Logo
    • Education
      • Pre-School
      • Primary Schools Directory
      • Primary Schools Articles
      • P1 Registration
      • DSA
      • PSLE
      • Secondary
      • Tertiary
      • Special Needs
    • Lifestyle
      • Well-being
    • Activities
      • Events
    • Enrichment & Services
      • Find A Service Provider
      • Enrichment Articles
      • Enrichment Services
      • Tuition Centre/Private Tutor
      • Infant Care/ Childcare / Student Care Centre
      • Kindergarten/Preschool
      • Private Institutions and International Schools
      • Special Needs
      • Indoor & Outdoor Playgrounds
      • Paediatrics
      • Neonatal Care
    • Forum
    • ASKQ
    • Register
    • Login

    Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Recess Time
    774 Posts 63 Posters 177.9k Views 1 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • J Offline
      jtoh
      last edited by

      verykiasu2010:
      i think people who has no knowledge of the IP content and system should not make sweeping statements as if it is gospel truth. that is very misleading and unhelpful to other readers who may mistake it to be the norm

      I agree.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • I Offline
        Intermezzo
        last edited by

        verykiasu2010:
        optimistforum:

        I guess we all spend a lot of time tutoring or kids at home. I certainly do.


        I am shocked at one thing though. I get the feeling, frm recent posts, that Singapore educaton success is mostly attributable to out of school tutoring rather than the perceived quality of your schools. Am I right? I thought your schools were world-class.

        you have heard of the \"silent majority\" and hence what you hear is from the minority

        of course there will people who will say they are too busy to complain about the education system in Singapore

        by the way, we are a nation of complaint kings/queens

        people tend to lump together \"tuition\" and \"enrichment\" which are by definition different.

        some parents send their kids to tuition for fear of failing a subject, some are doing so in order to ensure the kids continue to score way ahead of the cohort ..... which to many people may not be necessary to have tuition at all

        some parents want their kids to score among the top so that they can enter the perceived top / elite secondary schools to enhance chances of post-secondary scholarship, networking, and perhaps from among them will be one's life partner, and being in top school will enhance the chance to enter top uni around the world

        it is a rat race, but not a compulsion to join the race

        by and large the schools are very okay compared with public schools in UK or US

        :goodpost: :goodpost:

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • I Offline
          Intermezzo
          last edited by

          verykiasu2010:
          blessed777:

          http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/things-consider-sending-child-tuition-classes-102823408.html


          Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition

          By Yahoo! Singapore | SingaporeScene – Wed, Jun 13, 2012



          By Daniel Wong

          Singapore is a tuition nation.

          Previous reports from the Department of Statistics show that households spent $820 million a year on both centre and home-based private tuition.

          In addition, the number of tuition centres has increased five times over the past decade. There are now more than 500 centres in Singapore.

          In comparison, there are fewer than 400 primary and secondary schools in total.

          Through my work as an education excellence coach and speaker, I've had the privilege of speaking to and working with thousands of students. Through these interactions, I estimate (estimate only, not a scientifically derived number) that more than 90% of students attend some form of tuition classes.

          Students continually complain about their huge struggle to complete their school and tuition homework, participate actively in their co-curricular activities, and lead a somewhat balanced life.

          Most students tell me that they don't get more than 5 or 6 hours of sleep every night because there's just so much they have to do!

          Clearly, there's something wrong with this picture.
          or the picture is painted wrongly ??
          In this article, I'll share my observations about how our obsession with tuition reveals deeper issues we face as a society—issues that go far beyond the pursuit of academic success.

          The fear of failure starts with parents(not because the schools are no good nor because the schools don't teach as some parents like to over-generalise)

          Parents send their children for tuition classes because they fear their children getting left behind(not because they are stupid). That's a reasonable fear, because it seems like every other student attends classes outside of school.

          But the bigger fear that parents have is the fear of failure, not just for their children, but for themselves, too. (nothing to do with education system, everything to do with parents' attitude and mindset)

          It's difficult to measure your performance as a parent, so parents often subconsciously gauge their success by how their children are doing in school.

          Your child is a straight-A student? Then you must be doing a wonderful job!

          Your child is struggling academically? Then you're failing as a parent.

          Few parents verbalize it, but these thoughts are at the core of their decision to send their children for tuition classes. At the end of the day, no parent wants to feel like a failure. -- again it is parents, not school nor the system

          What parents really want for their children

          There are other implications, too. Parents' fear of failure gets passed on to their children, who grow up thinking that the best path is the one that's free from failure, risk and disappointment.

          But is that really the best path? No, that's merely the good path, yet it's also the one that parents unintentionally push their children to pursue. A lot of the time, the best path is the one that's full of uncertainty and adversity.

          That's why it's generally incorrect to say that parents want what's best for their children, because they usually only want what's good.

          Be curious, not competitive

          Moreover, parents who are fixated on their children's academic performance instill a spirit of competition in their children. In today's Information Age, however, what's needed in order to excel is a spirit of curiosity, rather than a spirit of competition.

