Primary school maths: A vicious circle (from TODAY May 8)

[cherryc]

Totally agree with you, tutormom. I don’t know in future how many of these tuitioned artificial intelligent people will be our country leader , politicians , bankers , lawyers or doctors. And the truly brainy ones missing out the good programs that will bring our country to greater heights.


Most of my friends came from poor to middle income families when we were young , we studied hard in school , the teachers taught well and we had fair exams and a fair chance in life to make it. It saddens me to think that somewhere now there are kids who are like me when I was young cant make it far now because of the current education system. I enjoyed my Hwa Chong days and none of us got in with a single tuition.

[BeContented]

Mychildren:

BeContented,


My apology, if I sounds offensive the other time. :salute:

I, sincerely,hope all of us come here to share our views, to help our society and education to improve to a better one.

:love: No offense taken

[fightingmom]

cherryc:

Totally agree with you, tutormom. I don't know in future how many of these tuitioned artificial intelligent people will be our country leader , politicians , bankers , lawyers or doctors. And the truly brainy ones missing out the good programs that will bring our country to greater heights.


Most of my friends came from poor to middle income families when we were young , we studied hard in school , the teachers taught well and we had fair exams and a fair chance in life to make it. It saddens me to think that somewhere now there are kids who are like me when I was young cant make it far now because of the current education system. I enjoyed my Hwa Chong days and none of us got in with a single tuition.

share the same sentiment with you, cherryc. My siblings and I graduated without any tuition at all. During our times, tuition was a luxury that my parents could not afford but now, it seems to be a necessity.

I still remember my DD's first day of school in P1, her FT then asked the whole class how many of them had tuitions already. My DD told me more than half of the 40 students put up their hands !

[Mychildren]

fightingmom:

cherryc:

Totally agree with you, tutormom. I don't know in future how many of these tuitioned artificial intelligent people will be our country leader , politicians , bankers , lawyers or doctors. And the truly brainy ones missing out the good programs that will bring our country to greater heights.


Most of my friends came from poor to middle income families when we were young , we studied hard in school , the teachers taught well and we had fair exams and a fair chance in life to make it. It saddens me to think that somewhere now there are kids who are like me when I was young cant make it far now because of the current education system. I enjoyed my Hwa Chong days and none of us got in with a single tuition.

share the same sentiment with you, cherryc. My siblings and I graduated without any tuition at all. During our times, tuition was a luxury that my parents could not afford but now, it seems to be a necessity.

I still remember my DD's first day of school in P1, her FT then asked the whole class how many of them had tuitions already. My DD told me more than half of the 40 students put up their hands !

My time, I the one who is giving tuition to primary kids when I myself still studying in secondary school. No choice la, need to earn extra to help.

cherryc,
Maybe the future brainy ones will migrate to somewhere better? Who knows?

[cherryc]

Next time we can ask the mps or ministers who had tuition before and can you imagine practically everyone raises their hands.


Anyway, not only we didn’t have tuition, we also spared our parents from many things like looking around for tuition centres/tutors, pay lots of money , change tuition centres /tutors if not suitable , ferry us and wait for us to finish tuition 4 times a week. In addition , our parents don’t have to frequently discuss with their friends how to solve Maths questions , what are the good guidebooks etc. They dont get worried so often or frequently scold us for not knowing how to do maths questions that are not properly taught in school . I always tell my mom how I envy her life !

[Chenonceau]

cherryc:

Next time we can ask the mps or ministers who had tuition before and can you imagine practically everyone raises their hands.


Anyway, not only we didn't have tuition, we also spared our parents from many things like looking around for tuition centres/tutors, pay lots of money , change tuition centres /tutors if not suitable , ferry us and wait for us to finish tuition 4 times a week. In addition , our parents don't have to frequently discuss with their friends how to solve Maths questions , what are the good guidebooks etc. They dont get worried so often or frequently scold us for not knowing how to do maths questions that are not properly taught in school . I always tell my mom how I envy her life !

http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=767804#p767804

[J and J]

:xedfingers: :xedfingers:

sunflower:

Mychildren:

At present, there is no way to tell whether a child underperforms because he is not taught (and has no access to the material)... or because he just can't handle the material. No one is asking for 100% comprehensive textbooks... but one certainly does not expect the textbooks to document only 20% of what one needs to know for PSLE. Seriously, to do well in school exams, one hardly needs to flip the textbooks at all. They are really BASIC, as you put it.


Many children who ARE capable are NOT fulfilling their potential because they are NOT taught the material (and their parents DON'T give them tuition)... It's almost like a beehive where some bee larvae are fed Royal Jelly because they are the designated Queen Bees. The quantity and quality of the educational material our children are fed with... do have a bearing on their PSLE results.
by Chenonceau

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GOOD POST & WELL SAID!!!
Totally AGREE with you!

I've been sourcing materials for my children now. No point depending on the school. :hugs: :spank:
Parents of p1 & 2 won't feel a sting now. They'll know it as children progress from p4 onwards. Wait for the school to do something, by the time my children already finished their PSLE lo....... Got to take action before it's too late. Sigh, my job lo...... :sick:

Err...I think not only parents of children in schools who don't seemed to provide the necessary materials who are giving extra stuff to their children, being kiasu, parents of branded schools are doing the same as well, boosting their children's performance with enrichment and tuition, despite the schools having done their part in teaching and giving extra resources (as believed by many parents).

:grphug: :imconstipated:

[oxyleo]

http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120523-347701.html


PM LHL reiterated yesterday at a CDAC celebration that the government will continue to enable social mobility, especially through education.

I sincerely hope they can figure something out sooner rather than later.

[Chenonceau]

J and J:

:xedfingers: :xedfingers:

sunflower:

Err...I think not only parents of children in schools who don't seemed to provide the necessary materials who are giving extra stuff to their children, being kiasu, parents of branded schools are doing the same as well, boosting their children's performance with enrichment and tuition, despite the schools having done their part in teaching and giving extra resources (as believed by many parents).

:grphug: :imconstipated:

And because branded schools' parents give enrichment, the PSLE standards and school tests must pander to the extra things rich kids learn at enrichment?

Just because rich parents do it, the system must follow their lead... and create a situation where the whole nation needs to go engage tutors to keep their kids from failing?

[Chenonceau]

oxyleo:

http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120523-347701.html


PM LHL reiterated yesterday at a CDAC celebration that the government will continue to enable social mobility, especially through education.

I sincerely hope they can figure something out sooner rather than later.

He can reiterate all he likes. If he cannot control his MOE, it's just an empty promise made for the sake of the By Election.