Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition
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verykiasu2010:
Yup... constraints... constraints... constraints. I wonder what LKY would have done if all he saw were constraints. I think \"condemn\" is too strong a word... just as \"hopeless\" is too strong a word...a lot of time, we only look at the problem and issue at our local / micro level whereas those who make the decision are looking at bigger / overall picture and they have only a set number of parameters that could be adjusted, and have been adjusting whatever that could be adjusted.
when one parameter is adjusted, it satisfies one group but upset another group
no one adjustment or decision can please everyone. be it corporate management or government. such is nature of politics - when it involves people
we can gripe / complain / criticise / condemn for all we want, but there are always constraints
if we were in their shoes, then we would appreciate the constraints they faced from many fronts in the business of government, not for the lack of will nor money.
There are very specific things wrong...
(1) inconsistent quality across schools
(2) lousy textbooks (some schools only teach from textbooks)
(3) lack of clarity into how much tuition plays a part in student performance (just collect the data and gain visibility... are there constraints there too?) -
D*** scary VKS2010
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Much nicer VKS2010
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The black bear very cute.......... :hugs:
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Chenonceau:
:rotflmao: :stompfeet:D*** scary VKS2010
Much nicer VKS2010
:siam:
:rotflmao: :stompfeet: :faint:
for text books, it is really a school decision
\"my pals are here\" is hopeless compared with \"iScience\" series
as for CL and HCL, the person involved with the syllabus says that everything the exam papers cover is in the textbook. -
Chenonceau:
from MOE point of view, why would they want to be involved in tuition survey ? will parents tell the truth ? you will, but how about the other 99 ? mind you, some parents will undermine the survey by providing fictitious data hoping to skew the result to what they want to see.
(3) lack of clarity into how much tuition plays a part in student performance (just collect the data and gain visibility... are there constraints there too?) -
verykiasu2010:
There are ways to deal with biases... some are statistical... others are built into the intrument. People well-versed in social science research have a basket of strategies for this. There are people with this expertise in MOE. I know that because I was told. It's not an insurmountable constraint. As long as there is no data, then there is no clarity... and then people can say 90%... and then a bear will get mad.
from MOE point of view, why would they want to be involved in tuition survey ? will parents tell the truth ? you will, but how about the other 99 ? mind you, some parents will undermine the survey by providing fictitious data hoping to skew the result to what they want to see.Chenonceau:
(3) lack of clarity into how much tuition plays a part in student performance (just collect the data and gain visibility... are there constraints there too?) -
Chenonceau:
There are ways to deal with biases... some are statistical... others are built into the intrument. People well-versed in social science research have a basket of strategies for this. It's not an insurmountable constraint. As long as there is no data, then there is no clarity... and then people can say 90%... and then a bear will get mad.[/quote]yup, but in the first place, why would MOE want to be involved with survey study in out-of-school tuition ? wait for the next enlightened minister lah ....
from MOE point of view, why would they want to be involved in tuition survey ? will parents tell the truth ? you will, but how about the other 99 ? mind you, some parents will undermine the survey by providing fictitious data hoping to skew the result to what they want to see.verykiasu2010:
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(3) lack of clarity into how much tuition plays a part in student performance (just collect the data and gain visibility... are there constraints there too?) -
Trying to picture how will it be like without PSLE......to have streaming to be done at 16yo.
Group 1 : kiasu and educated and know-how-to-teach parents
- will still be busy enriching their children.....cannot relax, must be on your toes, cannot be lazy/bochup, must do your best. With more time now, let's accelerate!!! Must make sure can cover everything.
Group 2 : bo-chup and clueless parents
- with no timeline (or at least much later) will be more relax. Since school result is good (no difficult paper), no need tuition lah. Also no idea how the child is doing in school or how prepared is the child for the BIG streaming at 16.
Group 3 : somewhat kiasu but may not know what to do parents
- will start wondering where their kids stand. How to find out? What if the child end up bottom at 16yo? How to make sure they get to good schools when time comes? Start hearing from grapevine the rich & smart are having enrichment, go for IQ test, able to get hold of good resources. Then start enrolling into enrichments to make sure their kids are not left behind.
Eeerrrr....picture still look similar to me except group 2 will really really fall behind now. :scared: -
verykiasu2010:
Waiting. Waiting. Waiting.
yup, but in the first place, why would MOE want to be involved with survey study in out-of-school tuition ? wait for the next enlightened minister lah ....
Meanwhile... I speak up when I can, and many others do too lor... apologies if it offends you and your sense of contentedness lor... -
BeContented:
No one said to take away the PSLE. At least, I did not. I just paraphrased the logical conclusion of the Ken Robinson video earlier. I just want better textbooks... better consistency amongst schools... better teaching.Trying to picture how will it be like without PSLE......to have streaming to be done at 16yo.
Group 1 : kiasu and educated and know-how-to-teach parents
- will still be busy enriching their children.....cannot relax, must be on your toes, cannot be lazy/bochup, must do your best. With more time now, let's accelerate!!! Must make sure can cover everything.
Group 2 : bo-chup and clueless parents
- with no timeline (or at least much later) will be more relax. Since school result is good (no difficult paper), no need tuition lah. Also no idea how the child is doing in school or how prepared is the child for the BIG streaming at 16.
Group 3 : somewhat kiasu but may not know what to do parents
- will start wondering where their kids stand. How to find out? What if the child end up bottom at 16yo? How to make sure they get to good schools when time comes? Start hearing from grapevine the rich & smart are having enrichment, go for IQ test, able to get hold of good resources. Then start enrolling into enrichments to make sure their kids are not left behind.
Eeerrrr....picture still look similar to me except group 2 will really really fall behind now. :scared:
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