2009 GEP Screening And Selection
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I did teach my ds area and perimeter for the 2nd test though - cos sch had not covered that topic yet, as mentioned in MOE circular. It took me 2 sessions (1 hr each) - 1st session to teach basics of area and perimeter and do some questions, 2nd session to reinforce and expose him to more challenging ones.
Hubby said GEP test is a test. And we must always be prepared for tests. My argument is - it is a GEP selection test. No point preparing and coaching and getting child in and then realize child cannot cope. So I refuse to do anything extra. It was the same 2 yrs ago with dd. She is strong in her English but did not get selected in the 2nd round. Both my kids are just advance learners - but I always tell them they are not the Genius giftedness. -
cluelessmama:
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After tests, especially 2nd round, kid came back very happy coz the English test was an enjoyment. In kid's own words :\" There are a few long passages for my reading pleasure, so fun!\" Then, kid went on to ask : \" Since I don't need to prepare for GEP tests, can I do the same for SA2?\" - I almost fainted! :shock:
Mine said very easy but boring. Anyway, he read a lot but his English is not so good, at least if you go by marks (if go by debating and coming out with smart aleck comments, surely among top in Singapore :shock: ). Math is good, so I thought 50-50 at best. -
tony:
Haha. My mine, she's the \"safe n sound\" type - as long as there's one question to be pondered upon, the paper will be labelled as \"difficult\". Most of her friends said tests were easy except my kid.
:rotflmao:cluelessmama:
After tests, especially 2nd round, kid came back very happy coz the English test was an enjoyment. In kid's own words :\" There are a few long passages for my reading pleasure, so fun!\" Then, kid went on to ask : \" Since I don't need to prepare for GEP tests, can I do the same for SA2?\" - I almost fainted! :shock:
Mine said very easy but boring. Anyway, he read a lot but his English is not so good, at least if you go by marks (if go by debating and coming out with smart aleck comments, surely among top in Singapore :shock: ). Math is good, so I thought 50-50 at best.
As for English, kid loves to read (almost everything : books, mags, advertisement, etc) - as long as she sees chunks of words, she gets attracted to them :love: . -
cluelessmama:
hai..thats sound like my boy....haaa
Haha. My mine, she's the \"safe n sound\" type - as long as there's one question to be pondered upon, the paper will be labelled as \"difficult\". Most of her friends said tests were easy except my kid.
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TwaTau:
Do you have any comments about RVPS when your DS was in the school previously? The new P is formerly from St Hilda's so I believe he will be leading the school forward.
I think that is a good idea, about suggesting the school to implement the \"high ability\" class. The principal is new, so will be quite keen to build on this strength and enhance his credential. :salute:Puffer:
Yeah I too was a little surprised, but does that mean the school is worse off than another that produces 20 GEPers? I am hoping that the school will retain its good teachers and nurture this current batch of students all the way to P6. I've suggested to the school to implement something like 'high ability' classes next year.
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Here’s what I was told by my Rosyth friend…
at start of pri 3, they had their own internal screening test… then the kids were asked to go to earlier (… hmmm must be afternoon session for the p3)… for extra on maths and english… can’t remember how many days a week… definitely each session was for an hour or so.
One of her acquaintances asked her … "do you know where to get Joe Cameron books?" She thought it was storybooks… later she found out that Rosyth also did IQ paper with the kids. Apparently she went to several bookshops and specialised bookshops just looking for Joe cameron IQ books… don’t know whether it works but looking at the nbr … probably… also this friend sends child to in-house vendor for the math olympiad training by RECMEL … went in before p3… don’t know how she did it. Both boys are in GEP. Both children were also at Learning Lab for gifted stream EL / Math / Science… in p6 year they were pulled out after Term 1… else Learning Lab will list child’s name on the board after PSLE results. My friend was also told that Success Learning Centre, next to Rosyth, also have gifted stream English… and these two boys are still there. They have been there since 2005.
If you have friends in Rosyth, perhaps they can tell you more… -
cluelessmama:
My son - I didn't take what he said about the tests too seriously cos to him, everything also easy and boring. Then results come out, sometimes different story lah :x . He's super careless. But the last 1 year, he's become more competitive, try to check his own work (sometimes!), so I'm quite glad to see him push himself.
Haha. My mine, she's the \"safe n sound\" type - as long as there's one question to be pondered upon, the paper will be labelled as \"difficult\". Most of her friends said tests were easy except my kid.
