Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition

[janet88]

Give me copyright. Dont cut and paste...in case it is out of context and I get :spank: :rotflmao:


I do not believe in IP. Study for 6 long years and no guarantee of A level cert...if using the normal route, there is O level. Can you imagine after 6 years doing IP, at the age of 18, nothing except PSLE :faint:

As for DSA, I see a real case of this girl who got into sec using choir. Her school is so much further away from home, longer hours and now have to spend hours rehearsing to go for competitions here as well as overseas. What for?

[sandunes]

Sorry u are offended. I only quote the post which I agreed with; so as to avoid misunderstanding. I guess it backfired.

[jtoh]

IP isn’t for everyone. If the parent and child doesn’t think IP is suitable for them, don’t choose it. That’s why the majority of schools are still offering the O level option, even the newer IP schools. BUT the IP route is suitable for some students. So it is relevant.

[optimistforum]

I agree. Having O-Levels is a better option to IP.


All this talk of O'Levels makes me nostalgic; I sat them 30 years ago - when they were still hard.

On a lighter note, England's educational reforms (across the board) are moving along at a breathtaking pace. With the reinstatement of the Gold Standrd A Levels of old, moving to IGCSE, and then to O'Levels - with these aligned to our cultural way of working - I can see our education back to its best within ten years. This will of course create a demand for more private tuition.

I too will soon be involved in the review of the National Curriculum.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/schools/back-to-basics-will-goves-national-curriculum-overhaul-prepare-children-for-the-future-7848765.html

[Melodies]

Hi optimistforum,


Are you currently working in MOE? Just wonder why you will soon be involved in the review of the National Curriculum.

Why you can see our education back to its best within ten years ( I think you are referring to going back to O level route?) If this is the case, why you think this will create a demand for more private tuition? I don't recall we have so many tuition centres during my time and there were not many pupils who attended tuition during my time. Could you clarify more?
TIA!

optimistforum:

I too will soon be involved in the review of the National Curriculum.

[Imami]

jtoh:

IP isn't for everyone. If the parent and child doesn't think IP is suitable for them, don't choose it. That's why the majority of schools are still offering the O level option, even the newer IP schools. BUT the IP route is suitable for some students. So it is relevant.

But how would parents know if IP is/is not suitable for their children?

My child is still very young, so I don't really know about IP although my niece and nephew (a pair of twins) are IP students.

[jtoh]

Melodies:

Hi optimistforum,


Are you currently working in MOE? Just wonder why you will soon be involved in the review of the National Curriculum.

Why you can see our education back to its best within ten years ( I think you are referring to going back to O level route?) If this is the case, why you think this will create a demand for more private tuition? I don't recall we have so many tuition centres during my time and there were not many pupils who attended tuition during my time. Could you clarify more?
TIA!

optimistforum:

I too will soon be involved in the review of the National Curriculum.

Optimistforum isn't from Singapore. She might be referring to her home country.

[Melodies]

Agree! you will never know if you don't try. If your kids score well > 260 for PLSE, you will think they are OK for IP, right?


Don't forget that you need to be at least 250 for IP school admission!

I know a real case of 1 pupil who scored >265 for PLSE and got into RI for IP route. However, he struggled to cope in RI and just managed to get average result for A level.

Imami:

But how would parents know if IP is/is not suitable for their children?

My child is still very young, so I don't really know about IP although my niece and nephew (a pair of twins) are IP students.

[Melodies]

Hi jtoh,


Thanks for letting me know this.

You mentioned about IP is suitable for some students but not for others.
Could you share with us IP is exactly suitable for which type of students?
How relevant is this IP to this type of student?

The pupil who scored > 265 is a very bright kid, independent and has never attended any tuition but still can't excel in IP. I don't know what type of student can excel in IP school then.

jtoh:

Optimistforum isn't from Singapore. She might be referring to her home country.

[Imami]

Melodies:

Agree! you will never know if you don't try. If your kids score well > 260 for PLSE, you will think they are OK for IP, right?


Don't forget that you need to be at least 250 for IP school admission!

I know a real case of 1 pupil who scored >265 for PLSE and got into RI for IP route. However, he struggled to cope in RI and just managed to get average result for A level.

Imami:

But how would parents know if IP is/is not suitable for their children?

My child is still very young, so I don't really know about IP although my niece and nephew (a pair of twins) are IP students.

My niece scored 245 for her psle and nephew scored 254. They are now in \"sec 4\" ( dunno how the levels are described in ip schools but they are supposed to be in their 4th yr in that school). The boy is among the top 10% of the school's cohort. Was selected to participate in some programme supposedly for the best science students in sg. The girl, maybe not that good, but is a councillor in school. The way the parents said it, it's like 'no good buay sai be councillor' so I supposed she is also good?