          There's an incredible amount of information available on the internet, which means that if you want to become knowledgeable in some field, you probably could. It just requires that you have enough genuine curiosity to compel you to look up the information online.

          If students are caught up trying to compete with their peers and outperform them, it's difficult to cultivate a real love for learning and discovery—the things that form the basis of a meaningful education and of long-term success in the Information Age.

          Success is more about will than skill (sure or not ? no skill with will power means that over time, the necessary skill is acquired, or acquired by spending a inordinate amount of time on it....sure, eventually succeed, with skill!)

          Furthermore, if students feel like they're being forced to improve academically, there's a limit to how successful they can become. To achieve success—I'll go one step further and use the word \"greatness\"—in any field, you need to make a conscious decision to be great.

          After all, no great pianist, athlete, engineer, doctor, mechanic, nurse or entrepreneur became that way without intentionally choosing the path of excellence.

          You can't force anyone to become great. It's possible to force someone to become mediocre or even good, but greatness requires commitment.

          If parents make their children go for tuition classes without also empowering them to take full responsibility for their own education, it's impossible for the children to become great students.

          At the heart of it, greatness is much more a matter of will than it is of skill. Before we teach our students the skill of studying more effectively and of doing better on exams, we need to encourage them to make a deliberate choice about their education, their future and their life.

          Tuition isn't a bad thing

          Just to be clear, on its own, tuition isn't a horrible thing. I have no doubt that tuition classes can help children to become more disciplined, knowledgeable, hardworking and determined.

          Nevertheless, if it's not done with the correct mindset, sending children for tuition classes can be dangerous.

          It's possible that we're currently creating a generation of sleep-deprived, overworked, unfulfilled, and unhappy students. I fear that this generation of unhappy students is going to become a generation of unhappy workers and, later on, a generation of unhappy parents. so simplistic !

          This is a problem we cannot ignore.

          So whether you, as a parent, decide to send your children for tuition classes or not, I urge you to make that decision with the right perspective. Make sure your children understand that it's more important to finish well than it is to finish first.

          The future of our country depends on it.

          Daniel Wong is the author of \"The Happy Student: 5 Steps to Academic Fulfillment and Success\". He is also an education excellence coach and speaker. He writes regularly about topics related to education, career and personal development at Living Large.

          yes, the conclusion is :- parents' mindset, not that the schools are all so hopeless, not that all the teachers don't teach, not that all the schools are testing beyond what was taught ....... it is all in the mindset of parents who cannot accept when their kids score lower than the peers. it is really a mindset problem of the parents, too small minded that they cannot accept the fact their kids' scores is just 0.000000001 lower than the next guy in t-score

          Bravo ~

          i think i just joined the vks2010 fan club... 😃

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • J Offline
            jtoh
            last edited by

            hokkiengirl:


            Speaking from personal experience interacting with IP students, those who can survive and do well in IP need to be self-motivated to study and have the discipline to do the necessary work. I believe that the IP schools generally offer very good programmes. However, they do expect the students to do a fair bit of independent study and THINKING. Tests are mostly internal, so the student can actually cruise along in a false state of complacency even if they don't do well, as they will just move on to the next level.
            Even though IP students do not sit for the O levels it doesn't mean that their internal exams are not rigorous. And if the students do badly, they will be counseled and retained if necessary. If a student consistently scores a GPA of <3.0 and still thinks that he will do well at A levels without additional effort and continues to cruise along, then he and his parents have some waking up to do.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • C Offline
              Chenonceau
              last edited by

              jtoh:

              Even though IP students do not sit for the O levels it doesn't mean that their internal exams are not rigorous. And if the students do badly, they will be counseled and retained if necessary. If a student consistently scores a GPA of <3.0 and still thinks that he will do well at A levels without additional effort and continues to cruise along, then he and his parents have some waking up to do.
              This is true.

              In my experience, students who can't keep up are asked to leave the school and join a school with 'O' levels. This could be why at least one of the IP schools is thinking of starting 'O' level classes too... so that such students don't have to go through the trauma of expulsion. The IP exams also tend to be more difficult for each age group.

              This said, I don't think hokkiengirl said anything about the exams being less rigorous... and I do buy hokkiengirl's point on independent learning and self-motivation. I've seen how kids with 26+ t-scores just fall behind because their t-scores came from over-tuition and over-pressure... and others will lower t-scores that just power ahead because they find the learning so fun. They wanted to learn.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • J Offline
                jtoh
                last edited by

                Chenonceau:
                jtoh:


                Even though IP students do not sit for the O levels it doesn't mean that their internal exams are not rigorous. And if the students do badly, they will be counseled and retained if necessary. If a student consistently scores a GPA of <3.0 and still thinks that he will do well at A levels without additional effort and continues to cruise along, then he and his parents have some waking up to do.

                This is true.

                In my experience, students who can't keep up are asked to leave the school and join a school with 'O' levels. This could be why at least one of the IP schools is thinking of starting 'O' level classes too... so that such students don't have to go through the trauma of expulsion. The IP exams also tend to be more difficult for each age group.

