 黄梨 also?

\"da di\" is their localised short form.. not \"official\" Chinese language I guess. Those terms we don't need to bother.. The \"official\" term is \"chu zu che\" (出租车).

Also, some Northern Mandarin is different from Southern Mandarin also.. Like \"za men\" is more localised form.. we can just stick to \"wo men\" (我们).

We should recognise what is the official or \"correct\" Chinese language, and differentiate from their localised terms (like our \"ba sha\"), and selectively pick the one that is applicable locally and internationally.

Not everything must accept.. just embrace the right one..

[lim72]

This is a problem with some singaporeans, when they travel a lot, they think that they have seen & heard a lot and when I’m talking about local issues, they will bring in the big word, Globalisation. They must have misread the big heading today, ‘When in Spore, act like a Sporean’. Last but not least,.there is no right or wrong in the words that we or others used, the only thing that I can’t say much is that they have 5000years of history but ours is only less than 100.


Try telling the local hawkers or even your parents that the Chinese or Taiwaneses could not understand our Mandarin, they will tell you that this is Singapo leh.

I rest my case here.