Which is also why I'm so glad he got selected. At this age, still don't want to go to school at times cos he says school is boring, can learn more by reading at home yada yada. BTW, both my sons like that, so very \"vomit blood\" sometimes. If the programme can occupy him, or wowzers, make him eager to go to school, I tio beh pio (strike lottery) already! -
2centsworthy:
Woo..with this info I think more and more parents would want to send their kids to Rosyth so that they have a better chance to get into gep....How abt other gep schools like ACS, NYGS ...whereby the no. of students getting into gep are quite high..??? :roll:Here's what I was told by my Rosyth friend....
at start of pri 3, they had their own internal screening test... then the kids were asked to go to earlier (... hmmm must be afternoon session for the p3).. for extra on maths and english... can't remember how many days a week... definitely each session was for an hour or so.
One of her acquaintances asked her ... \"do you know where to get Joe Cameron books?\" She thought it was storybooks... later she found out that Rosyth also did IQ paper with the kids. Apparently she went to several bookshops and specialised bookshops just looking for Joe cameron IQ books.... don't know whether it works but looking at the nbr .. probably... also this friend sends child to in-house vendor for the math olympiad training by RECMEL ... went in before p3... don't know how she did it. Both boys are in GEP. Both children were also at Learning Lab for gifted stream EL / Math / Science... in p6 year they were pulled out after Term 1... else Learning Lab will list child's name on the board after PSLE results. My friend was also told that Success Learning Centre, next to Rosyth, also have gifted stream English... and these two boys are still there. They have been there since 2005.
If you have friends in Rosyth, perhaps they can tell you more... -
2centsworthy,
my rosyth friend told me the same thing. selected kids from her kid’s class were singled out to go for training before GEP selection. -
My neighbour girl is in p3 this year at NYPS… she didn’t get in… she asked my son what’s the paper all abt in Round 2… so my son just briefly told her. If NYPS or she sends child for training then why bother to ask, right? ACS - Barker & Junior - don’t think so… have a friend in Junior… the elder boy didn’t get in but the younger boy now in p4 got in. So don’t think ACS train. But I heard from Nan Hua friend that last year batch Nan Hua hired special teacher to give creative writing on weekly basis… teaching them vocabulary… phrases… and do weekly writing. Also the teacher got the kids to buy Terry Chew’s math olympiad books. Last year the children for the first 6 months did specially prepared maths and english worksheets… tons of homework… only for the top 2 classes. 13 got into GEP. this year heard they ask them to buy the Terry Chew book but they did not mark the books or go through in class. Heard ONLY 11 got in. I can only guess that all the work… perhaps did not yield the results… or maybe got the wrong type of worksheets… ha.ha.ha… got to learn from Rosyth eh?
AND another story from a friend from Tao Nan… she said that they heard from Tao Nan parents that those kids who went for Round 2 were asked to remember one question each. after they come out from the rounds, they were asked to tell the teacher the question (nbr pre-assigned) assigned to them. And they compiled it and process. My Rosyth friend also said the same… so… ???
My friend went with a potential customer of DOCTOR PEH ASSOCIATES to check out the place… she said wow… so impressive… Allen Peh apparently showed them several K1 / K2 kids IQ test results… before and after… AND they were there since K1… some only go in at P3 Round 2. He used to charge $2000+ for 10 hrs… My friend asked … any from NYPS (yes) … any from Nan Hua (the answer was no), any from Catholic High (yes… Gabriel Wong… last year top 2 national with score of 285). He did not show them anything else but said that that potential customer has to bring child for assessment. Apparently the potential customer went… given some general ability test… apparently he will accept the child if child has above 90 for maths… and he only trains those he thinks can make it. … maybe also good else parents throw money… the rich ones might blame him and spoil his name. Apparently high numbers got in. My friend said the potential customer said… she did not want to go… well I don’t know whether they went or not … whether successful or not.
Early this year… a friend called me and asked me to help her get her son into GEP… so I told the above story. Her story is kind of sad… her father in law is the one who wants it… apparently he is very rich and is very fed up that none of his grandchildren are in GEP and this youngest grandson HAS to GET INTO GEP! She was sending to DOCTOR PEH… but she did not call me to tell me whether son got in or not… aiyah… what a waste… else I will know how much she pays… whether effective or not… then I will share with all of you. If she calls me… I will share, ya?
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