                This said, I don't think hokkiengirl said anything about the exams being less rigorous.

                I know hokkiengirl didn't say IP exams were less rigorous. I wanted to point it out in case there are readers who have the impression that IP exams are walks in the park compared to the O levels.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • C Offline
                  Chenonceau
                  last edited by

                  jtoh:
                  Chenonceau:

                  [quote=\"jtoh\"]
                  Even though IP students do not sit for the O levels it doesn't mean that their internal exams are not rigorous. And if the students do badly, they will be counseled and retained if necessary. If a student consistently scores a GPA of <3.0 and still thinks that he will do well at A levels without additional effort and continues to cruise along, then he and his parents have some waking up to do.

                  This is true.

                  In my experience, students who can't keep up are asked to leave the school and join a school with 'O' levels. This could be why at least one of the IP schools is thinking of starting 'O' level classes too... so that such students don't have to go through the trauma of expulsion. The IP exams also tend to be more difficult for each age group.

                  This said, I don't think hokkiengirl said anything about the exams being less rigorous.

                  I know hokkiengirl didn't say IP exams were less rigorous. I wanted to point it out in case there are readers who have the impression that IP exams are walks in the park compared to the O levels.[/quote]Point taken... though I think this seems unlikely because of the reputation IP has... and the track record of stellar results at 'A' levels. But yeah... it bears the clarification just in case.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • C Offline
                    Chenonceau
                    last edited by

                    Intermezzo:
                    verykiasu2010:


                    yes, the conclusion is :- parents' mindset, not that the schools are all so hopeless, not that all the teachers don't teach, not that all the schools are testing beyond what was taught ....... it is all in the mindset of parents who cannot accept when their kids score lower than the peers. it is really a mindset problem of the parents, too small minded that they cannot accept the fact their kids' scores is just 0.000000001 lower than the next guy in t-score

                    Bravo ~

                    i think i just joined the vks2010 fan club... 😃

                    In my view, the conclusion needs a bit more balance.

                    It isn't just the parents' mindset, but that the schools are some/many so hopeless, that some/many the teachers don't teach, that some/many the schools are testing beyond what was taught .......

                    But even if SOME teach badly... it is something to be fixed. You would accept that SOME of your Ichiban Sushi is not fresh?

                    People who have not had experience with schools that give poor quality education in Singapore should not make sweeping statements about how good the whole system and state that...
                    verykiasu2010:
                    all in the mindset of parents who ... too small minded that they cannot accept the fact their kids' scores is just 0.000000001 lower than the next guy in t-score...


                    I've had experience with both sides of the coin, and find these 2 posts enlightening (and more balanced)...

                    http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.sg/2012/06/education-stress-whose-fault.html

                    http://8percentpa.blogspot.sg/search/label/Education

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • M Offline
                      Melodies
                      last edited by

                      Hi Optimistforum,


                      I am referring to the 'English Language and Intelligence books from the UK, 50s and 60s'. Where can I get those books?

                      What are the Singaporean assessment books that you find them good ad useful? Care to share?

                      TIA.

                      optimistforum:
                      Hi Melodies

                      By books, I meant current Singaporean assessment books. Also, English Language and Intelligence books from the UK, 50s and 60s.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • M Offline
                        Melodies
                        last edited by

                        I beg to differ. In the very first place. All those IP schools have already accepted the cream of the top Singapore students. (I dare to say all top SG students are in IP). Of course, those bright and discipline students will do well no matter where you threw them in. There are those that are less discipline but they are bright, they may just cruise and move on to the next level, hence they are not prepared for A level.

                        verykiasu2010:
                        Chenonceau:

                        I don't think hokkiengirl meant to say that IP is useless. She did qualify that it is a path that works well for independent and self-motivated learners... and then she qualified that... \"Tests are mostly internal, so the student can actually cruise along in a false state of complacency even if they don't do well, as they will just move on to the next level. That is very dangerous, as it means that they are not really prepared for anything at all.\"

                        that is a very misleading statement. that is why I asked if they are so \"useless\" why then the IP graduates got most of the scholarships and got the most distinctions in H2 and H3 subjects, if the student can actually cruise along in a false state of complacency even if they don't do well, as they will just move on to the next level.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0

                        Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                        Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                        With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                        Register Login
                        • 1
                        • 2
                        • 6
                        • 7
                        • 8
                        • 9
                        • 10
                        • 77
                        • 78
                        • 8 / 78
                        • First post
                          Last post



                        Online Users

                        Statistics

                        4

                        Online

                        210.6k

                        Users

                        34.2k

                        Topics

                        1.8m

                        Posts
                        Recent Topics
                        New to the KiasuParents forum? Tips and Tricks!
                        How do you maintain your relationship with your spouse?
                        Budgeting for tougher times ahead. What's yours?
                        SkillsFuture + anything related to upskilling/learning something new!
                        How much do you spend on the kids' tuition/enrichments?
                        DSA 2026
                        PSLE Discussions and Strategies

                          About Us Contact Us forum Terms of Service Privacy Policy